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Well, the only current side effect when quitting smoking is a certain jumpiness. Not very fond of sweets - but I drink (as usual) a lot of coffee. What has helped though are long walks with my dog (always done that) - longer than usual. I'm talking 3 to 4 hours every evening. Tomorrow my buss card needs cash refill. So I purosely forgot to bring cash and will have to walk for 1.5 hours to get home after work - only to walk my dog as soon as I unlock the front door! Yep, it's hard baby and I'm currently 33 years old and have smoked since I was elleven!

He was good at what he did! If he chose to end his football career with drinking and payed the price for it does it reduce his former achievements? People should do whatever they want to with their lives instead of listening to moralising idiots.

Rest in peace! The second true sportsman of the english isles to pass away within a few days.

Bush and his cronies should be sent to trial, found guilty for crimes against humanity and shot! Unfortunately it won't happen!

About a norwegian membership in EU I can say it won't happen anytime soon. The polls sway back and forth and the margins are small but when the question is actuallised it ends up on the "No" every time! It's just not likely as long as EU needs us or our resources more than we need them. The idea of being independend is very strong in Norway after being part of a union with Denmark for some hundred years and a forced member of Sweden for a short while. Besides, as long as there is a scarcity of fish and oil Norway can afford to stay outside. Funny thing is that when the fish farming industry is hit repeatedly by importrestrictions it still manages to get around it. A recent trend is to buy up scottish and chilean salmon farms. Even stranger is that when you buy "Scottish Smoked Salmon" you are more or less buying a norwegian farmed salmon smoked in Scotland. Personaly I couldn't care less as I'm both for and against membership. As long as we can afford to stay out of it I'm happy.

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Although I understand and partially agree with your sentiment I still feel you are trivialising the matter at hand. Drunk driving, suicides, traffic accidents etc. are more or less culturally dependant factors where general acceptance or public silence plays a part. More often than not it is also acceptable losses for the govenment as well as with the general public - excluding the relatives of course. So you could very well say the sad results are accepted end results where people are more or less allowed to drink and drive and where suicides are considered a private matter. In my own country for example one suspects that a large part of the traffic accidents are suicides - but no resources are channeled in such a way that it is prevented. Targeting areas of tourism - although insignificant compared to what happends every day in Iraq is significant! More so because it affects and touches the western world where we go on vacations and feel safe. The political killings in Belfast didn't take place in the borderlines between protestant and catholic suburban areas - it took place as close to the center as possible in those places to maximise the fear of uncertainty. Hence so called "doorstep killings" were very popular! Apart from that I agree with you but how can you complain about anything at all as long as people starv to death by thousands somewhere in Africa?

This is only one example How Swden helped and played a signigicant role in Germany's effort to conquer the Murmansk area! Norway certainly did what they could to send the norwegian jews to the "final solution" , but to claim Denmark did the same is an outright lie! Most of the jews that escaped to Sweden came from Denmark and it was a combined effort between swedes and danes. Don't forget the role played by the danish King and his people! Secondly, while I'm sure it's tough balancing on a knife's edge there are numerous examples of norwegians wanted by the german authoroties caught by the swedish border patrols and sent back to the certain death. This is something that changed when the germans luck reversed after Stalingrad! My maternal grandfather on the other hand was very gratefull for the swedish "white busses" who got him out of concentration camp and back to safety.

Bullshit - or maybe that is exactly what you would like to believe! Sweden had individuals who did a lot like Raoul Wallenberg but that was hardly part of the politics of the swedish government. The last years research make the swedish's authoroties efforts look even grimmer. Apart from that you should perhaps learn the difference between "not long after" and change of politics after the "turn of the tide" for the germans on the east front. After that you made a difference but don't forget that there exists quite a lot of mixed feelings towards the swedish "help" during the war. Apart from that I would say Jinef's version is the best one I've seen in a long time! Edit: Now, the norwegian people themselves like to remember how they fought the german occupants. Rather conveniently they forget the fact that the "boys in the woods" as they were called only counted a few thousand people in total and that many if not most people didn't give a shit about the deported jews. All they cared about was the occupation itself and many many thousands of norwegians did what they could to make a buck or two out of the situation. Infact, when the process of trials started in the post-war period they had to leave out most of the cases simply because they involved almost a quarter of the population. It's ironic that when the battleship "Blücher" sailed into the Oslofjord the commander at Oscarsborg fort didn't know if he opened fire on an english or a german ship. All he cared about was that it was a foreign warship. Norwegian pupils are not taught the above version. It is pensum on universitylevel!

Don't worry about the European Union, I have full plans to reinstate the Swedish-Norwegian Union, through an invasion at a suitable time  With today's oilprice we'll buy you long before it comes to that....

Good points Miles, but the main reason why they use slash and burn agriculture in the rainforests of south america and indeed on Papua New Guinea is first and foremost because the gardens regrow into being unmanagable to tend and because of snakes (papua new guinea) . You'd be surprised to see how soon the jungle reclaims it's grounds where hunter- and gatherers have practised subsitence farming.

There's a great difference between Java which happen to be the worst deforested areas on the planet. Slash and burn agriculture is almost always done by hunter and gather societies in the rainforests - and it's ecological because it actually refreshes the earth, although as you said it takes time to grow to the 3 levels/hights. In indonesia and Java where the rainforests are comparatively smaller you would find fertiliser to be positive because it secures the borders of the rainforests. You don't however want to bring fertilisers to the borders of the brasilian rainforests. Mining and logging is the main problem for the south american rainforests - not slash and burn which is the only way to grow what you need in the middle of the jungle. I don't think you would do "development work" with the indigenous population of amazonas

Just to correct a general misconception mentioned a lot. Poor indians/settlers who burn land to later grow crops are not to blame for the ecologic crisis. Quite contrary, what they do is very ecological because when the land is exhausted from their crops or their garden is getting unmanagable for further crops they burn new land - letting the old land be the most fertile land for new plants and trees. Logging however is to blame and it's the real threat to the rainforests. All that just to give us furniture, flooring on boats, and garden furniture.

The result of incompetence and bad training shows itself when so many men die. The weather is not to blame - as winter weather simply cannot be bad enough to train military personel. Idiots!

Well, I clearly remember some german ministers being in the headlines a couple of times...... But the fact that it didn't reach the wider US public is because US needed a scapegoat and what better goat to findt than the poor french ones who must suffer your boring "freedom fries" humour. Evil ridiculing is so much more entertaining for the stupid masses than the self critical eye.

The french are actually known for using their military and have done so more before and after WWII. Tchad anyone...

Yep, why else would they want the terrorist prisoners to be released? ....it could be that the reasons for the demonstration/uprising could be more than just black or white - terrorists or not? How about the economic situation, opression form the regime etc. And how do we know for sure that those in prison really are terrorists? Could it possibly be that they are labeled so by the regime in order to get rid of people opposing the regime? I have a feeling that the actual number of terrorists don't quite match the claimed number in that region anymore.... Regards Christian

Daddl, your picture says it all! There's a reason why most europeans are slightly unwilling to encounter another war!

.......plus you now get the Tiger instead of Panther thrown into the deal.

My grandfather was in the resistance, got caught and was sent to the Sachsenhauzen consentration camp.

.....but don't forget that he's planning on doing not only writing but also editing. Unfortunately this is a much harder task. That is also probably the best reason for him to choose Apple since its solution is better integrated than a third party programme will be. As I said I use Pinnacle which is the better system out there and I do A LOT of editing, but still - Apple's own editing tools are almost bomb proof as long as you have enough ram.

I'd go for the ibook - especially if you are planning on doing a lot of movie- and photo editing! I use Pinnacle systems on my pc and it works relatively well apart from the fact that the pc fucks up every now and then despite relatively good specs. When you buy ibook you get something called ilife which among other things provides you with the basic tools for editing etc. I've heard it's working very good although a bit basic. If you get serious about it you could always buy better editing tools - and apple's final cut/pro etc. are top notch stuff. Just remember to up the ram the moment you decide to buy the ibook. Next time I buy a new computer it'll be Mac all the way! For all purposes except playing ofp I deeply regret buying a pc! Regards and good luck Christian

Actually, piracy is currently a huge problem especially in Indonesian and south american waters. It's not very entertaining and not only do people loose large sums of money but lot's of people loose their lives too. It isn't made any better by the fact that usually you don't stand a chance because the ones who perpetrate these horrendous crimes are often the police themselves or someone protected by them.

To turn things a bit around I'd say that noone where I live would be angry with (ethnic) norwegians celebrating themselves with the national flag. Unfortunately, some of the (ethnic) norwegians would be insulted if people with a coloured skin waved the norwegian flag. Pure racism if you ask me! Some feel like discriminating people of other origins if they live in our country because they "are not trying to integrate - or be like us" . Turn it around ant it goes like this: we don't like that you try to be like us - because we don't want you to be like us! " A shitty world indeed! A lot of people in Norway seem to have forgot the lession learned when the poor jews were waved goodbye from the harbour of Bergen on route to Sachsenhauzen. Lession learned indeed - my ass!

I'm sick and tired of this forum nowadays. Yes, first of all I'd like to say that this forum has been my great internett revelation and joy the last years. I've made good friends here and have had interesting and informative debates going on. I've learned a lot and I'm happy to say that I sincerely like people I otherwise strongly disagree with politically - and I'm not talking about those IKEA people like Denoir! Fact is that I'm tired and bored of having to read through people's lack of creativity and intellectual capacity. What the fuck is wrong with us if we cannot read and write something interesting. I'm primarily interested in what YOU have to say - and if it's backed up by quotes and links that's fine. However, having to read over 3000 quoted words in a single post in the Iraq/middle east/European politics thread etc is a bit tiring and to be honest a fucking insult to my intellectual capacity - whatever it's worth. I do read the fucking newspapers, I do follow news in genereal, I am used to reading a lot and I don't need to be nannied through the last 2 weeks of news. It's causing me to loose my interests in this forum because I'm first of all interested in your views on things, not your lack of creativity and above all your "copy and paste hobby" . If you are so bloody good at it why the hell don't you start a newswatch agency and bore the hell out of companies with a fetish of seing its own name in the media! I've complained to the moderators about this before and the comment I was given was something along "that as long as the pasted quotes are interesting to read it's fine" ! Well, it isn't anymore! Ulysses by James Joyce is also interesting and fine - but not quoted in its length here. And because I can read myself I'd rather be informed of what you think of it yourself! I'm sick of it! Use your fucking brains and write something of your own for once my fellow retards! Sincerely Christian