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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WKK Gimbal @ Mar. 12 2002,21:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Speculate on this movie-quote: "God has a hard-on for Marines, because we kill everything we see!" Funny, however ... some people actually think that way.<span id='postcolor'> Private Pyle!?!?!? What the fuck is that doughnut doing in your fucking foot locker!?!?!?!?!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Angry Radish @ Mar. 12 2002,09:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have a dreamcast(now defunct), a PS2, and an X-box, and I say stay away from the X-box for now, unless you'r only into sports games. The graphics are great, as well as teh framerate, and there are a COUPLE of good titles, like HALO, but there aren't enough games out to even think about getting one yet. I grabbed one as soon as they hit the stores here in the US, played HALO and loved it, then after the next few titles, I started looking for something new, but all I could find were VERY poorly rated games. The X-box will definatly be the console to have if they would just put out some good titles on it. It's superior to the other consoles, but without good games, it's going to die.<span id='postcolor'> I agree with that right now, but have you seen how many games are already in teh works, hell just this month alone 15 new games are being released. By summer '02 there should be another 100 titles ready to play. I'm really waiting on "The Matrix" though, looks sweet.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,09:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Your analogies suck" Nah, that analogy was rather good. Basically you first accept what someone says / does, then they do something you disagree with strongly and suddenly whatever they said or did before has no meaning. That is an odd way to look on things. "No, but if a man acts like he knows something, and spews forth non-sense, and he thinks he's right, and then continues to call something an "axle" of evil (when he claims to follow the war so well) it just proves he neevr knew wtf he was talking about in the first place." He has simply confused 'axle' with 'axis'. A language problem. We don't nag on your farked up spelling, so you shouldn't nag on language skills. Hell, English / American is even supposed to be your native language, right?<span id='postcolor'> I average 65WPM, and I dont spell check, when I'm flying on my KB i dont have time to check every word. so I'm guaranteed to have some typos bro. theres a diffrence between idiocy and typos though

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ Mar. 12 2002,09:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ Mar. 12 2002,15:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Was 9/11 shown in Europe or anywhere else?<span id='postcolor'> You mean recently? Well, our belowed media that shapes our twisted minds did mention that the yanks had their 6 month celebration... I mean mourning of the little shit that went down in WTC. So yes we know. Anyway, I'd just love to know how the mighty U.S. would have reacted if somebody mowed four planes to Helsinki (our capital) and killed 2500 people. I'd also like to know how we (the finns) would have reacted to that. Would there have been a frenzy of self pity and a bunch of choirs singing Maamme Laulu on the streets?<span id='postcolor'> I know what you all would do,first you pussies would would hide in your homes, cross your fingers, and think that everything would pass and you would ok. Then you would ABSOLUTELY ask the U.S. for help NO DOUBT about that! I hope you die in your sleep

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NEO [PZ] @ Mar. 12 2002,09:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When does HALO come for PC?<span id='postcolor'> Thats the beauty of Xbox, with the PS2 it takes a long series of complicated code in order to convert PC games to PS2, with the Xbox you change 1 or 2 variables and it's ready to ship. But to answer your question, I dont think you will see HALO on the PC. But HALO 2 is already being worked on..and that will more than likely be on PC. Now i'm not absolutely sure that HALO isnt going to be on PC, thats just my guess. But if M$ was smart they would release it on PC...the game is so freakin awesome!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 12 2002,09:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Don't try to grab down to the mud where you must be..<span id='postcolor'> See what I mean Longinius? First we have an Axle of Evil, now we have him making his own "sayings" thats dont even make sense, you can blame it on poor translation.....And I can dress up in a pink drees and call myself suzie (just showing how much sense his saying made )

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,09:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But you thought it DID have merit before? Then he says something fucked up and it doesn't have merit anymore? How odd... So, if I write a book everyone accepts and agree with. And then write another one few agree with. That first book is worthless?<span id='postcolor'> Your analogies suck No, but if a man acts like he knows something, and spews forth non-sense, and he thinks he's right, and then continues to call something an "axle" of evil (when he claims to follow the war so well) it just proves he neevr knew wtf he was talking about in the first place.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 12 2002,09:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I know what I'm talking about. you don't even know what you are saying, you just have to push me down, because I have hurt your feelings.<span id='postcolor'> I'm going to form my own AXLE of evil!!! You have hurt my feelings? Your a big bad mean guy, stop threatwening me..or you'll regret it bad man! Please close this thread, it has gone to shit, or shall I say..these pieces of shit have made it crap???

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ChickenHawk @ Mar. 12 2002,08:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hard to get away from the damn thing, its in every shop I go in. Is it just me or isnt the X box released in the states? Why would it be in brit and not the US?<span id='postcolor'> For once a product actually came out in the U.S. before Japan, heh!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Mar. 12 2002,09:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Never felt any of those games could come near a PC-game!<span id='postcolor'> the Xbox is pretty much a PC in it self. It has a Intel 733MHz Processor and a Nvidia GPU, and a harddrive, so it is a PC. all you need is a good tv and your set, well you cant upgrade..but its faster than the majority of peoples PC's. I own one, and a PC...and I must say, visually there is no diffrence. Now you cant upgrade a console, but theres really no need. Plus on a HDTV ready TV, it can almost be better than a PC. Plus the only thing that is diffrent is that you cant DL upgrades, patches, etc. but I'm sure you will be able to in the near future...not on the Xbox but a future console probably. And I like it when people call products that they never owned pieces of shit, go hop on the band wagon to teh guy who said Xbox was just overhyped MS crap.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 12 2002,08:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And this should be closed because we support terrorism? Right? We are in the axle of evil?<span id='postcolor'> yes, an AXLE of evil!!!!!!!! Anything you have ever said has no merrit now, wether it be true or not. You dont even know wtf you're talking about!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 12 2002,08:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm done for awhile, I get to angry after reading through these forums..it almost makes me want to run for president then bomb your country and kill all of you Hey, the boxing offer still stands. Although I normally do not beat people who can't defend themselves.<span id='postcolor'> I'm 6'2" and 215lbs. I really doubt you're skinny Swedish ass could do anything to me sweetass. Go skiing or something you lame ass.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 12 2002,07:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's propaganda? You used the American-heros-who-died-gladly-for-the-right-thing here like 15 minutes ago.<span id='postcolor'> Where?? Jesus I would really like to box you SOB. I must go...I'm going to start breaking shit UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,07:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"I'm sorry but you all are using civilain casualties as propaganda buddy. How is it not propaganda? Your using it to tell me why the U.S.'s cause in the war is wrong, IT IS PROPAGANDA.....plain and simple. And teh deaths over ther have been GREATLY exggageated....escecially by the folks on this forum, so yes IT IS PROPAGANDA, but of course you'll never tell me that im right...cuz you are all knowing." I never claimed to be all knowing. I have even admitted being wrong on these forums more than once. So you think a death count of around 2 500 -+ Â a couple of hundreds is to much? (deaths from direct American and Northern Allience interventions)<span id='postcolor'> There havnt even been anymore than 1,000 civilian deaths over there...........

I'm done for awhile, I get to angry after reading through these forums..it almost makes me want to run for president then bomb your country and kill all of you But hey according to you thats what we do now You better hope I never run for president or first I'm going for the brits, then the swedes....I'll leave the mexicans and canadians alone though. I'll do it the good old fashion way though..none of this diplomacy shit where I would declare war..I would just launch a barrage of nukes and you would never know what happened. Oh well let me calm down and I'll come back later before i have an annuerism.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"just like Afghanies and you guys use civilain casualities...thats propaganda wether you want to admit it or not! The whole WTC is a means of propaganda....so I could really care less about hat." prop·a·gan·da  n. information made public, esp. by a government, to persuade people that s.t. is true and worthy of support: During the war, the government published propaganda about victories of the troops when in fact they were losing battles. -v. propagandize. How can you call the number of civilian deaths propaganda? If it is greatly exadurated, then yes, its propaganda. But if one tries to get an accurate figure you surely cannot call it propaganda?<span id='postcolor'> I'm sorry but you all are using civilain casualties as propaganda buddy. How is it not propaganda? Your using it to tell me why the U.S.'s cause in the war is wrong, IT IS PROPAGANDA.....plain and simple. And teh deaths over ther have been GREATLY exggageated....escecially by the folks on this forum, so yes IT IS PROPAGANDA, but of course you'll never tell me that im right...cuz you are all knowing.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 12 2002,07:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 12 2002,13:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,07<!--emo&)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.io.com/~patrik/gulfwar1.htm http://www.io.com/~patrik/gulfwar2.htm Recommended reading for those of you that think news media reports a situation as it is.<span id='postcolor'> It's funny how you back up your thoughts of false reporting in the media with more media! lmao, just because it comes from someone you think to tell the truth doesnt it make it so, hell thats pretty much what you're saying, and then you back up that saying with media, really confusing. I guess all we can really do according to your philosiphy is either a) go cover teh war ourselves, or b) be a pranoid SOB who thinks everyine is out to lie to him. I still just thinks it's funny that you back up fals reporting with someone elses reporting.<span id='postcolor'> You are right about that, but you are very naive if you think that what CNN reports has much correlation to what actually happens in time of war. I know this from first hand exprirence, when I was with KFOR in Kosovo. The official NATO (and hence CNN) reports of the accomplishments of the bombing campaign was pure fiction. This could range from exaggerations to plain lies. There were several complaints made from the KFOR command to the NATO Press Office about the fantasy reports that they made, but it didn't lead to any changes. The Russians pulled the same stunt on their reporting, but angeled in the opposite direction. CNN reported directly what NATO said, without any reviewing of the facts. Now, in Kosovo it was NATO in general that produced these incorrect reports, not just the Yanks. This is of course understandable that you need popular support for a war campaign, and propaganda has always been an essential component of war, make no misstake of that. As for the is Osama guilty, question, I like to quote Bush on that: "The United States of America vows to defeat whoever it is we're at war with. [snip] We are preparing to strike, directly and decisively, against you, whoever you are!" Well, the US had to do something after WTC, fast. Osama was the most probable perpetrator.<span id='postcolor'> I already pointed this out in another post..first of all I dont watch CNN, everyone knows CNN is the most bias news orginization there is. And the evidence is plainly there for Osamas conviction..Like i said to Longinus..you all simply like to argue for the sake of arguing, i could call you a fucking genius and you'd argue with me why I'm wrong.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 12 2002,07:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">thank you for proving how truly stupid you are. <span id='postcolor'> No, thank you.<span id='postcolor'> again, thank you....lmao.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,07:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Please note that I am refering to the propaganda aspect used during the Gulf War and not the incidents of the war itself.<span id='postcolor'> Oh...well hell Propaganda is always going to be part of a war, and the majority of the time full of false calims..thats why its called Propaganda, it's used to encourage others to understand why it you are doing what you are doing. I know the U.S. uses harsh means of propaganda, but so does every other country at war...thats a part of war. just like Afghanies and you guys use civilain casualities...thats propaganda wether you want to admit it or not! The whole WTC is a means of propaganda....so I could really care less about hat.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,07:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Your not doing anything on your own, your just taking what this guy tells  you and beliving it to be true" No, I am not. I have checked other articles, other sources. That is what you do when you want to reach a fairly reliable result, you look at more than one source (from more than one standpoint) and then you form an opinion based on what you got.<span id='postcolor'> Show me these other sources, right now you only have one...therefore you are beliving what is told to you....if you can show me more than 10 sources of info that arent related then sure..maybe you have something...but not very likely..but then again...you'll probably do a google search and come up with hundereds that you never even read.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,07:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That was not someone reporting. That was an investigation into news reported during the Gulf war. You are right though, that could be fake to. The sad part is, it is not. You don't have to read it if you don't want to, but I think some people will find it interesting.<span id='postcolor'> I dont have the time right now to read it, but I promise you I will later, I have an open-mind. But see your still doing what you tell us not to do, believe the media....the man who wrote it may have only done an investigation...but whos to say he doesnt feel like stiriing up some trouble, or just lying for the hell of it...I'm just going on the basis of what you tell me about the world news scene. Your not doing anything on your own, your just taking what this guy tells you and beliving it to be true

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,07:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"thank you for proving how truly stupid you are." Well, he is right you know. Atleast here in Sweden you cannot get sentenced on a confession alone. Proof is still needed. Most of the time the guy confessing can produce that proof though, if he truly did it. But the fact remains, a confession is not enough for a verdict.<span id='postcolor'> Money talks, his confession is not the only thing linking him to the WTC. The money can be traced back to him, and it has been. But again I must just be going on by what YOUR media tells me, because I did see this from the BBC., and American news. And he is ignorant for the rest of the comments he made.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,04:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Yes Osama can be Innocent til proven guilty, but I still hold my right to form an opinion as to his guilt. But the POW's were caught fighting in the war..so they are pretty much already guilty there." But guilty of what? Last I checked fighting a war was not a crime in itself.<span id='postcolor'> Gilty of Attempted murder, guilty of plotting to murder. Why do you stick up for these people? I think you argue just for the sake of arguing, you remind me alot of my little cousin, who is 6. He will argue to the death, even if you reverse theargument, he will find some way to try and argue with you about it.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LauryThorn @ Mar. 12 2002,04:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I really doubt the leaders of the world are just jumping into a campaign for a man they believe to be innocent. How do U know that they were just for this "man" or "terrorism"? Again, a mistake of yours What mistake? I am asking questions, so I can't make mistakes. women are no longer oppressed Did you know the islam law is still there? Women all oppressed still, as they are all around the world. People are still executed, by throwing stones at them. It's just your are quite ignorant and irritating to me. I wouldn't call me ignorant. I know exactly what's going on. I just think for myself, and not believe what people want me to believe. Yea I have seen plenty of evidence Tell me exactly what? what about the Video Tapes When you commit a murder, confession is not a valid proof.<span id='postcolor'> thank you for proving how truly stupid you are.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 12 2002,07:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.io.com/~patrik/gulfwar1.htm http://www.io.com/~patrik/gulfwar2.htm Recommended reading for those of you that think news media reports a situation as it is.<span id='postcolor'> It's funny how you back up your thoughts of false reporting in the media with more media! lmao, just because it comes from someone you think to tell the truth doesnt it make it so, hell thats pretty much what you're saying, and then you back up that saying with media, really confusing. I guess all we can really do according to your philosiphy is either a) go cover teh war ourselves, or b) be a pranoid SOB who thinks everyine is out to lie to him. I still just thinks it's funny that you back up fals reporting with someone elses reporting.