Guest Posted March 6, 2002 I say, put on a ghillie suit, get a camera with a long lense and find yourself a nice over-looking hill. Though if you do get found you'll probally end up getting tortured for days in a US army base on Southern Cuba. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nordin dk 0 Posted March 6, 2002 I'm quite sure with the amount of international tension and US involvement overseas, you will be shot right away. Don't push your luck please, we need you to work on OFP2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scooby Posted March 6, 2002 Just ask for permission. Better if you can make some good reasons why you should be allowed to take photos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nordin dk 0 Posted March 6, 2002 Hey Scooby, how come you have -700 something posts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted March 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nordin dk @ Mar. 06 2002,14:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm quite sure with the amount of international tension and US involvement overseas, you will be shot right away. Don't push your luck please, we need you to work on OFP2 <span id='postcolor'> But it is nothing less than a stupid training camp. "Tension these days...", I mean you are probably right about this but how arrogant can the army be to think that they are something special. An embassy yes, museum yes, business towers yes, but not a stupid training camp. What the hell do they got to hide. (it is not area 61 or whatever it is called) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nordin dk 0 Posted March 6, 2002 Well, I don't think they want to give away any kind of information that has not been approved. Even if it is just training, they don't allow strangers to come near their troops, and I understand why. Some lunatic could sneak up on trainees and set off a bomb... This would be very bad for morale, in young americans wanting to join the army. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Mar. 06 2002,05:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Erex @ Mar. 05 2002,23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im too not so young as it looks (in fact im 21 (almost <!--emo& Â so im not "horny" to die on shooting range cause im so stupid i run into live fire exercise :-)<span id='postcolor'> u are younger than i thought.... anyway, yes...you will be careful...but you are talking about US Army....anything..i mean ANYTHING could happen. <span id='postcolor'> Anything does that mean shooting the enemy? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Radish 0 Posted March 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tydium @ Mar. 06 2002,04:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> 4AndyZMTAs in Poland are huge but im talking about "live fire area" Believe me i have this inforamtion form NATO HQ  <span id='postcolor'> I'm not really sure what you mean by live fire area but Rovajärvi life fire shooting area in northern Finland is about 1200 sq.km and it is reported to be the largest in western europe. It is used mainly by the finnish artillery but also other branches of the military uses it. There was an article in the official army magazine. It's in finnish but I'll post the link as my source. http://www.mil.fi/ruotuvaki/12_99/t04.html<span id='postcolor'> Anyone know how big the firing area is for Ft. Sill in Oklahoma? I was stationed at an Air Force base down the road from it, and it seemed to stretch on forever... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted March 6, 2002 eh... i meant that they could screw up and shoot wrong target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted March 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Erex @ Mar. 06 2002,09:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ex-RoNiN Do You know that im OFPN header artist? Look on my tag in upper right corner For me is it in UK really expensive , why dont you get few of your friends and dont come to Czech Republic? Â <span id='postcolor'> Nice MP-5 Yours? CA metal body maybe? At the moment I am still renting guns from the skirmish sites ,but I have my eyes on a P-90 (can you put it into OFP pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee). I might go for one of CA's full metal M-16 "A3"'s though, if they are good quality As for the header- I didn't know it was you I always wondered who did it, but I never bothered asking... I can't travel either at the moment University is expensive enough as it is If I find the money I'll drop you an email though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scooby Posted March 6, 2002 Most of the military training is not secret. There are things that are classified but most of the things you do arent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erex 0 Posted March 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Mar. 06 2002,20:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Nice MP-5 Yours? CA metal body maybe? At the moment I am still renting guns from the skirmish sites ,but I have my eyes on a P-90 (can you put it into OFP pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee). I might go for one of CA's full metal M-16 "A3"'s though, if they are good quality As for the header- I didn't know it was you   I always wondered who did it, but I never bothered asking... I can't travel either at the moment University is expensive enough as it is If I find the money I'll drop you an email though <span id='postcolor'> No thats not my MP5 A4 PDW :-) I have MC-51 cuase as my friends from czech CT unit says: I dont prefer those "gayish" 9mm, i chamber 7,62 x 51 Do you know that lot of wepons used in OFP was from my armory (the famous AKSU-74 Krinkov too  Yes the actual OFPN header(winter) is made by me (same as christmas/newyear header), the other great headers was made by Seventh. I have idea to make HUGE european AS exercise (to train together), but more GI than AS (Hope ou now what i mean , but i want on holiday take trip around europe so theres a chance to meet in UK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted March 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Erex @ Mar. 06 2002,22:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Mar. 06 2002,20:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Nice MP-5 Yours? CA metal body maybe? At the moment I am still renting guns from the skirmish sites ,but I have my eyes on a P-90 (can you put it into OFP pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee). I might go for one of CA's full metal M-16 "A3"'s though, if they are good quality As for the header- I didn't know it was you   I always wondered who did it, but I never bothered asking... I can't travel either at the moment University is expensive enough as it is If I find the money I'll drop you an email though <span id='postcolor'> No thats not my MP5 A4 PDW :-) I have MC-51 cuase as my friends from czech CT unit says: I dont prefer those "gayish" 9mm, i chamber 7,62 x 51 Do you know that lot of wepons used in OFP was from my armory (the famous AKSU-74 Krinkov too  Yes the actual OFPN header(winter) is made by me (same as christmas/newyear header), the other great headers was made by Seventh. I have idea to make HUGE european AS exercise (to train together), but more GI than AS (Hope ou now what i mean , but i want on holiday take trip around europe so theres a chance to meet in UK <span id='postcolor'> Your armoury? Hang on, do you have those guns (MC 51, Ak 74 etc.) as airsoft guns, deactivated ones, or real ones?? As for your idea for a European AS thing, that will be VERY difficult to organize. First of all, people need to be contacted, and that might take a while. Then there has to be some basic type of accomodation provided (even if it is just a large piece of land for some tents). Food and drink need to be organised and sold cheaply. Then there are legal problems of transporting airsoft guns across countries. What do you do if you are in France and want to drive by car? Because airsoft guns are illegal in Germany! Also, keep in mind that there are differences in allowed strength for AEG's in different countries. For instance, in England the legal limit is 1 J, or 328 FPS for automatic rifles. As far as I know, France has a legal limit of something like 450 FPS or something like that! I don't think anyone here would like to fight against such a strong gun...esp. as it will undoubtedly have a much greater range as well. That is a very nice idea pal, but I'm afraid it is very difficult if not impossible to implement But if you come to the UK, you can always hire guns at the skirmish sites, and if you tell them who you are they might even give you some BB's or a beer for free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erex 0 Posted March 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your armoury? Hang on, do you have those guns (MC 51, Ak 74 etc.) as airsoft guns, deactivated ones, or real ones?? <span id='postcolor'> AS guns: AEGs: AUG MILITARY AUG POLICE AKSU-74 AK-47 SIG 550 M16 A1 VN(vietnam) and my most favourite MC-51 AS handguns: (*gas blowback) Glock 17 Berreta 92 FS* HK USP deactivated: Sa Vz. 58 (czech assault rifle) Sa Vz. 58 V (paratroper version with folding stock) Sa Vz. 61 Scorpion PPS 43 (russian WW2 SMG) And I have some real ones too but Im under 21 and thats the age required to hold the guns here in Czceh republic so i gonna shuttupp unitl i got permission to have gun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted March 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Erex @ Mar. 06 2002,22:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your armoury? Hang on, do you have those guns (MC 51, Ak 74 etc.) as airsoft guns, deactivated ones, or real ones?? <span id='postcolor'> AS guns: AEGs: AUG MILITARY AUG POLICE AKSU-74 AK-47 SIG 550 M16 A1 VN(vietnam) and my most favourite MC-51 AS handguns: (*gas blowback) Glock 17 Berreta 92 FS* HK USP deactivated: Sa Vz. 58 (czech assault rifle) Sa Vz. 58 V (paratroper version with folding stock) Sa Vz. 61 Scorpion PPS 43 (russian WW2 SMG) And I have some real ones too but Im under 21 and thats the age required to hold the guns here in Czceh republic so i gonna shuttupp unitl i got permission to have gun <span id='postcolor'> WOW!!! That is MOST impressive !!! If I were you I would also get a P-90 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">AKSU-74<span id='postcolor'> Where did you get this baby from?? I have seen all kinds of AK-47's around, but an AK-74 GBB pistols are fun I'm thinking about buying a Glock 17 or a Colt .45 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And I have some real ones too but Im under 21 and thats the age required to hold the guns here in Czceh republic so i gonna shuttupp unitl i got permission to have gun <span id='postcolor'> LOL!!! Do you know any websites that have information on the Czech rifles? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madmike 0 Posted March 6, 2002 Erex, how did you manage to get a job as a military advisor? my life revovles around anything "green" and after I have served for a short time in the British Army I would love to be an advisor for a game. Please could you answer this, I would love to know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frag Haus Capt Morgan 0 Posted March 7, 2002 Erex here is an Idea haveing participated in many military excercises. Look technicly you guys are now military contractors. So that gives you well not the right. But the possability to contact your military liason and ask him to set something up.They usual have no problem with it. Trust me nothing like them bringing a bus load of military contractors into a satcom vehicle that is this big []. Then they ask you all kinds of questions which you answer in a precise military manner. Then they go back to their labs and make something that is totally screwed up and do not listen to you at all. For example there is one radio system no lie that some grunt figured out that if you bang on it. It realigns the chips inside and works perfectly again. No lie. Then you tell them stuff like this and they shake thier head and go on thier merry way. Thinking you are nuts. But when the manual is updated. Sure enough in troubleshooting section. "BANG ON THE BLAH SYSTEM TO REALINE CHIPS". Any way try contacting your military liason you should have one. Explain what you want to do thier. Well don't say you just want pictures. But you want to view the equipment to see if how it works in real life or some other bs. Lay down some computer mumbo jumbo on top and you are in like flynn. Trust me I talked to a couple of contractors before and the only reason they actually go on some of these trips is to get rides in choppers or other military vehicles. Hope this helps you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erex 0 Posted March 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">madmike Posted on Mar. 07 2002,006 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erex, how did you manage to get a job as a military advisor? my life revovles around anything "green" and after I have served for a short time in the British Army I would love to be an advisor for a game. Please could you answer this, I would love to know <span id='postcolor'> I have found 2 years ago a topic on czech offline chat about that few peoples are reating really cool game I asked which weapns should be include and tehy told me XXYYZZ, i asked why not ABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ They asked me if i could get those weapons So i taky our family car and load it with weapons and come for 1st time to BIS, then i come second time with weposn. Then i was enlisted as tester (i participated already on EU release) Im graduated 2D grphic/DTP So i tried to do some textures, my first task was instumental panel and HUD of Suchoj Su-25 (sukhoi) and textures for Ch-29T (television guided rockets on Suchoj). Then come the Ch-47 (whole instrumnetal panel (i saw the 'Nam era movie about maintance of CH47 1000 times cause i haev no images of HDD)) Now im working on lot of things to DDisk but its classified now so i should wait until its released :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erex 0 Posted March 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Frag Haus Capt Morgan @ Mar. 07 2002,10:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Erex here is an Idea haveing participated in many military excercises. Look technicly you guys are now military contractors. So that gives you well not the right. But the possability to contact your military liason and ask him to set something up.They usual have no problem with it. Trust me nothing like them bringing a bus load of military contractors into a satcom vehicle that is this big []. Â Then they ask you all kinds of questions which you answer in a precise military manner. Â Then they go back to their labs and make something that is totally screwed up and do not listen to you at all. Â For example there is one radio system no lie that some grunt figured out that if you bang on it. It realigns the chips inside and works perfectly again. No lie. Then you tell them stuff like this and they shake thier head and go on thier merry way. Â Thinking you are nuts. But when the manual is updated. Sure enough in troubleshooting section. "BANG ON THE BLAH SYSTEM TO REALINE CHIPS". Any way try contacting your military liason you should have one. Explain what you want to do thier. Well don't say you just want pictures. But you want to view the equipment to see if how it works in real life or some other bs. Lay down some computer mumbo jumbo on top and you are in like flynn. Trust me I talked to a couple of contractors before and the only reason they actually go on some of these trips is to get rides in choppers or other military vehicles. Hope this helps you!<span id='postcolor'> ALMAO :-) txh pal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erex 0 Posted March 10, 2002 IM BACK AND ALIVE! I hopefully survived the mission  But there was few moments, when the fun is over  Like when fully loaded Apache is strafing against me. I was sitting in car and just remembering how big thermalsignature my car does have and how its immpsoible to avoid Hellfire  But overall it was GREAT weekend and i promise you to put some pictures here as soon as possible.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted March 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Erex @ Mar. 10 2002,19:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But there was few moments, when the fun is over  Like when fully loaded Apache is strafing against me. I was sitting in car and just remembering how big thermalsignature my car does have and how its immpsoible to avoid Hellfire  <span id='postcolor'> see, I told you so ANYTHING can happen with US Army. You were lucky this time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 10, 2002 Say, Erex, this may sound a bit ignorant from my side for not knowing, but what's your job in BIS? Are you a modeller, sound developer, scripter, or somethign else I left out? I'm just being curious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 10, 2002 Sound like they're using him as a damage model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 10, 2002 LOL! :) Oh, you'll probably get banned for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 10, 2002 Actually, my plan was to get him so far so he would give us a sneak-preview of the units to expect in OFP: Resistance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites