Rage_Frost 0 Posted February 12, 2002 Hello OFP forum. This is alittle post for the people that run dedicated server's. We are keeping a track record at are forum with player's id's and names that use the unlimted ammo cheat. If you guys tell me your forum page I well post on it with any updates on cheaters we have found using this. Are forum page can be found at http://www.fraghaus.com/index.shtml under the forum for ofp if we all work together on this we can stop it while B.I.S. works it out. Plus if you guys are aware of anyone that you have caught red handed doing this please post it on are forum. Thanks [FHA]Rage_Frost FragHaus OFP admin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRogue 0 Posted February 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just to let you know... If we even thinking your cheating were going to ban you that goes for anyone and everyone Reg's too... we well note the cheat and post your name here with your player id for any other server that wishes to see it i am going to start a new thread here with that starting tonight. Now if B.I.S. fixes this cheat you well be unbanned at that time if yopu feel that you were baned and were not cheating then post it... <span id='postcolor'> If you even "think" someone is cheating, I see the same potential here as with CS. Everyone running around yelling cheater because they are good at the game. Banning just because someone supposidly cheats, pfftt open door for admin abuse of power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage_Frost 0 Posted February 12, 2002 ok smarty pants we ban them as WE see them. have you seen 8 laws fired withing 2 sec's. well we have. maybe you should look into this cheat as for that "thinking" thing we can't get proof on paper, program, ect but when you have two admins watching guys shoot laws like a rifle on full auto what more can I say. if you can say more please say it... and P.S. I fixed that it now says if you get caught cheating you well be banned no more thinking. and for someone to get banned it takes to admins to see it happen not one so that cs remark is out the window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Espectro (DayZ) 0 Posted February 12, 2002 Rellax little fellar... ... Good idea btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoCares 0 Posted February 12, 2002 Have you ever seen the AI cheating??? Last weekend I played the Desert Assault Coop on a finnish ded server (my ping was about 150) and there was this T80 comming along. I shot a RPG at him, what makes him a little angry and he shot 4 rounds of his main gun at me - whithin 2 seconds... Scary!!! And not only I saw it but some others as well. Ban this cheating AI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage_Frost 0 Posted February 12, 2002 roflmao. I dont know what to say about that one. but its a bug always been their. That is funny though im going to have to Quote you on that one at are forum the guys well get a kick out of it heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Espectro (DayZ) 0 Posted February 12, 2002 Ive seen that AI Rapid fire bugs before Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted February 12, 2002 thats from poor desync thats all as for the cheats I have yet to actually see any other then the speed cheat which no one uses I know they say the ammo cheat exsist but have yet to see it post a link of the cheaters here http://pub51.ezboard.com/froughnecksgaminggroupfrm24 and we'll just keep and eye on them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigQEd 0 Posted February 13, 2002 The AI rapid fire bug is non-threatening other than sight and sound. What i mean is that when the Tank multi-fires rounds only 1 is actually being shot. I know this because I have sat right next to them many times and only recieved 1 hit worth of damage. Yeah it looks very MEAN but don't worry the AI isn't gonna kill you quickly... just go about staying calm and shoot them. 9 out of 10 times you should be able to kill the AI in a MP game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5thSFG Drak 0 Posted February 13, 2002 Here's a little story for yea...LOL I am an Admin on FragHaus "the Best Ofp Server on the net" and this nob has the Ball's to use the Ammo cheat one me... Now you say how do I know... well when a BMP2 roll's up on a Grunt and you seen 2 Law's come at you and no reloading by the Grunt...LOL he has it on... And for you who say Lag... Well after I was dead he had the ball's to fire off 2 more....HAHA as I was laying dead I watched him fire away ! no reloading at all.... 4 Law's in 4.5 sec's..LOL let me see you pull that off.... LAG included... P.S. his name was D@yw@lker Id # is on our Forum's And he has been knowen to run cheats on our CS Server... DOH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nopulse 0 Posted February 14, 2002 RN Malboeuf, I have tested the unlimited ammo cheat and the rapid fire cheat out personally in MP to see if it actually works. I heard people saying so and so was launching multiple LAWS/TOWS without running out and reloading so I had to try it out to see if it actually works, and believe me it does The unlimited ammo/rapid fire trainer works in single player and multiplayer If you want me to show you, I could give you a demostration if you would like I can't believe people cheat. It burns me. I mean does it make them feel better about themselves by cheating? BIS should make a script in the next patch that detects a .exe running in the background that edits or alters the game in any way and then have " ...... is a big fat cheater" across the screen for everyone to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted February 14, 2002 rule of thumb never give it to any one, even us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nopulse 0 Posted February 14, 2002 RN Malboeuf Posted on Feb. 14 2002,17:49 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">rule of thumb never give it to any one, even us <span id='postcolor'> What I meant Malboeuf was that if you wanted proof that the cheats work, I could log onto your server and show you. Â I wasn't going to give you the cheats, I was going to demostrate that they actually do work. If anything, I'm trying to thwart people using trainers/cheats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage_Frost 0 Posted February 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RN Malboeuf @ Feb. 14 2002,16:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">rule of thumb never give it to any one, even us<span id='postcolor'> Woo what are you saying. If you had this cheat you would use it, ouch man. I would edit that post if I was you. The way I see it that gives you and your squad a bad name for even posting something like that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRogue 0 Posted February 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Rage_Frost @ Feb. 12 2002,09:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok smarty pants we ban them as WE see them. have you seen 8 laws fired withing 2 sec's. well we have. maybe you should look into this cheat as for that "thinking" thing we can't get proof on paper, program, ect but when you have two admins watching guys shoot laws like a rifle on full auto what more can I say. if you can say more please say it... and P.S. I fixed that it now says if you get caught cheating you well be banned no more thinking. and for someone to get banned it takes to admins to see it happen not one so that cs remark is out the window.<span id='postcolor'> Actually and quite unfortunately I have come to see why there is a huge possibilty for a larger growth of cheaters. Currently I can reproduce any cheat that involves alteration of a unit (unlimited ammo, tracking LAWs, no recoil rifles with no dispersion, invincible units.) I can make M21s that fire heat rounds, satchel charges that cover the entire island. Its all very sad and its such a wide open door. Subtle cheats could be done this way (putting scopes on M16s, increasing a mags ammo slightly, etc.) And do to the current amount of addons and how they work none of this would be detected until in use in game, and the subtle ones probably never detected. I've informed BIS of course how all this is impossible (without the use of an external app) and although I have recieved a somewhat lackluster responce to the issue, they are aware and what is to be done about it is in their hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigQEd 0 Posted February 15, 2002 RedRogue... if you modified the game PBOs in the ADDON directory I would think the game would not operate properly. I mean if you have an ADDON that doesn't match the servers ADDON it will bark and drop you to desktop. I mean it is rather easy to change these things... just like I made an SU25 with Sidewinders as an extra ADDON but I wouldn't think it would work properly in a normal game without the special ADDONs even if you modified the default PBOs. Correct me if you know differently... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted February 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Rage_Frost @ Feb. 14 2002,16:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">rule of thumb never give it to any one, even us<span id='postcolor'> Woo what are you saying. If you had this cheat you would use it, ouch man. I would edit that post if I was you. The way I see it that gives you and your squad a bad name for even posting something like that...<span id='postcolor'> you miss the us part? it was refering to the board, get your head out of your ass your acting dumb again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigQEd 0 Posted February 15, 2002 US as in [RN]? Â So you are saying it isn't just you but your whole Squad that would cheat eh? Because I KNOW you weren't speaking for others on this board. All have shown how against cheating they are. I could get all the cheats available out there but NO WAY IN HELL would I use them. It's gh3y to even consider cheating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRogue 0 Posted February 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BigQEd @ Feb. 15 2002,09:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">RedRogue... if you modified the game PBOs in the ADDON directory I would think the game would not operate properly. I mean if you have an ADDON that doesn't match the servers ADDON it will bark and drop you to desktop. I mean it is rather easy to change these things... just like I made an SU25 with Sidewinders as an extra ADDON but I wouldn't think it would work properly in a normal game without the special ADDONs even if you modified the default PBOs. Correct me if you know differently...<span id='postcolor'> It doesn't involve modifing the .pbo files, I'm not going into detail about how to do it but its relatively simple if you have had any C code experience. Unfortunately it works without the server being affected in the same way also so it can be used in ANY MP game with OFP current setup (Tested this on several pub servers). The changes also are only available to the cheater (i.e. my PK spits Heat rounds where others would fire normal bullets). Frankly I was rather horrified when I found it and realized how easy it was to do, so I went on GSA under a seperate name and started watching a few people getting surreal kill rates. After a few hours almost all of those I was watching where just really good players, but a few where in the "that ain't right" category. I saw one player with no recoil or dispersion on his M-60, and one guy fire multiple laws without reloading. As I've said I've notified BIS and it is entirely up to them what is to be done or not done about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigQEd 0 Posted February 15, 2002 The Multiple Law shots would be the Trainer that is readily available... no surprize there. I know some C... but not sure I can see how this would be done without accessing the Memory (while game is running) or altering the PBO in some fashion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRogue 0 Posted February 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BigQEd @ Feb. 15 2002,19:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Multiple Law shots would be the Trainer that is readily available... no surprize there. I know some C... but not sure I can see how this would be done without accessing the Memory (while game is running) or altering the PBO in some fashion.<span id='postcolor'> Its all really very simple, doing it this way you don't even need the trainer for multiple law shots, hell you can make your laws lockon and track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigQEd 0 Posted February 15, 2002 Hmmm... I can understand that being possible via the PBOs in ADDONs... I mean I have easily modified the Missles on the SU25 to be Air to Air instead of Air to Ground. So you are saying this is possible as a 'cheat' in the Memory or via a file... Not good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5thSFG Drak 0 Posted February 15, 2002 BLAH........ I say.......... BLAAAAH !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigQEd 0 Posted February 15, 2002 If the quite hacker is the only one that knows about it then BIS may not know this is going on. I think we need to bring it to light so that BIS can and will do something about  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRogue 0 Posted February 15, 2002 If I have time I'll make a a screen .mpg demonstration of these cheats in use by me on the FragHaus server (I'll quickly demonstration my M16 firing heat rounds with a scope on it away from everyone else then leave.) I have notified BIS twice about this, from their responces I take it they do not feel this is quite the issue it is. But its their game and their call...... edit: BTW this has absolutely nothing to do with Memory HEX editing while the game is in play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
