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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nordin dk @ Mar. 11 2002,14:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well you don't need to, nobody does. But you react so strongly, as if we're accusing you as a person, of killing and polluting...<span id='postcolor'> No, I for one am just sick and tired of the bullshit that you all continue to feed out on this forum, it's almost as if you guys enjoying bashing the U.S. I mean have you ever noticed that whenever the U.S. does something wrong..well not neccesarily wrong..but in your OPINION wrong, within the hour someone on these forums has started a topic about it, and why the U.S. is wrong for whatever it is they have done? Notice that whenever another country does something wrong, it's hardly ever brought up or even talked about. Like when the Russians whined their asses off at the Olympics..you all said nothing..all you all wanted to say was that the Americans cheated because it was in America. Don't you ever stop and think that what you all continue to do is belittle your own country, I mean all it seems you all worry about it what the U.S. is doing, and it's almost as if you WANT bad things to happen...just so you can riddicule us, I for one am sick and fucking tired of it....so I'm not beating my chest i'm simply refuting the stupid comments that the majority of you seem to conjure up in that great brain of yours.

Whats argumenting???

Akira said: Civilians died yes and for that I am truely sorry. But we didn't purposefully target them. In fact we try to PREVENT them unlike the Taliban and Al Queda.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nordin dk @ Mar. 11 2002,14:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All these months, I haven't seen a single American  writing something to the effect of "Yes, I agree with you. Killing many people is wrong". All we get is selfrighteous chest-pounding.<span id='postcolor'> OMFG! read the fucking post above you twat!!! Did Akira not say that he agrees that killing civies is wrong, maybe if you'd take off thsoe damn blinders son you would see that everytime someone brings up that subject (which has been done over and over and over and over!!!!! everyone agrees that killing innocents is bad, but there is always going to be lives lost, I'm sorry but the majority of you seem to think we live in a prefect world..where bombs go where they are meant to go EVERYTIME. You all have played out your arguments, and they no longer have any standing..as you all use the same ones over and over and over and over and over and over!!!!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nordin dk @ Mar. 11 2002,14:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Tell me something positive, and you can begin to prevent more US-bashing. You never argue, you just pound your chest. That doesn't make it better.<span id='postcolor'> really? well I'm not one for arguments, discussions are fine...but arguments, no. It's odd how I'm punding my chest..but they are arguing? wtf? Like I said lets drop this BS, and stay to the original topic. I could write a book about Positive things that Americans do, but I really dont feel the need to gain your acceptance for my country, so

This is why the U.S. government remains to keep drugs illegal "This is your brain on Drugs"

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nordin dk @ Mar. 11 2002,13:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think we should all look at Avon's nice picture of native americans roasting marshmellows (I take it that's what it is Avon?) MurdaInc, if you want to insist on defending the blatantly destructive aspects of American society, be prepared to take the heat. Why not give us something positive in the present, instead of going on and on about how you saved our ass in WWII. I will tell you something positive about the American society: they have great orchestras. There, I did it <span id='postcolor'> American Society and American government are two different things. Our society isn't destroying the earth anymore than the rest of the world, and I'm tired of arguing about this BS..lets just let it stay at the original topic and not let a good one go to waste for once.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 11 2002,07:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, it was. For many reasons.<span id='postcolor'> care to elaborate? or is that all you have to say?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (R. Gerschwarzenge @ Mar. 11 2002,07:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You should not take things too seriously my dear American friend. And of course the amount of pollution makes difference. Your gunshot wound analogy didn't really fit in to this conversation. This would be better: It's more hazardous to smoke three cigarettes a day than just one. Â <span id='postcolor'> But, none the less it's harmful is it not!?!?! Are you not slowly killing yourself? does it really matter at what spee dyou do it, the end will be the same....

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 11 2002,07:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"I say more power to you, but the time will come when you will be in the same situation, and we will then see how you're great people who let WWII continue on for so long deal with it." Yes, surely our fathers and grandfathrs 'let' the war go on. Probably because it was so fun. Would have been interesting to see how America had done ALONE against Nazi Germany...<span id='postcolor'> Was it really OUR war to fight anyways??

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (R. Gerschwarzenge @ Mar. 11 2002,07:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 11 2002,14:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 11 2002,07:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Our cars take 5-6 liters per 100 kilometers, as your cars take 10-15.. And we don't have 3 cars per family.. These are just examples...<span id='postcolor'> They stil lhave the same effect!!!!!!<span id='postcolor'> But the effect is many times smaller!!!!!! Â <span id='postcolor'> Does it really matter?? "Well sir I only shot him once, instead of 30 times" The guy should not be sent to jail cuz he only shot the guy once! Hooray for your great thought! It doesnt matter you are still polluting the earth my firend, commencing your own demise, which you said would be our fault! this is that horse you ride so high on that I speak of, your country can do no wrong see. On top of that....Finland is such an economical powerhouse and all...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 11 2002,07:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Our cars take 5-6 liters per 100 kilometers, as your cars take 10-15.. And we don't have 3 cars per family.. These are just examples...<span id='postcolor'> They stil lhave the same effect!!!!!! oh well, have fun disscusiing how right you are, im out to go earn some good money and live the great life...just want to fulfill your stereotypes.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 11 2002,07:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's the smarter of the two who first stops punching.. So maybe you Yanks could have proved to be sophisticated and smart by signing that Kioto thing and not going to Alaska to pump oil? Added this: And maybe you could make smaller cars so you wouldn't have to bomb countries back to stone age trying to get fuel to those cool big vans and estate wagons..<span id='postcolor'> This is the bullshit I'm talking about!!!!! First of all Alaska is our land not yours, you say we bomb afghan for its oil, yet you dont want us to become independent and get our own oil..your contradicting yourself here! America's main threat now is the big oil countriues could easily pull out from under us and America would more than likly flop, thats whay we HAVE to drill in Alaska, and thats the reason Britain is being pussies and saying we should not go after Iraq, it's not about political correctness, it's because Britain needs oil too. I'm done talking all this BS with you all, you're are going to contiunue to belive this BS, and you are going top continue to think America will always be worng, you are going to continue to belive that we are just blood-thirsty idiots. I say more power to you, but the time will come when you will be in the same situation, and we will then see how you're great people who let WWII continue on for so long deal with it.

Oligo, you had better remove that evil piece of industrial space material from your avatar, being U.S. made an all, it's pure evil and is going to bring the earth to its knees, because it came from America of course. You know that even if America were to stop pollution COMPLETLY (yes I know its impossible and will never happen) that you will still have pollution due to the fact that America inst the only one who uses cars, power plants, etc. The funny thing is though, is that you only want to blame it on America. Why? thats my only question..why is it only our fault...why arent you doing your part to reduce world pollution!?!?!?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ Mar. 11 2002,07:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 11 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> "Ahh yes, you are right, it's not Sadamm, or Israel and Palastine, or India that are in your backyard playing with nukes,...but us. You better worry more about them then us fucking up your great life pal." Nope. Industrialized nations fucking up the planet is a much more credible and imminent threat than some two nukes some moron might have. "And the U.S. is not the only country that fucks up the air you breathe, China is much more indutrialized then we, as well is Russia, again the ones in your own very backyard, not us. I think you as Europeans need to get your own backyard under control before you go telling us to get our shit together." When it comes to pollution, there is but one back yard, because we all live in the same house. And would you really expect some evil not-a-beacon-of-democracy-and-freedom China to agree on reducing emissions if beacon-of-democracy-and-freedom U.S. hasn't done so first? Doesn't sound likely.<span id='postcolor'> So it's our fault though right!?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ Mar. 11 2002,06:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"But all you all want to look at is the bad policies which "plague your earth so badly"." I'm sorry man, but if you don't get your shit under control there won't be any earth habitable by humans left. Anything else is sort of secondary to that agenda, don't you think? "But yet we would probably more than likly have your ass whinging about why the U.S. should be feeding this money to other countries" I don't give a shit about how much money you give to some countries. You sure as hell don't give any to Finland. I care about you fucking up the air I breath and heating up the Earth I thread on and so on...<span id='postcolor'> Ahh yes, you are right, it's not Sadamm, or Israel and Palastine, or India that are in your backyard playing with nukes,...but us. You better worry more about them then us fucking up your great life pal. And the U.S. is not the only country that fucks up the air you breathe, China is much more indutrialized then we, as well is Russia, again the ones in your own very backyard, not us. I think you as Europeans need to get your own backyard under control before you go telling us to get our shit together.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 11 2002,06:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">murda said: that I should take your word, and your medias word over my own inellect??? What did I say? I said to think for yourself, not to listen to propaganda. What I have tried to say here is: Killing people is wrong. Americans proved that they are not better than the terrorists when they decided to strike back to a country that has, as far as I'm concerned, nothing to do with the terrorist strike, but instead has oil. With the term "americans" I mean the politicians, and the whole country, not you Murda, not any other individual.<span id='postcolor'> I know, it's just that sometimes I get REALLY annoyed by these forums, because it seems as if everything is against the U.S. and saying how wrong we are all the time, and all this other crap. It just seems to me that all the European countries have it out for the U.S. maybe not killing wise, but they think they know us so well..and can judge our every move, and tell us what WE think. I mean honestly how would you feel coming to a freakin game forum and having to put up with that type of shit? it seems tese fourms become more and more politically oriented on a daily basis. I for one would rather have more knowledgeable discussions with people at a Politically oriented forum or something along those lines. I mean hell this is a game, and people are talking about politics?? For all I know the people who think they know so much on here are just 13 yr old kids with a dictionary and a thesaurus on hand.

And I have one last question before I go, how many of you have REALLY been to America??? I mean honestly don't lie. And Don't tell me you've been to America because you visited one state, and becasue you came here once for a week or so. I mean have you ever lived here for a year or more? been to more than ONE state? Because if not then you are simply going by what you think AMericans are like.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (InRange @ Mar. 11 2002,06:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think people shouldn't diss the Americans like that. Sure, they're a funny people sometimes and can be annoying too. But never forget the fact that if they hadn't helped the Western part of Europe we would've been a bunch of rotten commies or worse. We owe the Americans for that and I as a European feel assured with the fact that America will be there to help us when we need them. I mean, it's just too easy to stereotype Americans.<span id='postcolor'> It's really to easy to stereotype any country, they are called customs and tradtitions. And it's particularly easy to pull apart a country and disect its every move when they are in the news.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ Mar. 11 2002,06:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 11 2002,12:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You really should take your comments and see that you are just as shallow as you say we are, I mean really think about it...you say we generalize...yet you are the one doing the generalizations, we are the cocky ones, yet it is your great country that apparently can do no wrong. Amercians simply defend themselves on this forum, we don't procalim how great and free we are...We aren't the ones who seem to think we can sit so high on our great horse, and watch over the wrongs everyone else does, it's you foreginers that like to do that for us. I'm waiting for the day the Europe has another Hitler on their hands, and can't handle it once again...but I'm sure the western countries will be their to bail your ass out as usual.<span id='postcolor'> It is funky how you totally fail to understand anything. I mean, I never have advertised how great my country is. In fact, I think the internal politics of Finland totally suck, you know, we are ruled by idiots. But that's the catch, my man, right there. The only thing our (finnish) politics affect are the internal workings of our country. So we'll just take care of those internally, ok? But the politics of United States of Freedom affect EVERYBODY on this planet, because you fuck up so many things and ocassionally hop around the globe bombing people. So if I want to discuss the problems plaquing our dear Earth, I start with the biggest problem, which is U.S.A. And I know how dear it is for you to think that your soldiers did jack shit in the WWII, but unfortunately the (to you) evil commie russians were the ones who mostly kicked Hitler's ass. Besides, who's going to bail out the world, which is plaqued with U.S. shit? The aliens?<span id='postcolor'> I only wish we knew what the world would be like with out the U.S. Because then you would surly be singing a differnt song. And no I'm not going on about how great the U.S. is, but the U.S. does a hell of alot more good for this planet then the majoirty of the rest of the world. But all you all want to look at is the bad policies which "plague your earth so badly". I wish that for once a president would stop sending the BILLIONS of dollars we feed into other countries to help their poor, sick, and hungry, which they turn around and stick in their own pockets, but thats a differnt story. I wish that for once a president would kepp all those BILLIONS of dollars for our country, our taxes would be reduced, we wouldnt have a national debt, we would have hardly any homeless, or hungry. But yet we would probably more than likly have your ass whinging about why the U.S. should be feeding this money to other countries, "because its our duty to help them, being the suppower we are" But I guess thats the beauty of it, we will never see this happen, and its truly sad, because maybe then the majority of you self-righteous bastards would appreciate us for once!!! You know what they say, "you never knew how bad you needed something until it's gone"

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 11 2002,06:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I consider myself as a part of  "western" people. I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just suggesting that people would think about things themselves, not the way that the media or politicians or other people want them to think about.. And talking about that Hitler thing.. I think that you Yankees have that guy as your president now.. I just don't know whether to  or  ...<span id='postcolor'> He may not be the best president, by far. But I think to compare him to Hitler is nuts. Thats the problem, your media portrays this war like the Middle-east does. They think we are here to wipe out all Muslims, and middle-easterners, which is simply not true. This is NOT an ethnic cleansing campaign, that would belittle everything that America stands for. And I do watch the news, but what are you telling me... that I should take your word, and your medias word over my own inellect??? yea right, how do we know that it's not your media thats the wrong here? and don't tell me you dont read the magazine, newspaper, or watch the news. Because you would be cut off from all sources of knowing whats going on outside of your world! And the media doesnt have to form peoples opinions, thats another problem you all have...you think that ALL Americans think that Hollywood is History, and that we are all brainwashed by our media, which cracks me up..because you get aalot of our movies and TV programs. TV and Hollywood are both sources entertainment, and a source of reality...I dont watch the news, and then go out thinking well hell...I dont have tpo think for myself anymore, they have already told me the truth.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ Mar. 11 2002,06:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I also saw a picture of a man and a woman jumping out while holding hands, my heart sinks whenever I think about it. I ask myself: what were they thinking at that moment?... if it were a couple, then they were probably more in love at that moment than ever before..<span id='postcolor'> Ain't that the truth.

Whoa, Smauel L. Jackson is in this one? Thats hilarious. The movie does look very visually appealing though, I must say. I never saw Episode 1 though. The movie does look like I might have to see it though, even though I'm not a huge Star Wars fan. Everytime I see Samuel L. Jackson I will think of him in "Pulp Fiction" and his wallet that says Bad Mother Fucker, lmao.

Oh god, here we go again, the same shit that has plagued these forums for the past 7-8 months. It's so funny how we as Amercians get generalized by these forums, I'm almost starting to believe it myself...that I'm just a cocky American who has no thoughts, worries, or feelings outside of my great free life in America. When are you Europenas going to drop this bit? I had a thought the other day, that after we kicked Britains ass in the Revolutionary war..we should have taken our armed farmers back to England and colonized it as well, then you too could call yourselfs cocky Americans, Muhahahahahaha. You really should take your comments and see that you are just as shallow as you say we are, I mean really think about it...you say we generalize...yet you are the one doing the generalizations, we are the cocky ones, yet it is your great country that apparently can do no wrong. Amercians simply defend themselves on this forum, we don't procalim how great and free we are...We aren't the ones who seem to think we can sit so high on our great horse, and watch over the wrongs everyone else does, it's you foreginers that like to do that for us. I'm waiting for the day the Europe has another Hitler on their hands, and can't handle it once again...but I'm sure the western countries will be their to bail your ass out as usual.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ Mar. 11 2002,05:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Mar. 11 2002,10:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I also saw a picture of a man and a woman jumping out while holding hands, my heart sinks whenever I think about it. I ask myself: what were they thinking at that moment?...<span id='postcolor'> They were probably thinking: "The difference between suicide and martyrdom is press coverage. And we got aplenty of that."<span id='postcolor'> What a bastard..... I'm sure they were thinking what stars they would be while they jumped out you prick. But in a more sensible manner I think that they felt death would be much faster and easier jumping from 100 stories than to burn to death, or even worse be caught in a falling building and live to suffer to your own death, it's really sad how some people think these days.