Thanks for the responses all @Ice: I look forward to your mods, variation is good and yours sounds interesting. I beg to differ, PVP in this game is great. The combination of a slower paced battle, with the large map and human enemies is awesome. In BF2 my friend and I would try and stay together, and play as a "squad" covering each other etc. we would often die so quickly due to the fast paced nature of the gameplay that it was often frustrating to get all setup and *boom* dead. (the spawn on squad leader feature helped this) But in ARMA2 we can both gear up, hop on cycles and infiltrate a base together moving slowly and usually survive together for quite awhile - esp. with one of us as a medic. This game offers so much, that for me the PVP is fun, and thankfully many others find the coop fun too - the option to do both is great! ARMA2 rocks for these reasons IMO: 1. large believable world 2. ability to play the game as you see fit 3. plethora of weapons/vehicles 4. the control scheme is difficult to master, but awesome once you do For a game to hold lasting appeal, for me, usually fulfills most of these categories. It is why I LOVED FO3, Morrowind, WoW, STALKER .. and now ARMA2. Good work BiS - add physics and some polish to ARMA3 and you are contending for best game EVER!

Playing AAS pvp with a friend. The team was coordinated, the opposition was human! I was marveled by how awesome this game can be. I respect those users who play ARMA 2 as a coop super simulation, I personally don't have the patience for it. Domination is a constant "wait for chopper, die, repeat" cycle that really was starting to turn me off from the game. Fortunately I decided to try other game modes last night and I must say I was blown away. I felt like a deer hunter hiding amongst the trees just waiting to see man flesh appear from behind a tree. Give me more of this!!!!

Wow, thanks all! I didn't realize you could use the AI on the CO 6+ maps - giving me many many missions to complete. Cool.

Hello All, Does anyone have any insight on a two player coop map/campaign/multiplayer mode - basically I'm looking for a way a friend and I can experience the game together (without touching the bugged sp campaign). I've browsed armaholic, but most mp coop maps seem geared to 6+ players. Thanks

I have been having a GREAT time pvp'ing in this game. I don't dig coop, as I don't get a thrill from killing AI. (but I am trying, and can see its value, i'm just not there yet) There are only a few full PVP servers - but they have low pings (for me in WI), and the combat is INTENSE.

Very helpful - and much needed (for me). Thank you!

@galzohar I'm with you, I think Xeno was talking more about the over-the-top whiners and "kiddies"

@Xeno - I notice your name on a lot of maps that I play, please don't think the community doesn't appreciate, because we do. Your work in the ARMA series is amazing! Unfortunately the Internet is full of people who complain constantly, and have no gratitude for what they do have. But the silent majority is here, enjoying every minute of your creations.

I noticed what you describe last night, I was blown away. Very real deal. Thanks for the nice read.

Thanks alot! About #3 - i mean to ask, can I manually aim the cannon as pilot? Cycling through weapons is no problem.

Hello all, I feel fortunate to have found this diamond in the rough game, but I have a few questions about how to play. 1. I like PVP, and last night on a Hold game type I was convinced that Arma2 is the game I have always dreamed of. The feeling of being in war. Why don't more people play Hold? 2. What is the basic game flow of Domination? (What I mean is, starting new on the map, what should I be doing, in general?) 2.5. Same question as above, but about Evolution 3. In the USMC AH-?? chopper I can do "manual fire" as the pilot, can I also aim the cannon as pilot? 4. In the editor can I create an empty vehicle/plane that I can then fly. All I can seem to do is create one pre-loaded with units, or add myself as the pilot. I'm sure I'll have more questions as they crop up, any response is appreciated. Thanks