Satchel

The AH-64A isn´t cancelled, whenever i have time and motivation i´m doing something on it, i love this helicopter and i´m trying to get a good representation of it. This is the latest status of how it looks; As you can see it has underwent some changes in texturing, and there is still some work to be done. Reverse Texturing the AH-64 and M2 Bradley are tough jobs, because there are many tile parts, and many of them are mirrowed, making it very difficult. Ca. 60 textures need to be aligned so that rivets and decals on them fit with those on adjacent texture tiles, for relatively seemless results, as there are also lights and shadows on textures, no simple color throughout. I´m not making promises anymore i can´t keep, therefore it will be available when it´s ready in every aspect, i will let you know.

Once your kids will realize that there is no teletubbie land they will be very very upset . I know i was after watching Sesame street uncut for a couple of years, figuring out that no blue haired cookie eating beasts are living in our trash cans .

That make-up was very popular in the 80´s , but on closer examination it´s an effective camoflage pattern to blend in with teletubby land: .

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Go see a doc. He will probably run some ultrasonic or x-ray scans for clarification.

I guess the only reason why BIS put in impact fuse handgrenades is that they are easier to model; no complex calculations or timer for bouncing or rolling grenades needed. If a 3-5 sec. fuze fragmentation handgrenade is thrown correctly, the impact-detonation delay is to be neglected, thinking about hurling back a properly thrown handgrenade?- unlikely you will make it, because of a) fuse timing variations, b) you wouldn´t have a guess for how long the grenade already travelled, and if it has been thrown directly or shortly after the primer already ignited. If you are running away from it, you´re not only going to present a large surface for grenade fragments but also aimed rifle fire. The main purpose of handgrenades is to incapacitate OPFOR in cover and/or force them out so you can get a clear shot. In OFP handgrenades are a pain in the ass, i don´t know how often i killed myself with them while standing next to a tree or wall, trying to throw it without exposing too much, but they´re great for teamkilling, hehe. Now we don´t use impact fuze handgrenades, but does the U.S. use them? As far as the Field manual goes the M67 has a standard 4-5 sec timed fuze, so does the M68 probably. http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-23.30/ch1.htm

WRPEdit sadly has no Copy&paste functionality yet.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ June 09 2002,12:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's worrying me now is that, just like addons, we're going to being experiencing what might accurately be called the "Thousand Islands" disease. Everyone's going to start making Islands and then missions for specific islands and we're all going to have to start downloading numerous islands and addons just to play anything. I think I scared myself. <span id='postcolor'> The same got me worried as first rumours made the round that BIS would be handing out Oxygen, however look at it now, hardly anything oxygen made is getting released, the flood of addons just doesn´t happen. Currently every addon, made with or without Oxygen, is getting soaked up like there´s no tomorrow, even if the quality leaves alot to be desired. Once there are plenty of addons available the user has the freedom of choosing between them, the good ones will make it, while the not so good ones need to get better, or being ignored. There will be some "must have" essential addons, and some "casual" addons.

So far i made nearly 100 textures, several versions of each different ground texture to blend in with other textures, so that seemless transitions are possible between mountains, slopes, rough areas, runways, bases etc, and to give it a better variety when viewed from above (aircraft) so it doesn´t become repetative in terms of repeating texture patterns. OFP´s default textures are not particulary suited for the area i´m doing, so i have to start over from 0. I´m doing a part of the Yuma proving ground (Imperial Dam-Laguna AAF Area), as it´s no island it will be a fairly huge landmass with just a few tiny streams running through, 12,8KMx12,8KM of ground. I don´t expect it to be finished before at least a month.

It will take a while before user-made maps of similar quality to BIS´s maps will be available, the most time-consuming part when creating islands is to place textures, objects and actually make it look natural by blending them seemless, everything is needed to be placed manually, it´s alot of work and takes an insane amount of time.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MDRZulu @ June 08 2002,05:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Shugart and Gordon did set up a perimeter, yes they died but Durant was with them and awake the whole time and I have seen him say that they did on a TV show. Not only that they might have been recorded the whole time from the P-3's and recon helicopters flying up high.<span id='postcolor'> In the back of Blackhawk Super 62, Goffena had, in addition to his two crew chiefs, three commandos: snipers Randy Shughart, Gary Gordon and Brad Hallings. With Somalis closing in, he knew Durant's downed crew wouldn't last long. They were an air crew, not professional ground fighters like the boys. Goffena's crew gunners and the snipers were now picking off armed Somalis. Goffena would drop down low, and the wash of his propellers would force the thickening crowds back. But the men with RPGs were slower to take cover, and his snipers were picking them off. Goffena also noticed that every time he dropped down now, he was drawing more fire. He heard the ticking of bullets poking through the thin metal walls of the airframe. A couple of times he saw a glowing arc where a round would hit one of his rotor blades, which would spark and trace a bright line as the blade moved. Goffena's Blackhawk and other helicopter gunships were holding the crowds back. Goffena and the other circling pilots worked the radio, pleading for immediate help. They were repeatedly assured that a rescue by the hurriedly assembled ground convoy was imminent. But Goffena's air commander, realizing that it was taking too long to get the new column up and moving, approved Goffena's request to put two of his helicopter's three commandos on the ground. The idea was for them to give first aid, set up a perimeter, and help Durant and his crew hold off the Somalis until the arrival of a rescue force. This was not a hopeless mission. One or two properly armed, well-trained soldiers could hold off an undisciplined enemy indefinitely. Shughart and Gordon were experts at killing and staying alive. They were career soldiers trained to get hard, ugly things done. Gordon had enlisted at 17; his wife and children lived near Fort Bragg, N.C. Shughart was an outdoorsman from Western Pennsylvania who loved his Dodge truck and his hunting rifles. When the crew chief gave Gordon the word that he and Shughart were going in, Gordon grinned and gave an excited thumbs-up. Goffena made a low pass at a small clearing, using his rotor wash to knock down a fence and blow away debris. He held a hover at about five feet, and the two boys jumped. Shughart got tangled on the safety line connecting him to the chopper and had to be cut free. Gordon took a spill as he ran for cover. Shughart stood motioning with his hands, indicating their confusion. They were crouched in a defensive posture in the open. Goffena dropped the copter down low and leaned out the window, pointing the way. A crew chief popped a small smoke marker out the side in the direction of Durant's helicopter. Shughart and Gordon ran to the smoke. The last thing the crew chiefs saw as the Blackhawk pulled away was both men signaling thumbs-up. Shughart and Gordon were calm. They reached in and lifted Durant out of the craft gently, one taking his legs and the other grabbing his torso, as if they had all the time in the world. They set him down by a tree. He was not in great pain. Durant was in a perfect position to cover the whole right side of the aircraft with his skinny-popper. Behind him the front of his aircraft was wedged tightly against a tin wall, closing off any easy approach from that side. He could see that his crew chiefs had taken the worst of the crash. They didn't have the shock absorbers in back. He watched them lift Bill Cleveland from the fuselage. He had blood all over his pants, and was talking but making no sense. Then Gordon and Shughart moved to the other side of the helicopter to help Tommy Field, the other crew chief. Durant couldn't see what was happening. He assumed they were attending to Field and setting up a perimeter, or looking for a way to get them out, or perhaps looking for a place where another helicopter could set down and load them up. Somalis were starting to poke their heads around the corner on Durant's side of the copter. He squeezed off a round, and they dropped back. His gun kept jamming, so he would eject the round, and the next time it would shoot properly. Then it would jam again. He could hear more shooting from the other side of the airframe. It still hadn't occurred to him that Shughart and Gordon were the entire rescue force. There was no big rescue team - other than the emergency ground convoy, which was still forming at the airport base two miles away. Durant also did not know, none of them did, that only 110 yards or so away, pilots Keith Jones and Karl Maier were waiting. The same team that had set the Little Bird down near the first crash site to help Cliff Wolcott's downed crew had now set their helicopter down again - to help Durant and his crew. Jones and Maier were aiming their weapons at alleyways leading to the clearing, expecting a crowd of Somalis to show up any second, and hoping that Shughart and Gordon would arrive with Durant and his crew. They were eager to load everybody up and hustle out of there. Goffena, circling overhead, had seen Shughart and Gordon lift Durant and then Cleveland and Field out of the fuselage. He knew they weren't going to be able to carry them to where Jones' Little Bird was waiting. He got on the radio and explained to Jones and Maier that the boys had set up a perimeter around Durant's Blackhawk. They had badly wounded crew members. They could not make it to the Little Bird. They were going to have to hang on until the ground force arrived. After waiting on the ground about five minutes, Maier and Jones reluctantly asked for permission to leave and refuel. The Little Bird was running low, and they were vulnerable. They lifted off, leaving the Americans at crash site two to their fate. He could hear firing on the other side of the helicopter. He knew Ray Frank, his copilot, was hurt but alive. And somewhere were the two boys and his crew chief, Tommy Field. He wondered if Tommy was OK. He figured it was only a matter of time before the ground vehicles showed up to take them out. Then he heard one of the guys - it was Gary Gordon - shout that he was hit. Just a quick shout of anger and pain. He didn't hear the voice again. The other guy, Randy Shughart, came back around to Durant's side of the bird. "Are there weapons on board?'' he asked. The crew chiefs carried M-16s. Durant told him where they were kept, and Shughart stepped into the craft, rummaged around and returned with both rifles. He handed Durant Gordon's weapon, a CAR-15 automatic rifle loaded and ready to fire. He didn't say what had happened to Gordon. "What's the support frequency on the survival radio?'' Shughart asked. It was then, for the first time, that it dawned on Durant that they were stranded. He felt a twist of alarm in his gut. If Shughart was asking how to set up communications, it meant he and Gordon had come in on their own. They were the entire rescue team. And Gordon had just been shot! Durant explained standard procedure on the survival radio to Shughart. He said there was a channel Bravo, and he listened while Shughart called out. Shughart asked for immediate help, and was told that a reaction force was en route. Then Shughart took the weapons and moved back around to the other side of the helicopter. Durant felt panic closing in now. He had to keep the Somalis away. He could hear them talking behind a wall, so he fired in that direction. It startled him because he had been firing single shots, but this new weapon was set on burst. The voices behind the wall stopped. Then two Somalis tried to climb over the nose end of the copter. He fired at them, and they jumped back. He didn't know whether he had hit them. A man tried to climb over the wall, and Durant shot him. Another came crawling from around the corner with a weapon, and Durant shot him, too. Suddenly there was a mad fusillade on the other side of the helicopter that lasted for about two minutes. He heard Shughart shout in pain. The shooting stopped.

Although i really do like the movie for it´s camera and SFX action, Blackhawk Down just as nearly any war-movie, was also a very one sided, simplistic and glorifying approach to what happened in Somalia, with lots of author interpretion, like the actions of 2 Delta´s, Shughard and Gordon setting up an perimeter around the 2nd crashsite. Many things that were done or said actually by several people, were projected onto a single actor in the movie, to help identification and development of that characters storyline. There are lots of "not so good" things left outside the movie, to give the army a smoother, more professional and heroic look. If they would have made everything authentic, i doubt this movie would have gotten military technical advisory, or further than the storyboard. Here is a good i-net resource : http://www.nightstalkers.com/history/9.html http://www.nightstalkers.com/tfranger/blackhawkdown/ Another point of view: http://www.anti-state.com/davidson/davidson2.html But it´s one great war movie, great excitement watching it.

During winter i usually wear clothes when going outside , it´s not that people who have a high metabolism have no body fat, it just doesn´t show as much and isn´t constant subject to radical change as on other people with a low metabolism, since the exchange is working more effective. I do not look like Schwarzenegger, nor like an ethyopian long distance runner , something normally inbetween i guess. Since i was around 13y, im 28 now, i am doing sports on a more or less regular basis, what also helped during the development.

I´m 182cm (5'9") at 78kg (172pounds) makes a 24 BMI index. The good thing is that i can eat what i want, no matter if it´s greasy fastfood or pizza, i won´t gain weight, 78kg +/- 2 kg i´m holding for about 10 years now, while not necessarily being cautious on what i drink or eat, as long as it tastes good. Some people with bad metabolism aren´t that fortunate, even when doing sports they often gain weight regardless, if they keep on eating normally.

No, i think the T-72M1´s were empty and stripped of fuel and munition when they test fired on them, i doubt anyone volunteered for experiencing the damage first hand from inside as the rounds hit . It´s actually the paint burned away by the immense heat upon impact.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (M79 @ June 06 2002,02:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Where did you get that cool pic from?<span id='postcolor'> I found it here: http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/

I suspect the DU projectile ignited the T-72´s munition stored in the carussell or floor, hence the extensive damage and blown away turret. Result of Bundeswehr firing tests conducted on former NVA T-72M1. The above picture shows 120mm KE (APFSDS) hits on the turret, notice the characteristic star pattern around the holes, they are caused by the stabilisation fins of the KE rod. T-72M1 turret roof after HEAT impact, notice a star-like pattern around the impact point is missing. Despite the very flat hit angle on the well sloped T-72 turret armor, the round succeeded to penetrate. T-72M1 glacis with 16mm additional armor plate, to the left APFSDS impact result probably 120mm, to the right probably small shaped charge warhead hit. The force of the KE penetrator rod impacting on the hull had been partially diverted upwards, what ripped open the additional 16mm armor plate mounted on the glacis like a banana. In both cases the the T-72M1´s front glacis armor had been penetrated, the tanks glacis armor is rated 690±20mm vs APFSDS and 940±40mm vs HEAT. An shaped charge warhead hit on the T-72M1´s cannon, despite the the very flat angle, the cannon has been penetrated completey.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ June 05 2002,15:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> The T72s and the T80s didnt stand a chance.<span id='postcolor'> No t80's in Iraq, man. Just export versions of the t72 using steel sabots and heat rounds against m1's. Of course they didn't stand a chance <span id='postcolor'> They didn´t, and this is what it looked like practially:

Try it with WRPEdit once it´s out and some new buildings are available as addons, currently it doesn´t look very Mogadishu, there are streets missing, vegetation, buildings too dispersed etc. Mogadishu isn´t just some huts strewn on the desert, go here for the city layout and try to realize it within WRPEdit: http://www.swan.ac.uk/cds/rd/compositemap.htm Get yourself a Digital Elevation Model of the area and make a new map out of it, position houses, streets, vegetation etc. If possible, house roof tops should be accessible.

I distinguish between atrocities in an armed conflict; individual caused and those following a political guideline, which one you mean? If it´s the latter you are asking for, than it´s likely the U.S having committed the most acts against non combatants in recent conflicts, fully backuped by UNO and NATO.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (macho_man_mathijs @ June 04 2002,18:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">sorry m8s the apache is the best chopper of the two. The Dutch army did extensive testing with both the EuroTiger and the Apache and they picked the Apache. They found that it was faster, could outmanouver and could carry more weapons than the Tigre. So they bought the Apache  This gave the French and the Germans quite a shock actualy, wich could outrageous questions in the European Parlement. Everybody picking on the Netherlands, lol<span id='postcolor'> As the netherlands decided against the Tiger, it sure wasn´t because of performance. Based upon flight performance charts the AH-64D and AH-64D Longbow are both inferior to the Tiger, neither do they have anything similar to the multimission and "low vis" capabilities. That any AH-64 outmaneuvers the Tiger is more than unlikely. The AH-64 in all variants is too sophisticated, too expensive, and too heavy for the future battlefield. While the Tiger Helicopter is designed and equipped for the electronic battlefield meeting the latest requirements out of the box, the basic AH-64 can just be upgraded (AH-64D/AH-64D Longbow) to the point where its no longer possible to upgrade, just as you can´t put the latest Athlon into an KT133 board only supporting up to 1300Mhz. The AH-64 fleet will be in a few years time from now where the russians are currently, every "modern" tank nowadays in service by them are just in a lengthy upgrade marathon improved versions of either the T-64(T-80) or T-62(T-72,T-90). As the upgradability is not given anymore they recently started on a completely new concept. Specs taken from www.janes.com ,www.boeing.com and www.eurocop.com.au/pages/specs.html: Max level and max cruising speed: AH-64D (clean) 147 kt (273 km/h; 169 mph) AH-64D Longbow (clean) 141 kt (262 km/h; 163 mph) Tiger (armed @max. weight) 150 kt (277 km/h; 173 mph) Max vertical rate of climb at S/L, standard day: AH-64D 541 m (1,775 ft)/min AH-64D Longbow 450 m (1,475 ft)/min Tiger 690 m (2,264 ft)/min Max range, internal fuel w/o reserves: AH-64D N/A AH-64A 260 n miles (482 km; 300 miles) AH-64D Longbow 257 n miles (476 km; 295 miles) Tiger (@max TO weight) 432 n miles (800 km; 497 miles) </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> The multi-role UHT is capable of performing armed reconnaissance, tank strikes, ground combat support, and air combat/escort. For these missions, the UHT can be equipped with anti-tank HOT or fire-and-forget Trigat LR missiles, Stinger air-to-air missiles, rockets and a gun pod. All these systems have undergone extensive firing trials, demonstrating the specified functions and performance of the weapons systems and the helicopter platform. The modular design concept of the Tiger enables it to be a multi-mission platform from the outset. The basic helicopter can be equipped with different operational systems, providing in-depth flexibility and multi-functionality. The Tiger has all-weather, day-and-night operational capability. Over 80 percent of the airframe is made of composites, which means less weight, better crash protection and a low electromagnetic signature. The Tiger benefits from new generation engines and rotors, and a glass cockpit with display units that decrease crew workload. An integrated helmet system and a Forward-Looking Infrared (FLIR) visionics piloting system are used for night flying missions. The Tiger's equipment also includes a third-generation target identification and acquisition system. On the UH-Tiger, the detectors for the gunner are located in the mast-mounted sight, and for the pilot, on the nose-mounted sight. The mast-mounted sight is used to detect and identify the target. The IR signature is reduced by directing the exhaust gases upward after mixing with cold air. The rotor's quiet-design airfoil section also reduces the noise footprint of the helicopter. Its narrow fuselage minimises visual detectability, and the airframe structure eliminates reflections of radar and infrared waves thanks to an anti-radar absorbent skin. The Tiger is also fitted with nuclear electromagnetic pulse (NEMP) protection. And no other combat helicopter can match the Tiger by offering such a comprehensive and effective solution for the conflicts of the future. Typical missions will be tank strikes, neutralising ground targets, combat support and escort, surveillance and reconnaissance, and protection of unarmed helicopters taking part in humanitarian aid operations. <span id='postcolor'> Sure, the Tiger doesn´t carry as destructive and expensive missiles as the AH-64´s AGM-114 Hellfire, but question is if this munition is needed at all on tomorrows battlefield, as the trend in general is to get away from ultra heavy MBT´s to lighter , more mobile multimission vehicles. Third world countries, where most interdiction and stabilising missions take place nowadays doesn´t require for the heaviest Anti-tank missiles either.

I don´t worry about sharks either, when making vacation near locations where sharks are known to be present, such as the mediterranean sea. It´s very unlikely to be victim of a serious shark attack, the probability is so vanishing low that it´s unequally likelier to get stroke by a lightning bolt, most shark attacks do happen on fault and after the shark senses that it´s not the prey he was hunting after in his mouth, he will let off. Remember, it´s not the shark coming into our world, we are the intruders and aliens to their world. The deadliest predators ever wandered this earth (humans) are far more dangerous to the shark than it would be the other way around, more than 150 million sharks are crippled and butchered every year for the finning trade. However there are some places on earth where i´d never go out for a swim, such as near Cape Town, South Africa and according seal islands. Here a site about shark attacks. http://www.sharkattacks.com/ The International Shark Attack File (incl. 2001 Worldwide Shark Attack Summary, maps/stats/graphs, how reducing risk of a shark attack etc. ) http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Sharks/ISAF/ISAF.htm

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hit_Sqd_Maximus @ June 03 2002,05:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Satchel, can you post a link about the chechnya conflict?<span id='postcolor'> Here:Military Analyses Network (Fas.org) Chechnya Many articles,internal /external  links and general information about the background and nature of the conflict. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/chechnya.htm Here:Russian-Manufactured Armored Vehicle Vulnerability in Urban Combat: The Chechnya Experience by Mr. Lester W. Grau, Foreign Military Studies Office, Fort Leavenworth, KS. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/docs/rusav.htm Here:Why the Russian Military Failed in Chechnya by MAJ Raymond C. Finch, III-older article about 1st Chechnya war. http://call.army.mil/products/spc_sdy/98-16/russmil.htm Here:The Most Powerful Enemy of a Main Battle Tank Author unknown, but good reading. http://babriet.tripod.com/articles/art_enemyofmbt.htm Should do .

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hit_Sqd_Maximus @ June 03 2002,05:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Satchel, can you post a link about the chechnya conflict?<span id='postcolor'> Here:Military Analyses Network (Fas.org) Chechnya Many articles,internal /external  links and general information about the background and nature of the conflict. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/chechnya.htm Here:Russian-Manufactured Armored Vehicle Vulnerability in Urban Combat: The Chechnya Experience by Mr. Lester W. Grau, Foreign Military Studies Office, Fort Leavenworth, KS. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/docs/rusav.htm Here:Why the Russian Military Failed in Chechnya by MAJ Raymond C. Finch, III-older article about 1st Chechnya war. http://call.army.mil/products/spc_sdy/98-16/russmil.htm Here:The Most Powerful Enemy of a Main Battle Tank Author unknown, but good reading. http://babriet.tripod.com/articles/art_enemyofmbt.htm Should do .

Although the Tiger is one hell of an ugly A/C, i like it. <span style='font-size:15pt;line-height:100%'>Multirole Attack Helicopter Tiger</span> CHARACTERISTICS TIGER Design mission weight 5400 kilograms Alternate gross weight 6000 kilograms Length 14 metres Height 3.81 metres Wing span 13 metres Hover out of ground effect (OGE) 3200 metres, anti-tank version 3500 metres, combat support version Vertical rate of climb 5.2 metres per sec, anti-tank version 6.4 metres per sec, combat support version Maximum rate of climb 10.7 metres per sec, anti-tank version 11.5 metres per sec, combat support version Flight speed, armed 145 knots, anti-tank version 155 knots, combat support version Cruise speed 124 knots Design limit speed 161 knots, anti-tank version 174 knots, combat support version Maximum range, internal fuel 800 km Mission endurance 2 hours 50 minutes Maximum endurance, internal fuel 3 hours 25 minutes Agility 40 degree angle of yaw after first second Trigat missile range 500 metres to 5 kilometres Maximum air to air missile range > 5 kilometres Maximum autonomous Target identification and engagement 5 kilometres Maximum internal fuel capacity 1020 kilograms Maximum internal plus external fuel capacity 1575 kilograms TIGER HAP The Tiger HAP is an air-to-air combat and fire support medium-weight (6 tonnes) helicopter fitted with 2 MTR 390 engines. It is daytime and night combat capable and is operable in NBC environments. Three basic parameters were taken into account right from the start of the development phase: low (visual, radar and infrared) detectability, which provides excellent survivability on the battlefield, maximum efficiency of the weapons and the associated fire control systems without heavier workload for the crew, and an optimized logistic concept offering minimum possession costs. The Tiger HAP is fitted with a 30-mm gun turret; 68-mm submunition rockets, and air-to-air Mistral missiles. It also features a firing sight with 3 sensors: infrared, TV camera and direct optical channel. The complete avionics suite includes multi-purpose color displays and radar/laser warning receivers. TIGER UHT The Tiger UHT is a multi-role fire support helicopter. The Trigat Fire and Forget missiles and/or the Hot missiles it carries offer anti-tank capability, while 68-mm rockets ensure air-to-ground fire support. A 12.7 mm air-to-air gun pod and air-to-air Stinger missiles can also be installed. The helicopter also features a mast-mounted sight with a second-generation IRCCD infrared channel and a TV channel, as well as a nose-mounted IRCCD control FLIR for the pilot. Countermeasures include radar/laser/missiles launch/missile approach warning receivers and decoy launchers. TIGER HAC The Tiger HAC is an anti-tank helicopter which supports the same equipments as the Tiger UHT. Weaponry includes Trigat and/or Hot anti-tank missiles and air-to-air Mistral missiles. Some Mission configs: Cockpit: Schematic: Small video from the ILA 2002, Tiger doing looping. http://www.robert-stetter.de/Ila2002/video/Tiger-Loop-01a.mpg