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Yesterday I finally made my first series of flights with TOH and I have some comments and questions to share: Graphic Performance: I'm using a top of the line VAIO laptop, it has a i7 1.73 (4 cores, 8 process), 8GB ram, and a nvidia geforce 330M (1GB). To have a minimum of 20fps over any scenery I need to fly at 720x576 pixel resolution and almost any settings to low/disabled. Wings of Prey runs at 30/40 fps at 1280x720 with any settings at about medium/high. Same performance with DCS Black Shark. There is room for improvement guys, I hope this will be your first priority. Scenery: Awesome, I love it, some improvements can be made at the traffic, cars disappears when they arrive at a cross; the trees lower dramatically the fps, they need to be imrpoved or reduced, I would love to have a "Trees Density" slider in the option, and also a "Scenery density", not only visibility distance and object distance. Flight model: That's my favorite part, I love it. I just don't like how it shakes when there is turbolent air, it looks irrealistic to me but overall it's fantastic, congrats ! Freeflight In freeflight I would like to be able to see a helicopter list with a list of available skins, setup (payloads, fuel, passengers weight), a list of heliports/airports where to take off from, time of day an weather, just like when you start Flight SImulator X. (maybe it's possible already but I didn't see it, please let me know) Views Is there only "toggle view" to move from cockpit to external view or are there other views ? why not making a "view" category in the controls list, and the controls why are not sorted by name ? I will now try some online flying with friends and see if the fps goes even lower, I hope not... Thanks for the fantastic sim, I love it. I will post more comments in next days.

thanks, good info, I hope they are listening you... ;-)

How should I setup my vp to host a mission ? Thanks

Oh finally, thanks

thanks

ah ok very good, so for example, is it normal that when you start forward flight you need so much left stick and pedal to keep it straight ? I noticed this behaviour in rc models when flown manually but not so much strong ---------- Post added at 03:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:16 AM ---------- otehr question, does rotor pitch variation really need so much tail rotor compensation like it this sim ? ---------- Post added at 03:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:17 AM ---------- what do you pilot ?

I'm not a hely pilot, I pilot rc (remote controlled) helis for work, but they are a kind of flybywire, very different. I like this flight model because it's demanding, I don't like it when I try to hover, looks like it's impossible to me to keep it still, don't know if real helis are like that but having no difficulties to hover an inverted rc heli I don't see how I have difficulties to hover TOH helis in place (maybe I just suck piloting ahaha), but this is what I like, realistic or not, it's difficult, requires concentration, skills. Like in rc world, any aircraft is different, for now I just have fun flying again different helis, I hope they made it as real as possible.. and I would be very curious to know an opinion from some real heli pilot aswell.

thanks, I will probably buy it in few days...

I just love them all, in sims especially when they run above 25 fps... I go gliding once a week , fly complex uav almost anyday.. I just love flying. Aircrafts are like music, different songs for different moments.. all can be perfect, sometime Metallica, sometime Tchaikovski, they both kick me hard if the right moment, same for aircraft... can stop love them all.

Hi, are there built in comms in this sim or we need teamspeak or similar? Thanks edit: HEY FIRST THREAD !!!

thank you.

I understand how to set and release the trim while piloting but in some situation I don't know how to operate it correctly: 1- Normal manual take off, as soon as the helicopter hovers, it immediately tends to change attitude, how can I set trim correctly before take off ? 2- Take off with auto-hover, fine until I disengage it, any way to set trims to keep the helicopter as it was while in auto hovering? There is always that shaky moment when I disengage the trim, I would like to know how to use it.. Does autohover really exist in those real helis ? Thanks

It's a specific hely made for aerial videographt, it lifts about 2kg extra payload (8 engines, 4s6000mAh lipo)

there are many kinds for different uses, but they work well, takes some time to set them up right. A mix of magnetometers, gyroscopes, barometric altimeter, ultrasound altimeter, accelerometers, plus a compass and a gps system. Strong wind and the heli doesn't move more than a couple of feet from the desired position. You can do a full 3D aerobatic program with some of those.

candidate for what ?? I'm a player just like you. trying to enjoy this game.. like many others.. ---------- Post added at 01:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:28 AM ---------- may be because heli sim enthusiasts buy heli sims ? ---------- Post added at 01:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:30 AM ---------- that's how heli works.. it's not a matter of enjoyment. ---------- Post added at 01:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:30 AM ---------- I fly real airplanes, skydive, use simulators of all kinds from ultralights to fighters to civil helis to military helis... I pilot rc planes, rc helis, uav drones (my work), flight is flight, is always cool for me and I love this sim aswell, and hey I pay these products and this makes me the perfect candidate from the software hous point of view. ;-)

ah thanks, I hope it won't be too laggy

I still have to try but I'm planning to do team trainings soon so I was investigating about it. So is the multiplayer hosted on a server and not in my pc right ?

so will that iMac described above be good to play this sim ? (on win7 bootcamp)

even my small rc helicopter has auto hover with gps position lock, it's a 200$ device that make that possible in a rc model..

I just bought the beta and I'm using an upfated version of trackir, TOH is on my games list but it doesn't work in game... any idea? Thanks

This game needs more cpu/gpu than BlackShark ?? Have you got an idea about what a hell of a sim is Black Shark? I don't blame the game as you can read in my initial post ("Thanks for the fantastic sim, I love it"), I just say they need to improve performaces, and I'm sure they will do. Also Rise of Flight had very low fps at initial release, now it goes 3X faster.... It just takes time and feedback from customers, and some extra options to customize graphics (for example trees are lowering the framerate a lot, if I could only exclude trees or reduce their density it would be lot faster...) Thanks anyway for the suggestion about the graphic card, but I think the biggest bottle neck at the moment is software. I'm playing Battlefield 3 at medium high res with medium high settings right now and it goes very good as well... (not a simple graphic game...) I'm probably going to buy an iMac 27" for work soon, fo you think it's a good computer also for games like flight sims ? THis will be the config: 3.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB 1TB Serial ATA Drive + 256GB Solid State Drive AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5 Thanks

yes the video card and cpu are not super fast stuff but why then Wings of Prey or BlackShark runs very fast with medium hight settings and full HD res ? There is a lot of room for graphic optimization

Yes, go to option>controllers>select your controlle>set the sensitivity cure as you want (to the left is smoother on center area).

I fly at 720x576 to have a decent fps.. with everything setup at low/disabled...

I had to format the computer so I will test it tomorrow ... at least now I have a clean win7 install and everything should be a bit faster...