Lumamorod 0 Posted February 19, 2004 I came up with this idea in another thread, looked up briefly on the Unit Editor thread and since i saw no mention of it i'm sharing it. Feel free to shut me up if this has been discussed somewhere else, already. The Army Creator would be a nice moding tool where you could, on a template soldier, select a few features and recreate any unit from any army in the last 50 Â (well, almost any). I am no expert but i know lots of armies share uniform features. With some 20 camo patterns; adjustable colors for regular, non camo, uniform; a dozen helmet models; an import tool for badges and similar stuff. Bang, you can build your average soldier. Then you assign weapons for the diferent classes. Have a equipment (weapons, vehicles) database organized according to country of origin and year. This creates an army than can then be uploaded into the unit section of the Main Editor. PS: after reading back again on the Unit Editor thread, i believe one of the BAS Team elements, Tigershark (?) sugested something similar on page 6 of that thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Impavido 0 Posted February 19, 2004 I like the basic premise of the idea. But the bottom line is that that sounds like a lot of extra work for BIS. And if it means it would make the develpment process significantly longer I dont believe it would be worth it. If you want to dress your soldiers buy some GI Joes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lumamorod 0 Posted February 20, 2004 Its not so much a matter of dressing up soldiers a playing around with uniforms and such. It would be more like a tool to streamline and make accessible what many people end up doing the hard way, and most don't even dare to: modding OFP to represent this or that military force, in order to play a certain historical or geographical scenario of their preference. And although i am not a programmer by any means, i do believe it is not that much work. Its basically a database coupled with a 3D viewer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted February 21, 2004 But then it screws up all our addon making fun Oh and if you think that making enough equipment and textures for these units is "not going to be too hard" try making some stuff yourself, just for one soldier, you'll take that statement back in no time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lumamorod 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Well... i don't want to spoil your fun. But i don't want to depend on your willingness to mod the Portuguese Comandos from the Guinee-Bissau campaign, and the opposing PAIGC forces, using 1950-1970 weaponry. Would you do it for me? Because i dont have the skills or the time.... The reason i say it is not dificult is because a lot of games offer the option to customize skins, or even models, from NASCAR or SWG or NWN, to the upcoming Soldner-Secret Wars, to an extent far beyond whats would be necessary in this case. And you sort of prove my point: it IS hard to do with the present tools. I agree that equipment would be hard to cover completely, but it could be done to a reasonable extent. And there would still be plenty of room for moding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Check out colonial wars, they are doing portugese units i think http://colonialwarmod.no.sapo.pt/news.htm Not sure if its the correct era though. Its more a case of, they are going to have to model all this equipment, then make a new skin for each bit of equipment....sure they could do it, it'd just take alot of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lumamorod 0 Posted February 22, 2004 I knew this mod was around. When i first looked it up it looked stalled. The way things are going, the fact that OFP2 may have and African setting may be of great help. The period can only be right, Portuguese colonial wars come from early 60's to mid 70's. Late fifties if you count India, but that was not really a war. Anyway, that was just an example. A simpler version of tool might work as a viewer/combiner for OFP 3D formats of both soldiers and weapon models, and, as long as they are independent, you could combine them. Badges being loaded independently might be useful. Something like this might let you build your own database of models and skins from the addons that are produced. All i'm looking for is a more modular system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted February 24, 2004 The way I see it is like this. If the addon making tools change as little possible, you should A) be able to use OFP 1 addons with little or no conversions, B) have an extremely quick influx of models soon after release as us guys already know how to use the tools. Start changing this around and we gotta relearn it all again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites