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To clarify - we have 41 pages of submitted applications to become civilians. Applications are closed for any new ones being made until were caught up on those 41 pages. You can donate 30 bucks to have your application moved to the front but that doesn't keep your application from being accepted. There is only so many that we can do at a time and don't expect our staff to sit and do apps 24/7. We don't plan on increasing staff rapidly as it just lets in trolls with the intentions of not helping but stealing as found in the past. Were probably accepting 100 apps a day that are not anyone that have donated to fast track.

AMatt, I don't condone utilizing framework from Tonic if he doesn't want to give them permission to use it. But that is not my call to make or force them to switch. Stealing content from creators other than Tonic I don't see that A3L has done other than speculation of being a commercial entity and using publicly released modpacks which by their licenses were able to use. Now they should be credited and that will be fixed or atleast recommended to do from my end. There has never been the intention to be disrespectful to this community but all I've seen in prior posts is wild accusations and personal attacks and of course someone young as Caiden is going to act the way he did in his responses. Now the reason I do stay in A3L is for the sole fact that there is quite a lot of potential to be a great mod for not only our community but others should that day come to release the mod information publicly rather than select individuals hacking into the server and post their own communities. I feel that I can try and reason with the team and put them on a track to be totally compliant and be over this huge debate of stealing and etc. The true intention was to never stay on Tonic's version for ever but to design while we continue working with Steaker that never left may I add finish his framework. That is the goal I am trying to reach and why I am taking the time out of my life to act as a mediator of this whole situation. ---------- Post added at 17:01 ---------- Previous post was at 17:00 ---------- Steven, Thank you for that clarification and will talk with our team about how we can better utilize something like this as mentioned if other communities are utilizing this type of setup.

Hi Steven, I will ask for an explanation on Caiden's behalf and forward as he has been banned from the forums for comments he shouldn't have made. Just my perspective that he probably feels that he isn't in violation of using public released addons from Armaholic and that his (being mod makers) only reason for requesting the removal is because certain individuals contacted him and fed him a line of bull about us (A3L) being a commercial entity as were not that. Would be more than glad to speak with these individuals directly outside of this forum thread not to be hiding anything but it really isn't any ones business of what is said unless one of the two parties wants to release that information. Regarding the resigned and redistributed - doesn't other communities do the same when they release a mod pack for their community? Do they really make them go out and individually download everything so that they can play the mod? This I am not familiar enough with and just asking a question to have better understanding.

cofi0276, The applications are closed so that the small amount of staff can catch up the 41 pages of applications that are already there pending. Anyone from the outside is going to immediately blast off the they are doing this and that but you don't see the inside of where our team tries to focus on applications and getting all of them whitelisted and into the game to play. There is a way for applications to be processed faster if you donate but that doesn't mean someone that hasn't initially put in an application can donate and then apply as applications are closed for everyone at the moment. So your allegations are inaccurate in my view and won't comment further regarding that matter in all due respect sir.

ACyprus, Very good question and that I will ask on and respond back with. As the way I see it, players have the ability to request a refund from PayPal for their donation made to play access the mod quicker. If someone that wants to get a refund that would be up to obviously themselves, PayPal and Caiden to accommodate. I don't see that being actually done as the originally intent I don't feel was to steal money from community members in order to fund personal advances and etc.

cofi0276, Not sure what you mean as hundreds of applications have been accepted without any means of donations. Please provide proof that people are having to pay to play this mod now since Bohemia mentioned us to remove our donator system. Otherwise your comment is null and void as that is not in fact the case. ---------- Post added at 14:38 ---------- Previous post was at 14:37 ---------- Acyprus, Thanks honestly for the first most reasonable question as asked. Yes we were in breach of the BI EULA and was advised by BI to remove it. That has been done and no BI did not advise us that we had to refund every individual that donated during that time. ---------- Post added at 14:43 ---------- Previous post was at 14:38 ---------- I have looked this up real quick so I do apologize if it seems to be lacking a valid full response. I hope that is the answer your looking for as to the add-ons utilized by A3L and resigned?

M1lkm8n, Thanks for the entertainment of your first line of response. I am here to try and provide you some type of responsible response to your inquiries and be a level headed individual and advise the team of A3L of the concerns you have and that in fact if they have commited to do something illegally encourage them to correct those actions for sake of our A3L community that plays. So again, thanks for your attempt to insult someone that is trying to step up and actually try and make a reasonable attempt to resolve this issue and/or issues.

AtinAkiri, When contacted by Bohemia to remove our donation program, everyone was advised and they tried to modify the donation system to be compliant which was changed again. Now the donator system has been removed and open beta has been released. It is not against the rules to use them without written consent. It is a common courtesy in which should have been done as I agree with you there but I wasn't here when the original development of the community. They feel that A3L is non commercial and have every right to utilize the released mod packs as stated in the modpack postings on armaholic.

I was just given this thread this morning as I don't sit on the forums watching for posts against the community I am currently apart of. However I did want to respond to this nonsense allegation regarding head admins purchasing a new truck with donations. For one no Head Admin even comes close to having access to the A3L Paypal account. So I want to stop that in its track immediately. Now let's all be grown adults or for some young adults and try and discuss your concerns that you absolutely have every right to have and question. I want to point out a few things first before all the flames and attacks come at me so that we are clear. 1. I do not run or have control over A3L 2. I do not have paypal access to A3L to comment on donations 3. Yes Altis Life platform made by Tonic is currently being used ( This is something Caiden and Tonic need to deal with) 4. I can only convey your message to A3L Team but final decisions are definitely out of my control. 5. Bohemia has spoken to us and as we currently are told by them we are complaint with their EULA My Beliefs: 1. We should be focusing on utilizing steakers framework and fixing it to an operational framework 2. I have always in a business practice receive a written email of authorization to use someones work. However from what I've read that Armaholic items are published for free usage for non-commercial in which A3L falls under. 3. I don't like trying to hide anything so if you have a sensible question to ask then I will try and provide you a reasonable answer. So with that said, I have a full time job so responses can't be done immediately so bare that in mind.

There is no additional application process when joining A3L than the civilian application. Once you complete the civ app and interview process your in. If you want to join EMS, PD or Sheriffs, you put in an application as if you would trying to get a job in real life. Hope that helps man.

Rob, I appreciate your concerns but you don't work for Bohemia and we will let that be an issue between Bohemia and ourselves. Thanks for your concerns and have a great Monday sir. Mike

Please login to Teampseak at ts3.arma3-life.com and speak with an admin or support. They should be able to assist you on obtaining your account information.

Takus, Sorry for the delayed response as been busy with work. I'm not sure how you find it misleading so I will try and explain further. You can NOT donate $30.00 and immediately get access to closed beta as previously.

Takus, Not sure what your actually talking about but as we clearly can see that you are just wanting to come on here and flame than ask questions as I can tell you since we changed our rules to comply with Bohemia that you and I have not had any discussions to where I told you needed to pay to play our mod. So I will be very clear as it appears some need it spelled out for them. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY TO BE A MEMBER OF A3L 1) Fill out Civilian Application 2) Complete Teamspeak Interview 3) Wait two weeks and interact on forums as a civilian 4) Apply to EMS, PD or SO (Sheriffs) 5) If accepted your into Beta Prior there was the ability to pay $30.00 and be a gold donator or higher and get access to our beta testing. That was been removed to meet compliance with Bohemia Interactive. If you have additional questions or concerns, you can always find me on Teamspeak to discuss or forums.

Totally agree with you and if you have any questions, please feel free to send me an email on here. - Mike

Eggbeast, I apologize that your friend felt as if he needed to become a donator in order to be part of our community. Please have your friend contact me directly on teamspeak and be more than happy to explain and clear things up for him. As to the nonprofit being formed, we explained to our attorney and gave them Bohemia's information and allow them to work out all that legality issues. I'm smart enough to know when to leave that to the professionals. If you want to private message me and send me your personal email address, be more than glad to put you into contact with Bohemia that I'm working with. Thanks, Mike ---------- Post added at 21:38 ---------- Previous post was at 21:34 ---------- Darkhorse, Thanks for your input and will leave it to our Attorney and allow them to work with Bohemia directly on what can be done and what is within our legal rights.

Eggbeast, I was linked this forum post to respond to your request for someone to answer your inquires. We have been in contact with Bohemia and their awesome staff and were assisting them with complying to their most recent attempts to stop communities with profiting from their product with hosting mods and offering perks to players in exchange for real money. Our situation is different as were in the process of becoming a nonprofit and all our donations go back directly into our community but until the approval from Bohemia is given, we have removed any portions that conflict with their legal departments requests. As to respond to your questions about having to donate to join our closed beta. You can be apart of our closed beta by simply applying to the EMS, Police Department or Sheriff Department. You simply just first need to be accepted into our community as a civilian and be a member for 2 weeks. Players were able to join previously if they met a certain level of donator level as we needed more bug testers but wasn't ready for a whole open beta approach and overrun our staff. You requested information regarding special vehicles. The price you are paying for the porting of the vehicle by the modeler. In exchange for covering that cost, you receive a version of that car in your garage when public release. All other players in the game have the opportunity of owning that same vehicle by simply going to a car dealer associated with that manufacturer. Can't comment on a players remarks regarding our mod that isn't part of leadership. I would like to highlight some of the expenses we have that you raise concern of commercial scale levels. Were not Armatec with City Life or any other community that uses our communities donations to buy real life vehicles or pay their house payment with your donation. All donations are keep to ensure that our community members have a stable and secure environment to enjoy a game that is made for them by them through their input and ideas. Being that we have a large community requires large amounts of servers to be able to keep up with these type of numbers. So you can simply add the incoming donations but until you run those numbers against expenses of server hosting, domain name, email, Firewall Protection, DDOS protection, TeamSpeak Licensing and etc. That adds up pretty quickly. Thank you for your inquiry and look forward to seeing you in our community. Mike Baxter Project Manager Arma 3 Life