hornile 0 Posted January 18, 2004 Sometimes my OFP (Goty Edition, Patched to 1.95) crashes back to Desktop. (not really crashing, just goes to the desktop, no error message is displayed, game quits). Just happens to OFP, all other games run fine. I suppose it got something to do with the video card (Radeon 9800 SE) as I've read of other problems with ATI's cards here. Sometimes the whole system works stable for 3 hours, sometimes it crashes in the first 5 minutes... I already raised my AGP voltage to 1.6 (or 1.7...anyway 0.1V over normal) and I think it's running more stable at the moment, but I can't guarantee that, as I also changed my sound card (to a Creative Audigy) Anybody got an idea how I can make my system run fine again ? With my old video card (geforce3) everything worked absolutely fine. Fastwrite is disabled, AGP aperture size is 64mb...same issue when changing to 128mb.. Thanks already !!!! System Specs: Athlon 3200 Radeon 9800 SE 1024 mb DDRAM 400 Asus A7N8X-Deluxe Creative Audigy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 18, 2004 Oops, forgot to mention... I even had some "Hard resets" when switching from OFP to desktop.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 18, 2004 Is VPU Recover disabled? Do you have the latest drivers for everything? Especially motherboard bios/agp drivers etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 18, 2004 The newest drivers are installed. I just disabled VPU recover...let's see...until now it works fine....after 5 minutes no problem, have to play it now for some time... Why could VPU recover be a problem ? I thought it was a stability improving feature... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 18, 2004 It lasted for 9 minutes. then I got back to desktop.... Could this also be a memory or power problem ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 18, 2004 Try completely removing your sound card and play for a while see if it makes any difference. VPU recover is supposed to enable you to recover from minor graphical glitches, apparently it's more trouble than it's worth right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 18, 2004 I already tried without removing my sound card. Actually I bought it because I thought the onboard sound was the problem... Next I will replace the RAM, maybe that's the cause because I use mixed RAMs... And if all doesn't help, I'll get back to some NVidia Video Card... Do you know if Radeons are more endangered of having problems with this game than the geforces ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 18, 2004 I've had Radeon 7500, Radeon 9500, Radeon 9600, and now Radeon 9800, all have run Opf very well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whistlepig 0 Posted January 24, 2004 I just switched from a ATI Raedon 9200 128mb to a ATI 9600 XTC 256mb, and ran into the same problem. After much headbanging against anything vertical in my "gaming office", I came accross a rather simple fix. 1st thing, especially with ATI cards, uninstall ALL previous existance of the ati software, reboot, then install the latest software. Then, after trying everything, it was suggested to add "-no map" to the command line for the start up. It works wonderful. No problems as of yet, and the performance, at least to me, has greatly improved! Hope this might help a little. The Whistlepig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 24, 2004 Hi there, thanks, I'm gonna try this one out. (is it "-nomap" or "-no map" ?) I also thought of my power supply being to weak...maybe someone could check this: I got a 350W supply and running a Athlon 2500, Radeon 9800SE, 1 CDR, 1 DVD, 1 Floppy, 1 HDD, 1 Soundcard. Do you think 350W is enough or would upgrading to 550W solve my problem ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pitufo 0 Posted January 24, 2004 I had/have the same problem and I don't know if it's my imagination or not (but I really can't think of an instance when it's crashed using this method) but I tried taking the side panels off my CPU and pointing a fan at it whenever I play games with lots of addons active. It seems to help, but then again it could be the new 1.95 patch.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 24, 2004 (is it "-nomap" or "-no map" ?) It's -nomap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 25, 2004 Thanks, but it didn't help....still gets back to desktop....I'm trying to do a Windows clean install now (or at least remove all updates...)...maybe that helps... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OutbreakeR 0 Posted January 25, 2004 Oh yes.. I have the same problem. It just throws me back to desktop without any error messages.. sometimes it freezes and starts to loop the last sound that was played. I'll try to remove the soundcard and see if it works, I'll get back to this thread after some testing. oh and.. I once had this problem before, I underclocked my gfx card (radeon 9600 pro) and the problem was gone, but now it's haunting me again even though I have decreased the clockrate even more, so it has nothing to do with overheating. I have a VIA chipset, that could be causing the problem too, but all other games work just fine.. I tried all the fixes in the VIA chipset problems thread.. and on avon lady's faq and none of those worked. any thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 25, 2004 My buest guess about all this is, that there must be a problem with newer Radeon Cards...I know they don't support some features of flashpoint (like W-Buffer)...might be a reason... I'm using an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe, with nforce2 chipset and it crashes, therefore I doubt it's a problem of the VIA chipset... Would be great if somebody could find out what the problem was...but it must be OFP, as all other games run fine Soundcard is not the problem, it crashed to desktop with onboard sound and does it as well with my new Creative Audigy.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 25, 2004 Next I will replace the RAM, maybe that's the cause because I use mixed RAMs... I would consider this to be the most likely cause listed so far. Did you test matching RAM yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OutbreakeR 0 Posted January 25, 2004 Disabling the W-Buffer might solve the crashing then? Have you tried that? I never even thought of it.. *edit* I have tested the ram with various programs and they all said it was ok.. so RAM shouldnt be the reason for the crashing on my computer. Since my OFP used to work just fine.. and then one day it started crashing.. oh! i forgot about a bluescreen OFP once caused.. it complained something about ati3duag.dll and BFAEAFE5 and BFAIB000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 25, 2004 The W-buffer is disabled by default when using a card that doesn't support it (like the newer radeons)...but maybe OFP needs this enabled...I don't know.. The RAM works just fine, I doubt that this is the reason because all other programs work just fine...I also replaced the RAM and it also crashed no matter which one I used... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 25, 2004 Does the game crash if you play missions that only use the officially installed addons and no unofficial addons are installed in OFP? Have you tried that? If you can't get it to crash with just OFP's original addons installed, that might point to a problematic unofficial addon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 25, 2004 Similarly, how many MBs of unofficial addons are you starting up OFP with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 25, 2004 I used no addons, just the official stuff...thought about that too, but unfortunately that wasn't the cause.... I also suspected some official Windows updates...but I uninstalled all, and it still crashed.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 25, 2004 Looks like you'll have to follow Suma's standard reply: Quote[/b] ]If you really want to know the answer, follow the advice given here and there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornile 0 Posted January 25, 2004 Hmmmm....I disabled HWT&L and all I got was a hard reset....very strange, didn't know a video card was capable of doing this.... What do you think of my Power issue ? Is 350W for a Athlon 2500, Radeon 9800SE, 2 optical drives, 1 HDD and 1 sound card to weak ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 25, 2004 What do you think of my Power issue ? Is 350W for a Athlon 2500, Radeon 9800SE, 2 optical drives, 1 HDD and 1 sound card to weak Should be ok, if you want to test it unplug all the hardware that isn't crucial and try it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OutbreakeR 0 Posted January 26, 2004 Why is it just OFP crashing, not the other games? I'd rather have the other games crashing and OFP working.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
