Stryker_1

No doubt, this person has been the champion of DR and if this is where he gets his much needed attention, so be it. Negative attention seems to be acceptable too, him coming to this forum is like the game "whack a mole", he is the mole and pops his head up here and gets a mallet to the noggen. I guess it's like a drug addiction, once the attention he craves is not coming from his familiar place, the attention here will have to do even if it means being rake across the coals. Calling everyone here a D_ _ K showed his colours. DR will be remembered for the fail that it is. Some may like it, but the fact remains it was not well received by most gamers and was a real disappointment.

Well said, it is the enthusiast or gamer that makes or breaks the overall success of a game. A developer can love what they do, defend it to the Nth degree and if no one buys it, praises it or plays it, what's the point!? It's like musicians that say they play for themselves, but most want their music to be heard and be well received, especially when it comes to making money. What I like about BIS is their business model which supports and works with the fans and modding community well after the sale. Between the mods and the many patches, the hours I've played with their games is well worth the return of my one time investment of $65. I will not buy any other CM software after their display of lies with DR and screwing over the community. BIS has done more than most other game companies with their post sale support.

This forum thread has been entertaining and the way I see it, I've had some laughs out of the disaster that DR is and my financial loss to DR doesn't seem so bad :D This has helped me cope with that loss...lol

Hmmmmm, not quite sure the purpose of this video. I will agree with others about your dedication and enthusiasm to make the game for those that like it better. It's too bad your enthusiasm was not invested in the ARMA II modding community. I will never like DR for sole reason that it's a console port and played with a game pad. Not only that, there are far too many flaws and the game would literally have to be torn down and re-built...literally. ARMA II and BIS's software is just a superior product for what it is trying to be. Almost ten years of BIS software on my hard drive....hmmmmm, says it all for me.

Well said, that is the big picture. Right people in the right roles. Let the programmers build the engine, while the story is done by a great author and the artists do their magic with the graphics, and let the other roles bring in the money to make more games....there is a synergy going on here. Dr didn't have the above formula, they missed on the graphics, technical (console port) and story, lame product brought to market.

Nah, can't entirely agree with you on this one. A company needs all components (good team to be successful). Your point about the artists, developers etc....is valid and I agree. The issue with CM and DR was based on false marketing. They made promises that the developers could not fill. Here is a point for me. If I was to advocate a product and market something that was to be a sequel to Operation Flashpoint, I would have conviction in BIS being the developer and I would feel more confident in selling it. Why? Because they were the original developers and it was successful. CM gambled on the name and the promises, screen shots, trailors. None of it was delivered. No way would I put any weight into CM. The fine line here is that in business, you have to sell and market, but the thing is man, you better deliver. The customer is king and they'll let you know. I wanted DR to be a good thing and I was sold on it, but as far as I am concerned they did not deliver. I agree that the talent lies within the team members of the project. But it is also the talent of marketing to reach your audience. Just don't exaggerate and lie to a point like CM did with DR, you'll get caught and it'll bite you in the rear.

Been playing BIS software since OFP and I never get tired of it. With ARMA II, it keeps evolving in to something better. Almost 10 years, man I can't even begin to think how many hours...LOL

Basic business 101, supply and demand. The ship will sail if the product sells. Investors see the console market as $$ opportunity and CM appears to be short sighted when considering their reputation as a good games developer. Quality can mean nothing as long as the $$ is rolling in. Look at the North American auto industry, imports have taken a big chunk of market share over recent years. GM always had a philosophy "We Build It, You Buy It" That philosophy worked when you sold everything you made, the quality took a back seat. Consumers in the console market want nothing more than a quick fix and eye candy. Their expectations are lower and the trend with trade ins/ups for console games is working. Buy said title for $65-$70 and once bored with it trade it in for credit and move on to the next. DR great example, I have already given mine away, and I was in EB games the other day, the amount of used copies...LOL...I have countless PC games that I bought years ago and still play to this day. BIS's software is one of them. I have bought BIS's product because it is a PC game and love this kind of simulation. Also because their name is stamped on it! I now watch carefully who the developer is and now really discern before I purchase any game. The crap that is out there :confused: It's interesting that BIS has stayed the course with their business model. BIS has already noted in an interview that they will have to be in the console market for survival. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgkkkKgRSU4 At 4:16 It'll be interesting to see where the games market is headed. Thankfully we'll have ARMA II + Operation Arrowhead + Community for years and years :D

Talk about reading between the lines, this would be a cool mod for ARMA II. Hopefully this gang of members aren't DR diehards and will be open minded when "reviewing options for game platform that might base their mod on"..., what options, it's right here..LOL

This is where DR failed from the get go, how can a PC game like the original Operation Flashpoint work the same magic in the world of consoles. Let's not even mention ARMA & ARMA II :confused: Very rare do I find a game made for all platforms that I think has succeeded on the PC. I enjoyed Dead Space & Gears of War for the PC but I would've enjoyed them just the same if I had them for my PS3. I fear for the future of these types of games for the PC because even BIS has stated in one of their interviews that the console market is an area they have to look at for survival. Sad fact, but true from a business point of view. DR is another example of a poor quality title that is souless and are based on hype, eye candy (not that there was any in DR) and marketing. Thankfully ARMA II to is heavily moddable for long term use :bounce3:

Agreed, ARMA II is catching on and why stop the snowball effect. CM has marketed ARMA II in an unintentional way...BIS is now appreciated even that much more thanks to CM....lol. On an upwards with Operation Arrowhead!

^^ Yeah agreed, I equate that mission as a defibrillator that is trying to resuscitate something that has been declared clinically dead long ago.....I just read the forum thread over at CM about the LOD or the FOV for DR cannot be changed, I feel for the diehards that got this bad news. To anyone; I use to have a problems on occasion with ARMA II where the Razor Team's heads looked like mannequins and eventually the head details would draw in....anyone else seen that before? Is that a video card thing? I think it might of been fixed in the last patch but I haven't played much since. Could this be a similar problem like the headless thing?

Beating DR to the ground has reminded me of an episode from The Simpsons where Scratchy chops Itchy into chunks and the chunks come back as several little Itchys and then Scratchy chops all those little Itchys into a pulp and that pulp gets chopped so much that it becomes nothing but a pile of mush and then starts to steam...lol....when will the beating stop....LOL...I think DR has tapped out already.