RedRogue

I haven't played OFP in over a year and I'm removing the save in my Favorites header so I won't be checking in anymore. Its been fun, its been bad, and in the end its been what its been.

Research into the above ironic facts.

I have one going that screams by earth just missing the atmosphere then loops out towards the moon and comes back doing its high speed pass again. Been going for a couple hours now.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Oct. 01 2002,14:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Oct. 01 2002,19:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It might be nice to have some latitude, but in the end having safety limitations can only cut down on non combat fatalities and accidents. Â And the reality is that the majority of lost aircraft in the last 20 years have been from training and routine flights than they have been from combat. (At least my impression of the reality, that is )<span id='postcolor'> I'm not disputing that. The MiG-29/Su-27 do have safety limitations, it's just that they can be overriden temporarily in extreeme situations, and even not-so extreme situations if the pilot so wishes.(The Cobra maneuver for example, requires that the AoA/G limiter be switched off). BTW, this is not a limitation of all FBW AC, since all Su-27 and the newer MiG-33 have digital FBW.<span id='postcolor'> Actually exceeding the limits of the airframe is not the biggest concern with the automatic G limiters in the FBW systems or with any military aircraft application. The biggest problem is depending on loadout conditions of causing damage to munition release systems and/or launch guides. Talk about making a bad situation worse, sure you got into firing position by exceeding loadout parameters but now your munition won't fire because its release is jammed. And like Warin said many less experienced and gunho pilots place their skills and capabilites far over what they really are and giving them the option of being able to test that limit only gets them in more trouble.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (supah @ Sep. 30 2002,17:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Old news, and its not true seeing how two brown haired parents can still have blond kids ..... or my sister isnt really family ...... Would explain allot! <span id='postcolor'> In case this hasn't been pointed out yet. You should have paid more attention in Biology class. While your parents may both have brown hair it does not mean they do not carry the blonde recessive gene which they both passed to your sister, hence why see is blonde.

The JSF was designed with the stealth capabilities and a margin of the F-22s ability to reach mach without an afterburner. JSF also has VTOL capability much like the Harrier Jumpjet but uses a forward thrust fan and thrust vectoring of the engine to perform VTOL manueuvers. http://www.pratt-whitney.com/unique/html/jsf-external/jsfvid.html

Take a look at these two websites, notice how similar they are? I found this while searching for reasearch material after reading this thread and thought it was a bit weird. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/atacms.htm http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/atacms.htm

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Sep. 03 2002,19:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*Cough* Single shots *Cough* Unless you consider your hand a magazine.... <span id='postcolor'> Hmmm. 'Magazine Fed' does not mean that the weapon is semi-auto. A magazine can feed a bolt-action or a semi-auto. Infact, you can have your Remington 700 fitted to accept M-14 magazines. I'm not sure which company does it though. Tyler Edit: Jester, do not get a BB gun, they are horribly innacurate when comapred to most pellet rifles.<span id='postcolor'> If you had actually READ that post you would see the words "single shots". This rifle as an example is a single shot, you load a round into the chamber by hand each shot. I'm my previous post I was refuting your statement that bolt actions are magazine fed. Single shots aren't, they have no magazine. You have 1 round in the entirety of the rifle at all times. A bolt-action with a internal magazine is a repeater. As the rifle ejects and self-chambers a new round each time you operate the bolt until the magazine is dry.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Sep. 03 2002,18:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also are bolt actions easier to clean than magazine fed? And which would be better for someone who has never shot a bolt action.<span id='postcolor'> Bolt-Actions are magazine fed silly. Â <span id='postcolor'> *Cough* Single shots *Cough* Unless you consider your hand a magazine.... Your #1 advantage to bolt action rifles are their simplicity. My Remington .22 single shot which was made in 72 I belive consists of the barrel, stock, trigger lever, and bolt. 4 pieces thats it. Now your bolt-actions with internal magazines are slightly more complex but the actual action isn't that much different. BTW what exactly would you expect to hunt with a .22? Other than varmit its illegal to use it for any other game hunting in almost every state. Edit: Thats 4 pieces that you would need to break it down into for you tech geeks. Also if you do purchase a firearm or pellet/bb gun a word of advice. Too much gun oil is always worse that too little. If you add to much oil not only is it a ***** to keep the weapon clean externally, but the access oil will catch carbon and dirt/dust and foul the weapon quickly.

I am all for stricter requirements for gun licensing and training/testing before allowing licensing of a firearm in the United States. However I will never stand for the complete illegilization of firearms. Until people are taught the reality and control required to be responsible for firearms and those that will never take it seriously are prevented from purchasing firearms we will continue to see gun related accidents in the USA. 1. Firearms are NEVER a toy, be it a bb gun, pellet gun, or whatever. They are a tool that is designed to kill or maim. Having been shot at and shot before I get very very upset when someone points a firearm in my or anyone else's direction. 2. Alot of people that purchase firearms for home defence would fail in actually operating the firearm when the time arose. It is one thing to stand at a firing range shooting at a target. It is completely another matter to shoot or threaten to shoot a human being at short range under duress. 3. Guns and children NEVER mix. It is ok to teach them gun saftey and control under supervision but keep all your firearms locked away in the Gun Safe not a flimsy glass front display cabinet. And make sure you have the only key in your possesion at all times. To actually utilize a firearm in home defense you would have to keep it loaded, easily accessible, and unlocked. Otherwise you would be pointlessly struggling with a trigger lock and or loading the weapon. These are the 3 Most stupid actions you could ever do with a firearm around children or family.

Unfortunately since Canada now wants you to PAY! for their federal publcations of crime reports I will have to find other less crediable reports to use... 42$ for a federal publication.............. ripoff

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Sep. 01 2002,21:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Sep. 02 2002,04:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">funny..some newguy digs up an old thread...about 2 weeks old. and this is his first post....and all of you are contributing to this too...might as well as spam here <span id='postcolor'> Umm, Ralph... They are not having a spamfest or it would be close. It is a discussion. Do you need 48 hours without posting rights to figure out the difference between a thread 2 pages down the guy is interested in, and spam? If all of you gun nuts think that gun control = more crime, how do you explain Canada? We have ea very low incedence of violent crime, and fairly strict gun control.<span id='postcolor'> .... beat me too it.... but since you brought it up I will redo my analysis of Canada's crime rate versus America's crime rate. Last time I did this in another forum using 99 reported crime rates normalized between the two nations Canada's per capita crime rate was slightly higher. I will post the results shortly using the latest possible data (and links for you Warin and Avon, cause I know how much you love links).

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Sep. 01 2002,21:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">funny..some newguy digs up an old thread...about 2 weeks old. and this is his first post....and all of you are contributing to this too...might as well as spam here <span id='postcolor'> Why would bringing and old topic back to life be wrong? Maybe there is more people would like to discuss on it, and since any new thread would be instantly locked by El Presidenti Denoir as a "useless thread" or "double thread" the only alternative would be to use this thread. There is digging up old threads for absolutely no point or injection of discussionable material, and then there is bringing your view to a topic you would like to have viewed.

And because that table turned out into a jumbled mess click herefor Colorado crime rates. As billytrain stated many people are under the false conception that the lack of crimes commited with firearms due to laws banning firearms means they have low crime rates. Rape is rape, be it done by brute force or with a gun. Murder is Murder be it done with a board with a nail in it or a 9mm berreta.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @ Aug. 15 2002,21:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No fuking way!! Look what happened to US, they have one of the highest crimes commited with a firearm rates in the world. And look at NZ for example, it is not allowed to own a gun, except for hunting purposes etc. And we only have like 2-3 shootings a year!!<span id='postcolor'> And your also comparing a population of 4 million to a population of 290 million. If you even want to do a remotely fair comparison you would have to compare New Zealand to Colorado in that they are approximately the same in population and land area. Colorado Crime Index Rates Per 100,000 Inhabitants: Year Population Index Violent Property Murder Rape Robbery assault Burglary Theft Theft 1990 3,294,394 6,053.7 526.0 5,527.8 4.2 46.2 90.6 385.0 1,208.8 3,890.6 428.4 1991 3,377,000 6,074.1 559.3 5,514.8 5.9 47.0 107.4 398.9 1,158.3 3,930.0 426.4 1992 3,470,000 5,958.8 578.8 5,379.9 6.2 47.3 120.5 404.9 1,090.9 3,780.1 509.0 1993 3,566,000 5,526.8 567.3 4,959.5 5.8 45.8 116.7 399.0 1,009.8 3,499.4 450.3 1994 3,656,000 5,318.4 509.6 4,808.8 5.4 43.2 106.9 354.0 925.7 3,490.2 392.9 1995 3,747,000 5,396.3 440.2 4,956.1 5.8 39.5 96.2 298.7 934.1 3,634.5 387.5 1996 3,823,000 5,118.5 404.5 4,714.0 4.7 46.2 98.2 255.4 900.8 3,415.5 397.8 1997 3,893,000 4,650.4 363.2 4,287.2 4.0 43.1 83.3 232.8 796.1 3,077.3 413.7 1998 3,971,000 4,487.5 377.9 4,109.5 4.6 47.4 81.5 244.4 786.5 2,917.9 405.1 1999 4,056,133 4,063.3 340.5 3,722.8 4.6 41.4 75.3 219.2 665.1 2,692.9 364.8 2000 4,301,261 3,982.6 334.0 3,648.6 3.1 41.2 70.5 219.1 630.8 2,623.5 394.3 New Zealand : Look here I'm too lazy to write all that out.