mrlukascz 1 Posted December 15, 2011 Hi i have a question about the analog sticks at a gamepad. Is it working in the game? I mean thumb joysticks. I have a plan to buy a gamepad and try to make a "home made simulator system" (from the analog sticks - cyclic and collective). :-) Sorry for my english. I will write it in czech language too. Ahoj mam otázku ohlednÄ› analogových páÄek na gamepadu. Fungujà ve hÅ™e? Mám na mysli palcové joysticky. Mám v plánu koupit si gamepad a zkusit si doma udÄ›lat páku cykliky a kolektiv z tÄ›ch analogových páÄek z gamepadu. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armored_sheep 56 Posted December 15, 2011 Analog controls on gamepad work well in TKOH. Don´t forget that all additional controls must be manualy maped. For XBOX controler, there is predefined a scheme that can be used. KlidnÄ› to hraj na gamepadu, analogové páÄky na nÄ›m hra pozná. Nezapomeň si je ale namapovat v controls menu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chladic88 1 Posted December 16, 2011 Hi, i have home Sony Playstation 3 System and from this system i have Dualshock3. I play this very nice game first on keyboard. After that i have idea to use Dualshock3 from PS3 ... And ... it work very softly :-) Diference between DS3 and keyboard is very big ... PS: only one minus is analog colectiv, whe you land on ground and you relaase stick, colecetiv go on midlle position.So you get up from ground. Ahoj, doma mám PS3 a od nÄ›j ovladaÄ Dualshock 3. NejdÅ™Ãv jsem hru hrál jen na klávesnici, po dohránà jsem dostal nápad použÃt ovladaÄ od PS3 ... A ... FrÄà to prostÄ› úžasnÄ› a hladce ... RozdÃl mezi klávesnicà a DS3 je velký ... PS: jediný mÃnus je analogový kolektiv, když pÅ™istneÅ¡ na zem a pustÃÅ¡ páÄku, kde máš analogový kolektiv pÅ™iÅ™azený, kolektiv se vrátà na stÅ™edovou polohu ... takže vzlÃtneÅ¡. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrlukascz 1 Posted December 17, 2011 EN: So i bought yesterday gamepad Genius Maxfire Grandias 12 (it's cheap ... i plan to dissassembly it and use the analog sticks) and flying is really great. :-) Is it different against mouse and keyboard so i must train but first impression is excellent. I am working on a 3D model of controls i want make. Now i have almost complete collective. The red thing on the picture is thumb joystick (i will take it from gamepad). The gold thing is hinge. It's added there for that the strees will not be work on the joystick. CZ: Tak jsem si koupil vÄera gamepad Genius Maxfire Grandias 12 (je levný ... plánuju ho rozebrat a použÃt z nÄ›ho ty analogový páÄky) a létánà je opravdu výborný. :-) Je to rozdÃl oproti myÅ¡i a klávesnici tak musÃm trénovat ale prvnà dojem je skvÄ›lý. Pracuju na 3D modelu ovládánÃ, který chci udÄ›lat. TeÄ mam skoro hotovej návrh kolektivu. ÄŒervená vÄ›c na obrázku je ten palcový joystick (vemu ho z toho gamepadu). Zlatá vÄ›c je pant. Je tam kvůli tomu aby nebyla namáhaná ta analogová páÄka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JesseDavis 1 Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) For analogue collective you need a real slider or throttle, that doesn't spring back after moving. Using the shoulder buttons (as digital buttons and not analogue) works well for collective on a gamepad Remember you can use more than one joystick! I am using a Hotas in my hands, and my pedals are plugged into a steering wheel for driving games which sits under my desk (force feedback turned off in the driver panel though). For example if you had an old driving wheel you could attach a lever to it and mount it under your chair on the left, for a realistic collective lever, and then also use the pedals. Or you could break open an old joystick and remove the springs, and then build something to hold it in place through friction. Edited December 18, 2011 by JesseDavis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chladic88 1 Posted December 18, 2011 So, i have one question for Armored Sheep. Do you have tips how to map Joypad with analogue colectiv? Now i have cyclic on left stick and analogue colectiv on right stick, pedals are on L2 and R2. On R1 i have free look, on X button is action button, (i can start up all system in heli on joypad [DS3])on square button i have colectiv down. On triangle button i have fireing from weapons and on O button i have minimap ... DO you have any tips? PS: i use MotionJoy driver for DS3, in game i select x360 controller and this i remap. CZ: Mám jednu otázku na Obrňenou ovci (může to tak být? :D). Nemáš nÄ›jaký tipy jak namapovat joypad, tak aby na nÄ›m Å¡el analogový kolektiv? TeÄ mám na levé páÄce páku cykliky, na pravé (nahoru a dolu) mám páku kolektivu, pedály jsou na L2 a R2. NA R1 mám volný pohled, na tlaÄÃtku "křÞek" mám akÄnà tlaÄÃtko (takže můžu nastartovat a dokonce i vypnout motory helikoptéry jen na joypadu [DualShock3]), na tlaÄÃtku "ÄtvereÄek" mámkolektiv dolů ( na klávesnici tlaÄÃtko Z), trojúhelnÃk je pro stÅ™elbu ze zbranà a koleÄko je minimapa. Takže, nemáš nÄ›jaký tip? P.S:použÃvám ovladaÄ MotionJoy pro DS3 na pc, ve hÅ™e jsem pak zvolil nastavenà pro ovladaÄ pro x360 a to nastavenà jsem upravil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armored_sheep 56 Posted December 20, 2011 I dont see a clear solution for analog collective on gamepads. Some can prefer buttons for increas/decrease collective. Some can still live with the centered analog collective and map analog sticks in the same order that he is used to control RC helicopter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites