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Thank you very much for your time. I will check everything.

I dont want to argue m8, but can u pls take a SH of task manager showing proceses. Becouse on my system with 4GB of ram u it does not use more than 1GB. How much ram do you have? There is difference 2vs4 core, but not much difference on 4+.

Are you aware that engine isnt using more than 1GB of ram? Are you aware the game does not properly use all cpu cores (i mean there is benefit but not huge one, and there are people with gulftowns and x6 phenoms here, no difference for them on 4+cores), and as far as i know 8 cores is maximum. (i have 1.07 patch, and i read the blog) I am talking about future. DX 11 is future. I know it will be huge learning curve to use OpenCL, but u realy need to. Im shure you know your market, but if you do that, imagine people just need to buy better video card to run game better, not whole pack, like now. And, im engineer (electronic systems and tech), on a way on geting master of science degree, and im very interesting in weapon systems (2nd generation anti aircraft).

Well i dont realy care. But all i want is to use all resorces we have. Make it x64 only, so it can use huge ammounts of RAM, not like 1GB it uses now. -develop it to use more than 8GB of ram. Make use of multicore, it is obvious that multicore is Future. Design the engine to use 16 core cpus and more. -When developing, use opterons, they have 12 core, i think even 16core is coming out soon to test it. Try to use dx11 for calculating physics, and AI. It is allot cheaper even to buy most expensive gpu, than to upgreade all. And this game doesnt use gpus to their full potential. I just hate the fact that even if i get the most expensive components (cpu, gpu ram), overclock them and still i will have low fps at some parts of game, not becouse limitations of components, but becouse game engine doesnt us it to their full potential.

I think we will need to wait for atleast 1 more generation of CPUs/GPUs to play this game at more than 30fps in big fights and cities. I am huge fan of series and i play arma2 but i just dont understand how it works. All the time i thought game was cpu bound, and when i run this game with same video settings (arrowhead demo benchmark), i get same fps at 3 and 3.6GHz wit q6600. 38fps with 1600VD 100% 1680, everything very high exept postprocesing(disabled, i dont like it), and antialiasing on high. I get even 60 fps on some places, 41 with same settings in benchmark 1 in arma2. But what i realy hate is performance in big cities, damn fps drop to 20. Using deduction one would say it gpu bottlenecks there, but no. Even if i drop everything to very low, it doesnt change more than 1-2 fps. And that is beyond logic, waching task manager rearly shows spikes to even 70% of cpu usage. Point is, even if i sell my pc and i pay 1000$ more, i dont belive i can play and run warfare, or play in elektrozavodsk with no sub 30fps. My system q6600 go @3.6 (9x400) 4GB ddr2 pc 6400 , ati 4850 volt moded, and clocked

I think PSU cant handle this. And add phase cooling :)

Is there any system that can run this game without framedrops to sub 30? In benchmark2 or in elektrozavodsk. Do you think next gen cpus/gpus can run this game at vsinc? I think for 2 more generations of cpus and gpus, and then maybe.... I have q6600@3.6 and ati 4850 (volt moded and overclocked), and still at some times i get sub 20 fps ŽŽ(no matter the video setings@ 100% 1680*1050). I just want to play warfare hosting it from my PC and with min fps of 30 (biggest firefights, latter in the game).

I would like to know that 2. Pls, someone with phenom 2 x6, or gulftown answer is game running better with new patch.

As far as i know, and i have BC. sc. in electrical engineering and IT (but i am not programmer, still i passed alot of computer languages...c/c++ ARM 7 assembly VHDL, matlab and others...). As programmer of windows apps u dont have acesss to RAM (physical). U have access to virtual memmory, only windows have access to real ram adresses, so windows will at any moment in time determine how much space in real adresses they will allocate, and how much they will put in HD. As far as i know when u program in any programing language win app u start your code from 0 adress space, and it is not real zero in physical ram (for any program or sub program), and then windows will put it at real physical memory adress that is free and that they see fit at the any point in time, or in PF. I dont think you can chose to order windows where you will put your data (i mean order them to prefer RAM or PF). For example, it is easy in c to use pointers and mess with adress space, and every n00b programer could crash windows, by adressing and using real RAM space where OS kernel IS. Example: part of windows KERNEL code is on adress FFFAA1111, and n00b writes pointer in win app that meses with that adress. OS programers are not idiots, so they writed the kernel and memmory management, and u DONT have access to real adress space, becouse you could crash windows. Maybe im wrong, but that is what i learned and i was told, and once again im not programmer

I just cant play campaign cos of performance, i will play it when i upgrade my system. It isnt unplayable on my machine, but i like to have FPS > than 30. It is like downloading a new movie SCREEN from internet, you just ruing the fun....bether to wait HD :P

M8 you have 3 year old CPU, that even when you bouth it, wasnt realy high end. My friend on athlon x4 and 5870 has 14 (1680@100%). U want better performance regarding minimum fps? Buy i7 and clock it as far as it goes, as with your video card, u can max most of video settings and it will work just us it works with your setings. Benchmark2 is stress test, there realy aint pcs that can get even 30fps on that test.

I would call it stress test, rather than benchark... M8 your system isnt low end, i think it is a mid range system. Clanmate has same cpu + 5870 and gets 14 fps, in second test. This second test realy points that minimum fps in arma2 is cpu related. 1680x1050/1680x1050 View Distance = 1600 Textures = Very High Video Memory = Very High Anistronopic Filter = Normal Anti-Aliasing = OFF Terrain Detail = Very High Objects Detail = Very High Shadows = Normsl Post Processing =OFF B1 34fps B2 13fps E6600@3400 MHz 4GB Ddr2 800, 4850 You realy need i7 @ 4.2+ Ghz to play arma2 in big cities and hughe battles without laging. Sadly that is the fact. I think we will need 2 generations of cpus after i7 to play it at vsinc. Just like OF, or FSX (there is no system today that can run it at 30fps+ on large airports, with everything maxed, and it is 2006 game). But this is greatest game there is and runs good most of the time even at my 2006 mid range PC. :)

Lol! Read some books, or google about programing and memory allocation. Probably u will trigger securom and/or fade.

But what is point of reviewing the vidiocard using a game test unless u write with what setings and where (meaning, what demo u used, or test) u used. Bit offtopic... There is no pint of testing video card such as that at resolution such as 1280, that implys he doesnt know anything about how games work or perform. As there is corelation between video resolution, cpu usage and gpu usage. Meaning that it is pointless testing GPU at low resolutions (CPU bottleneck), or CPU at high resolutions (GPU bottleneck). He doesnt know basics.

What i s wrong with this review, is that n00b that wrote it didnt even write what setings he uses (atleast he could take screanshoots). Another point that he is a n00b is that he tests at 1280*1024 resolution high end video cards. Just n00b reviewer, he even tests crysis warhead at gamer setings. IMO he probably tempered with both 3d rendering at 200# and AA maxed.

M8 no offence, but that thing wont be good for arma2. Seq read and write are not important, and they are low on that thing... Just check random read and write here http://www.legitreviews.com/article/877/4/

M8 you are totaly right, i dont think there is even a point in more than 4000m, and no cpu today can play fixed 60fps, with this setings... Maybe gulftown (6 core 32nm nehalem)...

I had exactly the same problem. I changed 4 routers (scientific atlanta cable modems), to find out speakin with a friend on SKYPE, that there was interesting corelation of my problems and skype. With latest SKYPE i cant play any game. Maybe some software is cousing your modem to behave wierd like skype is doing on my scientific atlanta

Well 2nd is better. But... Dont buy i7950, rather buy i7920 and decent air cooler, like noctua, or megahalem u mentioned... In second confo u can set up ramdrive to put all the game in it and run it perfectly. Go 12GB If u realy cant change the system 2, buy it and then buy just some decent air cooler, (like 50$ more). :)

Well, meybe your 2x 4870x2 are faster than his 5870 in crysis or some other multi gpu optimized game, but im damn shure his single 5870 is faster than all yours in arma2.

Point is, if u have i7 1366 u can buy 6x2GB for 240$ and 12 GB is more than enough for whole ARMA2 in ram (and that is for people who are buying whole new system). And most people who have i7 1366 already have some RAM instaled so they need invest, like 100$ to fill al their slots up. This realy isnt so expensive as you might tihink in first place. And u can use it for more aplications than just arma2.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231307 This is good, CAS 7 and 1.5V

You are right, it needs to be unbuffered. Well it is a shame that unregistered costs more than registered (registered should be more expensive becouse it has buffer). I was courious and downloaded w3520 xeon and i7 920 datashet, and i was suprised it only supports unbuffered ecc /non ecc. Only diference should IMHO be that register that delayes 1 cycle, and that is extra component, so i just dont get why it costs more (i guess becouse low demand, and higher probability of error becouse higher density).

That was my idea, few months ago. Finaly someone done that, and prove i had pint:yay: But point isnt 5GB/s transfer of big files. It is IOPS and random disk iops. You can raid 24 SSD but you wil never get IOPS of ramdrive, and that is what makes biggest performance impact. -------------------------------------------- Anyway why turn off your PC anyway??? I use sleep, i have genuine windows 7 profesional x64 (from MSDNAA) and i rearly restart or turn off my pc. Even then u can with some programs create images of ramdisk, and make automaticaly saving images when you turn off your pc. Ramdisk is amazing, not only for gaming but for IT professionals (databases), photo and video editing. Enginering and and science (im engineering student and use matlab, and circut/network design software). And ram is so cheap. U can get 1x4GB ddr3 1333 for 120$. http://www.pricewatch.com/browse/system_memory/ddr3-1333_4gb for 480$ u can get 16GB of ram, and that is enough for most programs and games, and for that money u cant get 2 good SSDs.

I dont see even i theory why should u have any boost, becouse win32 kernel does not use swap file (virtual memmory) for application if it has enough of RAM to allocate.