SKULLS_Viper 0 Posted August 23, 2002 CLICK HERE. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Updated 10:42 PM ET August 22, 2002 SEOUL (Reuters) - A U.S. Army Apache helicopter carrying two pilots has gone missing over forested mountains in South Korea, the second such incident this month. The pilots were on a night training mission when the aircraft went missing on Thursday between Camp Page in Chunchon and Camp Eagle in Wonju, 50 miles east of Seoul, army officials said. "(It's) extremely mountainous and thickly forested, ...it's triple canopy, deep gullies and ravines," said Major Holly Pierce at U.S. 8th Army public affairs. "We are currently searching on foot," she said. "It could take days because of the terrain." Search parties on the ground are being assisted by the South Korean army and police. The U.S. army also has UH-60 Blackhawk and OH-58 Kiowa Warrior helicopters combing the area. The missing helicopter is a AH-64A Apache. Two pilots survived the crash of a similar U.S. Army AH-64D Longbow in South Korea on August 1. That incident is still under investigation. The Apache is built by U.S. maker Boeing Co in Mesa, Arizona, and powered by General Electric Co's GE-701 engines. The U.S. military has had a heavy presence in South Korea since the end of the 1950-53 Korean War which pitted the South, back by U.S.-led forces, against the communist North, backed by China. <span id='postcolor'> I hope they find them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted August 23, 2002 Mountains and helicopters have never mixed too well. Remember a helo or two went down in the Balkans in similar incidents. Perhaps they were relying to much on terrain avoidance software? Or maybe they werent relying on it enough?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted August 23, 2002 Not a good month for Americans and helicopters......... Hope they come out ok. pitty my 200th post had to be as depressing as the 100th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted August 23, 2002 hopefully they are ok...but from past incidents, i doubt they will survive and Col. Kurtz, hopefully your 300th will be happy one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted August 23, 2002 You never know, it could have been an abduction! By either the aliens, or the North Koreans! Both are highly unlikely though...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted August 24, 2002 CNN now reports that the bodies of the crew have been found: http://www.cnn.com/2002....ex.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted August 24, 2002 "30mm machine gun" Cant CNN get anything right? Its a pity they crashed and burned, but at least they found them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted August 24, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Aug. 23 2002,23:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"30mm machine gun" Cant CNN get anything right? Its a pity they crashed and burned, but at least they found them.<span id='postcolor'> Actually, that is correct for the AH-64A -- it carries the Boeing M230 Chain Gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted August 24, 2002 That sucks. Wonder what the cause was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted August 24, 2002 either bad weather or mechanical mafunction...mountains are horrible place to fly gelos, especially in valleys.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted August 24, 2002 mechanical malfunction... thats kinda broad lol. Reminds me of this one aircraft mechanic joke list... P = The problem logged by the pilot. S = The solution logged by the mechanic. P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement. S: Almost replaced left inside main tire. P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough. S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft. P: No. 2 propeller seeping prop fluid. S: No. 2 propeller seepage normal. Nos. 1, 3 and 4 propellers lack normal seepage. P: Something loose in cockpit. S: Something tightened in cockpit. P: Dead bugs on windshield. S: Live bugs on backorder. P: Autopilot in "altitude-hold" mode produces a 200-fpm descent. S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground. P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear. S: Evidence removed. P: DME volume unbelievably loud. S: DME volume set to more believable level. P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick. S: That's what they're there for! P: Transponder inoperative. S: Transponder always inoperative in OFF mode. P: Suspected crack in windscreen. S: Suspect you're right. P: Number 3 engine missing. S: Engine found on right wing after brief search. P: Aircraft handles funny. S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious. P: Radar hums. S: Reprogrammed radar with words. P: Mouse in cockpit. S: Cat installed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted August 24, 2002 More of a chaingun, really. Its RoF is too high for a cannon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted August 24, 2002 Still, the calibre is a little big to be considered a machine gun. If you could make a 155 fire 700rpm would you call it a machine gun? Automatic Artlillery more liekly........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted August 24, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Aug. 24 2002,14:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Still, the calibre is a little big to be considered a machine gun. If you could make a 155 fire 700rpm would you call it a machine gun? Automatic Artlillery more liekly........<span id='postcolor'> No, youd call it gold. And I want to buy some stock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites