Idea to disable ALL visual cheats

[CounterForce 0]

hi

At the moment there are a lot of problems with cheats in multiplayer games.

Most of them are visual cheats like colored models, invisible walls and trees etc or leave visible traces on the screen of the cheater.

The admin can't be sure if a player is cheating because he can't see his screen if the cheater doesnot spawn vehicles just before him.

And this is the point what should be changed.

In other games like CounterStrike (Punkbuster and later CheaterLog) this was changed too - at least for some time.

My idea is:

We need a program what is able to take screenshots and send them to a special server in the internet. This must happen without the user knowing the time the screenshot is going to be taken.

For privacy reasons this program must check if OFP is running.

Of course you can't send screenshots in bmp fomat over the internet as this would be too much traffic and affect the online game.

But you usually don't need a resolution of more than 640*480 pixels to see if a cheat was used and you can use a high jpg compression.

Furthermore the files have to be encrypted and information about the player have to be added to aviod fakes.

The server admin must have a program that is able to decrypt the files and create jpg files showing the screenshot and the extra information.

The next problem will be to check if a player playing on a server with this anticheat tool installed uses the anti cheat client.

I'm not sure which information is logged on the OFP server.

The server version of this anti cheat tool needs to find out what players are correctly playing on the server and then check if the anti cheat client is running.

If not, the player should be kicked off the server.

If the client is running, the server tool can send the user a signal what makes the client to take a screenshot and send it to a server (doesn't need to be the server where the game is running)

I think that this idea can be realised but I don't know how.

If it would be possible that some people who have some experience in programing things like that join together, we can do this.

I can help with encryption and deciphering and have webspace what can be used.

If only few of whose who are complaining about cheats want to do something against them we will do it.

There is a fight going on. The cheaters attacked the normal OFP players.

This fight will continue wheater the OFP community fights back or just complains that there is nothing being done.

Come on - Do something against the cheaters.

What have you got to lose?

[benu 1]

This idea has been implemented years ago as part of the functionality of punk buster. Other programs had it too. And it could be circumvented too.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

the Anti cheat team came up with and Idea that modifies OFP Watch, since OFP watch watches over these files all ready,

we have talked about it but since its so late in the game we agreed to wait to see if its even needed for OFP2, certa liked the idea since the program on the file checking is basically done

but rumor has it OFP wont need ofp watch, and as far as file monitoring that may get rid of some basic cheats for OFP 2

now if not - it wont take certa long to modify OFP watch for OFP2 and then add detection coding for ammo hacks ect (based on his spare time)

this would mean clients would need ofp watch to go on most servers and keep OFP watching running just as the do with punk busters

if certa sees this post im sure he'll clue us in on his ideas

[sicilian 0]

@CounterForce

What should this prevent?

It doesn't prevent cheating at all cause you can change your ID and be anonym while any application takes a screen of your ofp.

It can't stop you cheating while playing cause it cannot analyse a picture and react if anything is wrong.

This is only to collect pictures of cheaters which cannot be identified cause of wrong IDs...

We need some to stop and break cheating not for observing regarding to your idea of making screenshots and send them to a server.

@Malboeuf

It's very very sad reading there is something done but is standing in the back. We always needed a tool which can do this. Its a pity not to complete it now. I've talked to certa but he wants to do it when he gots more intention to. What a pity! Really (I know it's always a question of time, too. But therefor I offered him some helping hands...)

[CounterForce 0]

the problem with the ID is not a too big problem.

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=41131

should disable changing of IDs

And now we have screenshots of people who can have ONE ID

and if there is a screenshot with a hack etc. it was the last game this person played on a server.

In the future were are possibilities for blacklists to ban this cheaters from every server.

file checking is not the best idea.

just look at other games:

Whenever a new cheat file is detected there is an other.

and it is much more work to detect a new cheat than to modify an old one.

The cheaters will be back only a few hours after the release of a new anti cheat tool.

We can't make them stop cheating - or only for a very short time.

but we can make them cheating only once

it's just an idea

[Major Fubar 0]

Dejavu?

Please search for an existing cheat thread, and post in that...there really is no point in starting a new thread every time people want to discuss cheats or cheat prevention.