Sadico 1 Posted May 18, 2002 http://europe.cnn.com/2002/US/05/17/ret.seal.death/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted May 18, 2002 Could happen again in condor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Report details SEAL's last stand in Afghanistan<span id='postcolor'> i think that was the topic, not that a SEAL was dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted May 18, 2002 Yeah, because Anaconda was over weeks ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted May 19, 2002 The story CNN reported apparently omitted a few things. For starters, Roberts had only his sidearm when he fell from the helicopter; he lost his rifle moments ealier when he helped another soldier into the Chinook while it was on the ground. After he fell from the chopper, he apparently took out an enemy gun crew with his sidearm, and then used their machinegun (a PK or DS series) until it jammed or ran out of ammunition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted May 19, 2002 yea this is kinda old news. there was also i believe a ranger that was killed, i think im not sure. unfortunatly thats the sad truth to war. theres never a victory with out causalties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted May 19, 2002 From what I have seen and heard, that whole episode was a big snafu. The Chinook landed in a spot that had been pre-sited with machine guns and mortars, the guerrillas waited until half of the group had gotten out, and then let them have it. It is a testament to their training, equipment, and luck that they got away as lightly as they did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted May 19, 2002 well i would like to know what it is we are gona do now. are we gona whack saddam or not? are we gona send CIA agents into pakistan to look for Osama and taliban leader muhama mullah omar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 19, 2002 the reason the LZ was hot was because our afghan "allies" "forgot" to tell us they decided it was too "unsafe" to clear it out and went back home, or at least that's what i read a month or so ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted May 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ May 18 2002,21:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From what I have seen and heard, that whole episode was a big snafu. The Chinook landed in a spot that had been pre-sited with machine guns and mortars, the guerrillas waited until half of the group had gotten out, and then let them have it. It is a testament to their training, equipment, and luck that they got away as lightly as they did<span id='postcolor'> That is a very effective technique that the Mujahedeen developed when the Russians where in Afghanistan. They would scope out likely landing zones in advance, find concealment, and sight in their machine guns and mortars. The next step was sometimes the offering of a irresistable target, such as a seemingly isolated patrol of fighters, or a campsite. There would often be high casualties among the decoy patrol, but the locals have always been willing to die for their cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted May 19, 2002 professionals are always predictable. its the amateurs who you have to keep an eye on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites