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[EDIT: The original opening post has been edited out in order to get a clearer conversation going on] Hello, As you may or may not know, ARMA3 features a brand new intelligent crosshair. It will inform you whenever the muzzle of your weapon is pointed at an obstacle, cover or anything else that may prevents you from shooting correctly. This result in a moving intelligent crosshair as shown by the following video : While this feature is great, it also replace the original/regular crosshair a lot of players have been used to for years. So many of you guys may be happy with it but there is also a part of the community which is bothered by this change because we are taken out of our usual comfort zone. Obviously we wouldn't want to remove such a nice feature. However, many of us would like either the option to switch it on/off or a possible change to improve the feature. Here are the 3 possibilities suggested so far : - Provide an in-game option to disable/enable this feature. When disabled it will be a regular crosshair indicating the center of the screen like in Arma2 for example. - Replace the movements of the intelligent crosshair with a change in colour whenever something is in the way. - Stick with the intelligent crosshair and add a second one or a dot which keeps indicating the center of the screen. If you have any other suggestion then feel free to explain it or simply voice your opinion on the matter. Have a great day gentlemen. Regards.

Nice free diving vid Couldn't you use diving gear for this though?

Hope it stay that way and we'll see the community grow as much as possible

Indeed. You are 100% correct. This feature would be wonderful if it was an addition to the regular crosshair, like a double crosshair or a colour change as someone suggested but I'd be fine with the option to have "Intelligent crosshair/Normal crosshair" switch. I will also change the title which is very inappropriate and will edit out my opening post to makes things clear. ---------- Post added at 22:22 ---------- Previous post was at 21:57 ---------- Alright, I've changed the title and edited the topic but it seems like in the thread list the title won't change, it keep saying the same as before. I may need to make a new one. I will also eventually make a feedback report so people can vote about it.

Don't worry, I will be perfectly fine like I have always been without it before. It is even quite the contrary since I am specifically asking to disable what "gimps" me already but thanks for your concern. Have a good day, sir.

Hello, I'd like to remove the automatic adjustment of the crosshair to use a regular one : http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?149128-Request-Removing-Crosshair-auto-adjustment ^ I made this thread with a video inside, if anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated. I would just like a regular crosshair.

I indeed understand how it works and there's people who perfectly comprehend why it is bothering so perhaps you simply fail at grapsing such a simple concept. Or maybe you just like being a contrarian? Or the devs will realize it doesn't cater to a part of what the community needs and will understand it would be a good thing to provide an option to switch it off. It's simple, really. Obviously if it doesn't happen, then yes, I'm hoping for a mod. But again you make it sounds like I expect something special when in fact I do expect what most shooters crosshair, including A2, are already doing.

Honestly, I'm kinda tired explaining it over and over. Once again : I do not mind the feature I just don't want it to replace the regular crosshair. Dammit, it's really irritating, I've said that a thousand of times already. "If you had a crosshair that only showed you the center" Holy hell, is A3 the only shooter you ever played? I have years of gaming habbits with a regular crosshair which does not include such a feature. Just like many people have their habbits you can't blame them when they're getting taken out of their comfort zone. So please, don't make it sounds like I'm some sort of alien in a world where all shooters use this feature. And you'd notice I'm far from the only one playing that way so I don't know why some of you all act shocked because someone is bothered by this change. The same good it is for any other shooter, the gun would be shooting at the location I know it would shoot, it's all that matters. I don't need the crosshair to adapt itself because I'm already adapting to the environment by myself.

^ I'm glad we cleared the situation then. If you play without crosshair per usual then yeah I understand why you're cool with the feature. We got different habbits, that's all. I also try to play without the crosshair right now because the actual one is annoying me so I somehow locate more or less the center of my screen but I would like much more having a regular crosshair anyway. Thanks for your answer, sir.

I completely understand that. I don't know if my english isn't good enough or if you're really not able to grasp the issue I'm talking about. There is no "weird" behavior of the crosshair, it works as intended. As for the issue, you don't necessarily have to understand me to accept the fact it is an annoyance to me. However, since you seem to be in fact, a nice person, I'll try once more to be clear : I just don't NEED to have the indication that I'm not aligned with my target because I am NOT always aligned with a target hence why I'm talking about ANTICIPATION. As you confirm it you seem to be the kind of person who stand still when shooting and takes the time to adjust the crosshair/optics. I do not play like this. The information I need is : where is my screen center. I will shoot WHEN I need to but as soon as the crosshair encounter an obstacle it will indicate it to me and it will leave the center of my screen for a short period of time until I move out of the way which prevents me from anticipating where my screen center will be up until the crosshair goes back to its original place and then I will need to adjust my sight AGAIN. Which is extremely annoying and this is just an example out of many. I've seen this video, it was posted earlier in this thread; I totally get it and I don't need such information since I already take those elements in consideration before shooting. At least, it is not useful if it is to the detriment of the original crosshair. Again, I fully believe and support the idea per se. I'm only asking to let people have the option to turn it off. Either that or add a second crosshair or a dot that stay still. [EDIT: I also like the colour idea of F2K Sel] Because I don't try to shoot when I'm in such a situation but at this point I'm still in the need to know where my weapon is aimed at, I don't need to know where my bullets are going to be shot. I already anticipate this information. I don't need a visual indicator of that to the detriment of losing my exact screen center indicator. I guess that's why you can't understand me. There's two things : 1. Once again, I did explain that but as you perfectly pointed out the crosshair indicate me where my weapon is pointed which is THE info I need at all time. I already KNOW if there is a rock or a door or whatever in my way of shooting but as soon as the crosshair indicate to me where my weapon is towarded from the closest obstacle then I lose the first information which is the most important of the two. 2. I do indeed shoot with the crosshair when necessary, just like I did in arma2. Given the nature of your post I guess we just don't play the same at all. I do use ADS when it's required but I can completely shoot to various range with the crosshair, hell, I even do so without it. You only need to know how the weapon react to your movements, how it shoot and how accurate it is or not to anticipate where the bullets are going to. Obviously the closest the better it is. You seem to think, for some reason, that I'm actually arguing it's not a good feature. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm only saying the original crosshair info is more important to me than the one this feature provides me. And this answer shows me you didn't read this thread much. I've already acknowledged that my first impression was wrong and I said it in one of the first reply of this thread, it is easily misleading when you first discover it and just didn't put much thought into it. When I found about it I simply switched off the crosshair altogether. I only went back thinking about the issue when I made this thread. I'm getting "defensive" because you guys keep arguing that if I don't like it's because I don't understand it, which is completely false. It almost sounds like you wants to prevent us from having the possibility to turn it off like it did matter to you. If you like Arma you should support the idea of having more control and options of the UI. As simple as that. It isn't going to prevents you from using it either.

That would be sweet obviously but so far I had no reply to my request so we'll see. The devs could have easily added such a switch off though. Hopefully they do add one later.

Hello there, Would anyone be kind enough to makes a mod that remove the automatic adjustment of the crosshair ? Here is what I'm talking about : It is very annoying for me so I'd be the happiest man in the world if there was a little mod to prevent this. Thanks. EDIT: Just realized I made this thread in the wrong forum, it should be there : http://forums.bistudio.com/forumdisplay.php?163-ARMA-3-ALPHA-ADDONS-amp-MODS-DISCUSSION Can a moderator move it to the proper forum discussion? I apologize for the inconvenience.

I didn't feel much improvements whatsoever; I'm a heli hungry player, I love them, I love to fly them in any games but it seems so off in Arma2 and it's not much better in A3 so far. From what I've read ITT they are going to use another flight model? For such a deep game with a lot of different mechanics I wasn't expecting an heli sim anyway. It's enough to have fun altough it'd be a great surprise if they dramatically improve it.

I thought it was only made to report bugs for some reason. Will check it out, thanks a lot.

It's true that the release on steam will help with the mods. As for the UI/menu/overall key design then I doubt they're going to change much, it's very close to what we had in Arma2 so far. Also I'm well aware it's the alpha which is why it is the right moment to voice our opinion on this particular matter. Whishing something will happen and not say a thing isn't the way to go. If we wants the devs to be aware of such issue then it's the right time to shout it out. I'm an Arma fan and I'm not, for my personal use, bothered by the way the game is designed. However, I want the game to succeed to bring more fans of the genre and build up the player base.

Obviously. Did I said anything that would suggest to make the game generic? Growing the fanbase of the genre is always good if the spirit of the game is kept. The OP is completely right and nothing indicate that Arma3 is going another route so far. The game is badly designed to be user friendly. Which has nothing to do with the game being unique and its core features.

Woh, it's exactly what I've been saying about Arma2 at the time. It couldn't be more true. This is a niche genre because it isn't user friendly, I know a LOT of my friends would like to play a game like Arma2/3 but can't bother with all the annoyance around it. It needs to be completely redesigned from that stand point and it would grow the fanbase a lot.

Exactly, it's as simple as that :D

First off, giving flexibility to the gameplay/UI/controls can't be a bad thing so there's nothing wrong with asking for that possibility. Second, I'm living proof you think wrong since I do appreciate the crosshair while I also dislike that feature. So nope, "technically" there is no option to turn it off and the way you said that make it sounds like you're trying to be an as**ole but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. And finally, thanks for your concern but I do not have any issue with judging perspective and angles neither do I have issue shooting "things" from various range with the crosshair. Some of us didn't wait Arma3 for that. Once again, I'm all for keeping the feature, and I'm also very glad it suits a part of the player base. However, there's no need to act like this is absolutely perfect and that everybody have to enjoy it. Thanks for confirming I can't remove it, I still hope somebody will find the time to make a mod for it or that the devs will realize it can be an issue for some people and add the possibility to switch it on/off. In all honesty it wouldn't have ruined the crosshair for me if they did something similar to this instead (excuse the horrible MSpaint job) :

Since nobody seem to know how to remove this function I guess it must not be possible to switch it off in game so as someone earlier suggested I made a mod request there : http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?149128-Request-Removing-Crosshair-auto-adjustment&p=2327420#post2327420 Hopefully someone will be nice enough to help me out.

A magic marker that change whenever I'm 3rd person or 1st ? :D

You do realize that some people have been playing FPS without such a features for years now and had no issue with that? I don't need it. Simple. I'm already adapted to the difference between the crosshair and the bullets direction. Some players anticipate where their bullets are going already. I only like to have an indicator of my screen center, that's all. It's not like everyone play the exact same. I perfectly understand some people are glad this is implemented, it does not suit some people because they simply play DIFFERENTLY than you do. As I said, some will like it, some won't.

You are simply wrong. Not everyone play the same. ---------- Post added at 14:01 ---------- Previous post was at 13:54 ---------- Exactly. I don't need the game to tell me where the bullets are going; I only need the crosshair to accurately indicate me where the "center" of my screen is. I adapt everything around it then. Which is why it can be such a bad feature for some players and a good feature for others. Where do I disable it is my only question, this thread is not a debate on wether it's a good thing or not because I already stated I'm fine if they keep it as long as I can disable it. However, at the moment, it's bad for me and it's all that matters so I'd like to turn it off, that's all gentlemen.

Not saying this is bad. However it's not for everyone and I am the kind to already anticipate my environement, this feature completely screw my gameplay and aiming but that's just me I'm pretty sure there are people who likes it. Thanks, good to know, hope they keep it for those who enjoy it but just add the possibility to turn it off

Agreed on all counts especially #1