ICE-Raver 10 Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) I haven't played Arma 2 since the 1.05 patch came out but tonight I decided to dust it off. Last time I played the game I was getting Arma mark scores between 7000-8000 and now I can't even load the menu hardly. Just on the menu screen I get like 2 fps and it stutters constantly. I ran the new benchmarks and got 25fps on the first and 20 fps on the second which seems way off base compared to arma mark. Then when you go back to the loading screen everything is almost frozen. Anyway, I don't know what's going on and tbh I don't feel like spending months trying to figure it out like I did when arma 2 first came out. If anyone has suggestions let me know. PS: My system is exactly the same as it was last time I played. All I did was install the patch. Edited February 9, 2010 by W0lle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex72 1 Posted February 9, 2010 PS: My system is exactly the same as it was last time I played. All I did was install the patch. So we need to search for posts youve made to find it? Thanks. Anyway... I have better performance with 1.05 and so does those i know. That should be since perfomance was a thing that was updated in that patch. I would check if there is anything else doing this to your game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted February 9, 2010 My guess is that it's one of three things. Either something went wrong with the patch (corrupt patch) Or you still had Arma installed, or uninstalled but didn't delete your old directory before reinstalling and some files are still sitting there that are corrupting your install (mods, readonly files, etc) Or your arma2.cfg file is read only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ICE-Raver 10 Posted February 9, 2010 So we need to search for posts youve made to find it? Thanks.Anyway... I have better performance with 1.05 and so does those i know. That should be since perfomance was a thing that was updated in that patch. I would check if there is anything else doing this to your game. No, my point was only that I haven't changed anything hardware wise and I am still running the same OS. Hardware: i7920 @ 3.8, 6 gig ddr3 1600, x58 mobo, dual gtx 280's and W7 64. My arma 2 is a steam app. I found the patch on the thread in the general forums and downloaded the torrents 1&2 extracted and installed. Then there was a hotfix for some mission that I downloaded as well. My guess is that something went wrong and I just need to completely uninstall and start again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) ok i'm getting quite huge spike in these reports Symptoms: ARMA 2 1.05 after start fails to work either instantly or will CTD (crash to desktop) out of menu before background animation So far tracked down to these related details: 1. STEAM ARMA 2 with 1.04 2. manual update to 1.05 (+ hotfix doesn't matter) 3. update 1.05 to latest beta (again doesn't matter) 4. everyone with Windows 7 32&64bit 5. so evidently any GPU model / brand 6. running arma2.exe w/o STEAM (doesnt matter) --- Questions: ICE-Raver may i ask what driver build You have and when You installed latest drivers ? since when this is happening ? (ideally exact date) and if 1.05 worked once or never at all? also do You have installed KB977074 (Windows 7 reliability update from approx week ago ?) tried start game in windowed mode not just fullscreen ? (arma2.exe -window) tried start game with -winxp commandline switch ? (arma2.exe -winxp) Edited February 10, 2010 by Dwarden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted February 9, 2010 Also, did you get any errors during the installation? I initially downloaded a torrent of the 1.05 patch and it corrupted my install, so I downloaded a non-torrent version, verified integrity of local cache in steam, and installed the next patch. It had errors when I installed it so I installed the same patch again and it changed some other files (must have partially aborted the install automatically) and showed some Xdelta errors for the other files that basically state that those files don't need patching, installed a 3rd time to be sure but nothing changed the 3rd time and game runs perfect now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ICE-Raver 10 Posted February 10, 2010 ok i'm getting quite huge spike in these reportsSymptoms: ARMA 2 1.05 after start fails to work either instantly or will CTD (crash to desktop) out of menu before background animation So far tracked down to these related details: 1. STEAM ARMA 2 with 1.04 2. manual update to 1.05 (+ hotfix doesn't matter) 3. update 1.05 to latest beta (again doesn't matter) 4. everyone with Windows 7 64bit (not sure if i ever saw 32bit one) 5. so evidently any GPU model / brand 6. running arma2.exe w/o STEAM (doesnt matter) --- Questions: ICE-Raver may i ask what driver build You have and when You installed latest drivers ? since when this is happening ? (ideally exact date) and if 1.05 worked once or never at all? also do You have installed KB977074 (Windows 7 reliability update from approx week ago ?) tried start game in windowed mode not just fullscreen ? (arma2.exe -window) tried start game with -winxp commandline switch ? (arma2.exe -winxp) I'm using Nvidia 196.21 drivers and I installed them a couple of weeks ago. The problem only started last night. I played the game some as 1.04 last night and everything ran good. Then I installed the patch and the problems began. I don't know about the W7 Reliability update. I don't remember ever installing that. I have not tried windowed mode. I have not tried any switches. ---------- Post added at 06:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:47 PM ---------- Also, did you get any errors during the installation?I initially downloaded a torrent of the 1.05 patch and it corrupted my install, so I downloaded a non-torrent version, verified integrity of local cache in steam, and installed the next patch. It had errors when I installed it so I installed the same patch again and it changed some other files (must have partially aborted the install automatically) and showed some Xdelta errors for the other files that basically state that those files don't need patching, installed a 3rd time to be sure but nothing changed the 3rd time and game runs perfect now. I did get an error but not during the patch install. When I tried to install the hotfix for the mission it basically froze up when I tried to install that. I ended the task with task manager and put the file in Arma 2 directory manually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted February 10, 2010 Try running the 1.05 patch then the hotfix again, on top of the current installation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br@cob 10 Posted February 10, 2010 I had no problems with the 1.05 patch EXCEPT, in the Armory, if you get the "steal the item" challenge, you cannot play it, because as soon as the challenge loads, you get the message "the item has been destroyed". Has anyone else noticed this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ICE-Raver 10 Posted February 10, 2010 Try running the 1.05 patch then the hotfix again, on top of the current installation I completely uninstalled and re-installed. Then i applied only the patch and hopped in game. I really have no idea what is happening but it has something to do with my graphics cards I think. Before I could run this game with everything on very high 1680 x 1050 with good FPS. Now if I turn everything up I get single digit FPS. If I turn everything to normal, with PP off I only get like 35 fps. Just turning shadows up makes my fps go into the teens. In any case, I'm kinda at a loss now. I wish the game still had arma mark so I could run some tests with that to compare against what I used to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted February 17, 2010 i got several people being able fix this type of problem by re-enabling theirs HDMI output Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted February 17, 2010 I completely uninstalled and re-installed. Then i applied only the patch and hopped in game.I really have no idea what is happening but it has something to do with my graphics cards I think. Before I could run this game with everything on very high 1680 x 1050 with good FPS. Now if I turn everything up I get single digit FPS. If I turn everything to normal, with PP off I only get like 35 fps. Just turning shadows up makes my fps go into the teens. In any case, I'm kinda at a loss now. I wish the game still had arma mark so I could run some tests with that to compare against what I used to get. Out of curiosity, do you have any 3rd party graphics based drivers installed? And example would be something like the ATI low level driver installed with ATI Tray Tools (which obviously you don't use with an nVidia card) or iZ3D drivers. I've noticed issues with several games with 3rd party graphics drivers so it may be good to make sure you're not running any thing like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites