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a mix of low and medium depending on resolution.

oops..forgot about second monitor ...but as i said i play on a 60hz 1080P tv and have zero problems :) so while 120 has twice the refresh rate i think that %90 of the time it will not be noticed especially in A3 where people have trouble getting to 60FPS. and if i had to buy something in 120 range it would be a TV like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889253335 I have never dealt with MSI simple because over the years i have not heard great things about them so as a rule i stick with Gigabyte,ASrock and ASUS, as for the hero MB the review said you get all the power with out all the fluff (crap you wont use) even though there are boards that may be better the hero is still a solid choice :) look it up when you get a chance you will find it is a very nice card :) I cant answer that but when i see over 1700 reviews and 5 stars i figure you cant go wrong :) I chose the pro because it has almost twice the amount of 4KB Random Write IOPS and twice the amount of Sustained Sequential Write's VS the non pro series while i agree with you on practicality I will also say that if i am spending over 2K on a rig i expect i will be using it for 5 years and as such I will ""try"" to future proof as much as i can because in 4 years i have no idea what kind of upgrade i might do and what kind of watt sucking monster video card i might buy :) also there is is the resale factor...suppose in 3-4 years i decide todo a ground up build it does not hurt to have major name brand PSU top of the line series to help me sell the rig. Z506 is an entry level setup but I believe it will sufficient for his needs and if he wants something better it is best to go to the store and listen to all the different options to see what truly fits his needs. to be honest i went to the alienware site and looked up his selection and all i saw was "alienware approved 850W" ...when they substitute "approved" for the actual manufacturer i tend to think there hiding something :( now if he has never built a rig before it can be a daunting task but there are a ton of sites and youtube videos that can help you through it. which is what my squad mate is doing right now....he has a cyberpower PC he bought and is not real happy as he thought he had a quad core but it turns out it was the i5 661 (dualcore with HT) and 1156 ontop of that :( he was going to reuse his PSU till i told him to look up reviews on it...what he found was nothing but negative reviews so now he has decided to build his own :)

your video card is not the problem :)

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5591/asus-maximus-vi-hero-intel-z87-motherboard-review/index12.html SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100352VXSR Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card $309.99 for me the 7950 is the sweet spot between performance and cost :) 3GB of ram 384bit interface and good clock along with being OC'able , of course this is open to debate so please add recommendations :) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $71.99 SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $239.99 according to reviews Samsung is the best show in town when it comes to SSD's Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $64.99 no frills storage drive SeaSonic Platinum-1000 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready $229.99 this is the best of the best :) NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case $119.99 strong case well ventilated ready for water :) comes in different colors Corsair Vengeance K70 CH-9000011-NA Black USB Wired Gaming Mechanical Keyboard $119.99 mechanical keyboard Corsair Vengeance M65 Laser FPS Gaming Mouse CH-9000022-NA Gunmetal Black 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Laser 8200 dpi Mouse $69.99 Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers $89.99 wireless would be a nice option but that get expensive :) SAMSUNG S27C230B Glossy Black 27" 5ms (GTG) Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 Mega Infinite DCR (1000:1) $299.99 Now as I stated earlier i use my 46 inch TV now so it might not hurt to looking into that option as it serves a dual purpose as well. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $99 LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) - OEM $59.99 well there it is a complete rig for $2236 :) p.s after market cooling was left out as i have read there are some compatibility issues (1150) with the some of the standard water cooling products.

@GoPr0ne nice specs :) you will see improvement with the new rig but it will not be as profound as say coming from and old dual core AMD, as for monitors I pretty much stick with samsung and look for the quickest response time the highest rez and the one with the richest color (samsung) that being said i have not used my monitor in years ever since i bought my 1080p 46 inch TV that has been my monitor :) @[ACR]MasterBlaster give us a price point and as for cyberpower i do not like there PSU's so unless they have changed I would go with them as for alienware they have always been a bit pricey add to this fact that Dell bought them does not really inspire confidence. but like i said give us a price point and the people here give advice :)

Hmmm i get the feeling something is going to pick up a stick very soon :)

I did not write it for you ;) , if you read my post it was in response to some people on a tight budget, as for writing a guide to PC building for ARMA i would be happy to collaborate with you :) perhaps we could start writing our own and compare notes down the road. ---------- Post added at 22:35 ---------- Previous post was at 22:26 ---------- this may or may not help you (first post) https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/how-to-increase-your-fps-when-on-an-amd-fx-cpu.71533/ also i have been reading that there are some benefits to turning off cores 1,3,5,7 especially since A3 will not really use more than 2 effectively http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?157325-Poor-performance-even-after-going-from-a-8120-to-a-4670k&highlight=8120

well they are being honest OR here comes the reach around :(

I provided a base from which to start but there are variables to be considered as well...like how much of your current rig to you wish to reuse? HD,VID?,MEM? and i just did that for my mate..he is reusing everything except his MB,CPU,case and PSU so I spec'ed a MAXIMUS HERO mb a 1000W seasonic PSU a NZXT case and a 4670k ....all came in at $920 :) Everything you can reuse brings the cost down and the quality of components higher :) @whom ever moved my post, there is a reason i did not put it here...I wanted it to be searchable not just mixed in with a 1000 other responses.

mobil the die has been cast and you know that...i am a little angry because there are some things i wish to create but i know the engine wont be able to handle it :( that being said i watched 2-3 minutes of a BF4 preview and right back here i came :) its the only show in town at the moment and will just have to deal with the limitations. Now if i am around for ARMA4 (if there is one) and there has not been a major overhaul of the RV engine then i wont bother protesting...i just wont buy it.

**DISCLAIMER** This is not NOT a AMD VS INTEL thread! When I first got into computers they were too expensive for me to buy so I was always getting peoples older machines and seeing how far i could take them which led me to build all of my own rigs which has provided me with many valuable lessons :) like when I learned about cheap PSU's.... I heard a POP smelled smoke and my shuttle MB and vid card were gone :(. Over the years I have been a AMD builder because they were the best bang for the buck..sadly they have lost ground to intel which prompted my first intel RIG (see sig) that being said they are not bad chips its just that INTEL has the lead right now. I Have seen a number of posts recently with people wanting to play ARMA3 but having dated rigs or on a tight budget prompted me to spec a couple of budget options for those in need. I try to build my rigs with a strong back end(MB,PSU) for future upgrades, I generally follow a rule of "one and done" which means I upgrade the vid,CPU,ram and get a couple more years out it after that the rig is 3-4 years old and any more investment brings diminishing returns (unless I bought all top shelf to begin with). the following budget choices can be upgraded later to nice rigs but for now should be able to play alot of games at medium settings, some older games on high. first is the Intel rig (at the bottom are the common components shared by both rigs) Intel Core i3-3220 ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W Dual-Core $130 this a dual core with hyper threading and i have read ALOT of good reviews about this chip ASrock is ASUS's buget brand but are still very good board's ASRock H77M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $75 TOTAL=$600 now the AMD rig AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core $120 ASRock 970 PRO3 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $85 TOTAL= $600 Common components : G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $43 SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC $72 SAPPHIRE 100355L Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP $175 ($160 after rebate) Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard $60 Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower ( well ventilated case) $42 ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM $18 TOTAL=$410 for common components I always make the mistake of assuming someone has an OS they can use...if not add another $100 :(

if you are caught cheating this man will be sent to your house ;)

its all relative... :) i was on a server the other night and decided to jump on there TS....im pretty sure I am the same age as there parents ...lol (46) some things are timeless WCG...like when we are 18 we want an 18 year old girlfriend and when we are 80 we STILL want an 18 year girlfriend :cool:

also these are good PSU Corsair: Made by Seasonic Fortron/Sparkle/FSP Group: Stick with units whose model numbers begin with FSP; those that start with AX are made by a different manufacturer, and use low-grade capacitors. PC Power & Cooling SevenTeam SilenX XFX=seasonic

did you see the specs i provided? 2 things you need tobe careful of is A. the OS does it have a valid key? and B. what kind of PSU? a cheap PSU is a good way to fry your entire rig. ---------- Post added at 13:53 ---------- Previous post was at 13:52 ---------- as stated , your fine start playing :)

very true mate ;) perhaps i need tobe more realistic ;) good news..after were dead will be brought back....perfect! with an accent as well :)

how many players?

exo is not the future gentlemen.....this is ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6PPmyzIBNI

something is wrong here mate, the 3570 is over $200 alone and he selling the whole rig for 350 qwid, ontop of the fact that im not a fan of cyberpower as there PSU's dont have the best rep plus what video card? 5450....a little weak plus how versed are u in overclocking? its not for the faint of heart :) your second choice seems to fit the price range for it age but i would still suggest something newer, are you trying to sty around 400 qwid? ---------- Post added at 23:03 ---------- Previous post was at 22:20 ---------- @geordiegaz ,I did a quick spec at ebuyer in the UK and this is about as good as its going to get for 400 qwid, some one might spec you an intel rig but you will most likely be limited to the I3 series due to cost constraints. Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 Socket AM3+ 7.1 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard 50 qwid AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz Socket AM3+ 14MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor 95 qwid Antec 520W High Current Gamer PSU 56 qwid Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333MHz Memory 25 qwid PowerColor HD 7750 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card 75 qwid Seagate 500GB Barracuda Internal Hard Drive 40 qwid Lg Internal 24x Bulk Dvdrw 13 qwid Casecom CB-171 Mid ATX Tower Case 13 qwid is there a max amount you wish to spend?

$320?? I would double check to make sure all is fine and then buy it...thats dirt cheap for what you are getting.

I play on a dom server that is well run, i get 40-60 FPS on default (what ever arma3 chose when i installed game, high,ultra FXAA 8...etc) although tress will drop my FPS in to the low 20's :(

sorry mate, i was just stiring the pot :) these kinds of "debates" just end up on the merry go round :( people are going to believe what there going to believe and do what there going todo...unless you tell the same lie over and over again then it becomes the truth.....or so i have heard ;)

i did this spec a while back but the 965 is not available anymore :( the 6300 would replace it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286 here is the original post $500 http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?147391-Will-my-PC-run-this-What-CPU-GPU-to-get-What-settings-What-System-Specifications&p=2389735#post2389735

oh my...

nice work