SeamanStaines

I like BIS, and I like the Arma series. But this time, I don't think they have done their best. I don't think they put in enough content and enough effort to justify the price.

Is it just too much to ask that they put some effort in before presenting a product that is half the price of the Operation Arrowhead?

It's not a stupid claim. Basically, BIS have just rebuilt stuff that was made by other people for VBS2, without actually doing any more research and referencing. Yes, they are will within their rights to do it, but it's pretty poor quality DLC if they can't bothered to research anything themselves. The content made by modders is much better quality, personally, I'm just going to use that. I'm just disappointed, I was completely prepared to pay for DLC if it was the quality that BIS usually give us, I just expected more.

The mistakes that UKF made in their models are repeated in the BIS models, because BIS only used the UKF models as their references. Instead researching, they've simply rebuilt their own models while looking at pictures of UKF content, repeating any mistakes they have made.

I'm glad they are including all engine features in patches. That definitely makes the situation much better than I thought. It says it's a short campaign in the first post. I didn't say that they have used UKF content, I said they used UKF content as references. BIS have communicated with UKF, and have said that they used their stuff as references when UKF asked them about it.

Shouldn't IED's and other game functionality be included in patches? It's the kind of thing that should have came with the game considering it is basically Afghanistan. I'd be willing to pay £10 for a full set of British units and a small map in the DLC pack. But this DLC is just half a force, a short campaign and a couple of really cool features that we should have had from the start. Not to mention the fact that BIS admitted themselves that their only references for most equipment in this DLC is from P:UKF content.

Sorry, I edited the post to include that, but it was after you'd posted. What I said though, was personally, I was hoping for a full British Army force, and a small map for £10. Not half a force, a tiny campaign and some extra core gameplay features for £8. ---------- Post added at 02:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:35 AM ---------- And besides, if they didn't release a game full of bugs, they wouldn't have to patch it. Instead of paying their employees to finish the game before release, they are paying them to finish the game after release. ---------- Post added at 02:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 AM ---------- Anyway, I love the game BIS has made, and they've done a good job so far. But my opinion on the DLC is this; too much for too little, and including new functionality in DLC is wrong. I'll leave it at that.

I'm not going to buy it if that is the full unit list. I'm just saying that I'm disappointed is all. I was looking forward to BIS DLC; I was hoping that maybe BIS could show other companies how DLC should be, but it looks like this DLC content is going to be just as bad as most other games companies DLC. Overpriced and rushed, purely made for milking a quick profit. I'm also a little concerned about the inclusion of new features in DLC if they aren't going to be included in patches. Including important new features in DLC instead of patches is basically like making us pay for patches. Increased functionality for engineers and artillery is stuff that should be included in patches because it should be part of the main game. DLC should be everything extra that isn't core to gameplay, like shiney new armies and and maps.

This really needs a Challenger 2... I don't know how it can be called complete without one. It also lacks any support trucks. I think that £8 is too much money for an army DLC when we don't even get a full set of units. I'd say this DLC pack is worth half of what they are asking. We already have Lynx's, Merlin's, Jackals and Warriors, and we already have good quality British skins and Weapons thanks to the efforts of this communities great modders. Give us trucks, give us a main battle tank, and give us a selection of light vehicles which aren't just an after thought and a quick cut corner, then we can call this quality DLC, and then maybe it will be worth the steep asking price.

I'm new to making missions/scripting in Arma 2, but I have some basic knowledge. I'm trying to edit a version of Domination for our community, nothing major, just to change the weapons crate a little, and add in some vehicles on a respawn script. I have a couple of questions... 1. Which is the script for the ammo box? 2. How would I apply the Domi vec respawn script to any vehicles I add?

It would be nice if we can get an invisible ruck so we can use the new Bundeswehr units without having ACE rucks clipping into the rucks on the model...