WhoCares 0 Posted February 6, 2002 Well, as already discussed in previous threads, the islands in OFP are based upon real island. (You didn't know that? Then check this page of the famousFAQ of the almighty AvonLady ) We also know, that the stars in heaven are drawn like in real world as well (just remember the mission, where you should find the north star to find your way back) Fine so far, but wouldn't it be possible (for a skilled navigator ) to define your (more or less) excact position on earth, given the date, time and position of a specific star? (I've seen Orion with Rigel and Beteigeuze, Cassiopeia, the big dipper, the north star and the moon of course ) The only problem to get the excact position would probably be the elevation of the 'target' and thus the latitude, since I can't remember a weapon where you can get it (maybe the T72/T80s commander or gunner sight???), but at least the longitudinal position should be possible. Has anybody ever tried it? wkr WhoCares Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder 0 Posted February 6, 2002 Your name says it all Just kidding, sounds complicated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted February 6, 2002 I don't think the developers even thought of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoCares 0 Posted February 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just kidding, sounds complicated <span id='postcolor'> Well, it is complicated and requires some math skills and a table with the position of the star at a given date. That's why there is the profession of a navigator... (however, with the editor you can set to a specific date, what would reduce the math effort at least a little) Okay, today there is GPS, but afaik there has to be still a sextant at each capital ship, in case that the electronic fails. And I think each Officer at Sea must be familiar with this kind of navigation. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't think the developers even thought of this.<span id='postcolor'> Maybe, maybe not. But it should be possible to get a position whatever and how precise it is. Maybe they are located in the middle of russia or at the north pole. Maybe they are right where their real counterparts are located (but I doubt, that we would get such a precise position) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted February 6, 2002 They're supposed to be in Central Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Damage Inc @ Feb. 06 2002,15:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't think the developers even thought of this.<span id='postcolor'> To the best of my recollection, they DID think of this. They even thought of the tides, from what I recall. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE BIS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted February 6, 2002 Does your FAQ have any information about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder 0 Posted February 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhoCares @ Feb. 06 2002,13:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just kidding, sounds complicated <span id='postcolor'> Well, it is complicated and requires some math skills and a table with the position of the star at a given date. That's why there is the profession of a navigator...<span id='postcolor'> Well mate, my profession lies with aeronautical engineering not Astronomy or that sort of navigation , although I do find it interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaper 0 Posted February 6, 2002 I'm no expert on celestial navigation, but I've had read a bit about it. I know you can find your latitude (or is it longitude) by measuring the angle between the north star and the horizon. You can do this by using your thumb. Hold it out in front of you and count the number of thumbs between the horizon and the north start. The width of your thumb is 2 degrees, but that won't work sticking your thumb up to the monitor. Thats about all I can remember for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder 0 Posted February 6, 2002 This is the sketch I made when I got lost on my way home hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoCares 0 Posted February 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Intruder @ Feb. 06 2002,17:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well mate, my profession lies with aeronautical engineering :p not Astronomy or that sort of navigation ??? , although I do find it interesting...<span id='postcolor'> Well, mine is electronical engineering :p But if you are so intrested in this stuff: This Tables contain the needed datas for sextant navigation for 2001 - 2009. Unfortunatly they don't help us with OPF, since it's in 1985 :p :p :p Everybody should be familiar with the things on this site :p Germans can also check this link (some interesting equations :) ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F-16_Driver 1 Posted February 6, 2002 There is a island called Malden in the pasific some where Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesia 0 Posted February 6, 2002 Malden is also a village/ town south west of London. But yeah, the islands are SUPPOSED to be in the meditteranean somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panzer Jaeger 0 Posted February 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhoCares @ Feb. 06 2002,13:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Fine so far, but wouldn't it be possible (for a skilled navigator ) to define your (more or less) excact position on earth, given the date, time and position of a specific star? (I've seen Orion with Rigel and Beteigeuze, Cassiopeia, the big dipper, the north star and the moon of course ) The only problem to get the excact position would probably be the elevation of the 'target' and thus the latitude, since I can't remember a weapon where you can get it (maybe the T72/T80s commander or gunner sight???), but at least the longitudinal position should be possible.<span id='postcolor'> OK. The Commander's sight on T-72s (and T-80?) is gunner's sight. The left scale is for targeting with Sub-caliber ammo and right for HE (please correct me if I'm mistaken). Reading's on scales are 100 meter's. So Whether you fire (theoretically) your sub-caliber round to 4000 meter's you have different elevation than HE round. Top of the sight is optical rangefinder, same as in dragunov only vehicles are measured by lines and infantry by dot placing them to horizontal line beneath the scales. Again 8 = 800m... And you have a different aiming point for MG. And different point for laser rangefinder. PHEW!! So much to remember... So they are(?) not degrees. My friend served in T-72's and he said that commander's sight has only targeting reticle. I thought there was something wrong with gunner's sight's in T-72's... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpaceAlex 0 Posted February 6, 2002 I found some interesting pictures and sites about islands in OFP: Malden: You can find all info about that island on this address. All i can tell u is that it lies next to Greece and OFp training island lies right next to him. And desert island is that training island next to Malden. Just without any plants. A few Pictures: Everon: There's not too much to say about this island. It lies next to Croatia and its name is KRK. More info on this site. I'm sure Levkas looks much nicer. Levkas is similar to Malden but Everon is not similar to KRK. Kolgujev: Kolgujev's real name is Tenerife. It lies next to Spain. That island is similar to Kolgujev, only much bigger. One picture of Tenerife: You can find info about Tenerife here: - http://www.tennews.com/ - http://www.tenerife.net/ - http://www.cabtfe.es/ - http://www.tenerifeguide.com/ I think that's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Die Alive 0 Posted February 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpaceAlex @ Feb. 06 2002,14:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Kolgujev: Kolgujev's real name is Tenerife. It lies next to Spain. That island is similar to Kolgujev, only much bigger.<span id='postcolor'> Tenerife is in the Canary Islands, off the coast of Morocco at 28.19N 16.34W -=Die Alive=- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoCares 0 Posted February 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Feb. 08 2002,18:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Tenerife is in the Canary Islands, off the coast of Morocco at 28.19N 16.34W -=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'> If you are now able go in OFP and get the Koordinates for Kolgujev there, then you can be the skipper of my next cruise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
