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Ive really got to say this game is aimed souly at coop players / clans. And for the  ctf clans / players there is going to be a BIG!!! dissapointment the way they have set the controls in arma makes for a very slow paced game and less control over the way you move and shoot. its alot lot different from the ofp moves / controls we all know and love that gives us the ability to play a fast paced ctf match and this is the truth!!! they should have left the origional controls and movements alone many many people said this during its production!! but on a good note the graphics are absolutly mind blowing top marks for that! but the future of ctf clans looks very shaky indeed!! unless they are willing for one big change in the way they are used to fighting and me myself as a ctf clan leader am not going to support this game for me its been a 2 year dissapointment. and ive heard a few other guys say the exact same all ctf players sorry guys

oh fuck up will you Cheers for making my point! like i keep saying this topic is for "CTF PLAYERS" god will u guys read if u like coops go play ur coop let us ctf guys sort this its about us not you ffs and i hope i do offend u have no buisness here u stayed away from our ctf games now stay away from our topic !!

i wouldnt know were to start with animations lol i made a few maps thats about it im not a modder i can do websites and play a mean ctf but thats as far as i go. can anyone one else mod arma to the same play as ofp im only talking infantry?

Can you imagine BIS saying to its loyal followers of ofp. GO play another game like css or unreal tournament lol they just wouldnt do that its like them saying thanks for your cash and support but now were going to leave you high and dry it would be like a slap in the face and a big insult which is what you guys are doing trying to insult dedicated supporters of ofp and arma just because we love ctf.

Im talking about the ones that have ctf clans or are part of a ctf clan or whos favorate way to play is ctf  like me i played coops for a few months and got bored of AI. Until i discoverd ctf then all of a sudden it was fun again and became my number one enjoyment out of ofp engaging in clan battles and leagues  playing real people with real skill.it was a place were coop players didnt last long because they gave up when they got killed like i said ctf is a faster paced game than a coop game CTF made players aim faster and move and react faster demanded quicker thinking to out smart a real enemy.you guys go on about how theres no respawn in coops and its realism bla bla bla but fact is in real life there is no AI and ai cannot play ctf lol.

You are most welcome my friend all i really wanted was feeback from CTF players and if there is going to be a future in arma with ctf id like nothing more than to discuss this with the people that have played ctf within ofp for the last 5 years talk tactics and ideas thanks alot m8 for the support.

I didnt start this topic for coop players im sorry if i speak a little out of term but some people are just too narrow minded this topic is for CTF players after all its the ctf community this effects NOT coop players.

yes then feel real proud of killing dumb ai instead of real players that can actually think and react! The screen shot gallerys gonna look great "us v ai" all the way through lol a great achievment for your clan NOT!! and stop comparing css players to ofp players!! ofp wins hands down if we was css players we wouldnt be posting here screw css its not the way we play! we have stuck by ofp all the way same as u coop guys. If any of you were proper ctf players which you are not. you would know theres alot more to it than just mindless killing and as for EAX its in the game to add to your gaming experience since when did sound improve your aiming and speed ok it lets you know if the enemy is left or right but you could turn a corner and there could be 50 different hiding places sound isnt going to point you to there exact location!!. Like i said too many coop players here posting in a topic that was ment for ctf players who know what they like wtf does coop players know about ctf they always quit the game after they get butt whooped!!!

I remember you mate How i miss them days!! lol oh and watch this lol pay attention to the Ural Hows that for realism!! hehe

Absolutly well said mate!! Â like i said all the way through this topic too much input from coop players. Ive already said this game is 100% perfect for coops these guys just do not understand what it is to be a fulltime ctf player. And what is required from the game in order for our way of playing to be possible. And i do not have any problems with the realism the graphics are a major improvement.Its just some of the actions. lets face it in real life you do not press a button on your utility belt to put the scopes up to your face its a automatic human reaction and this was easier in ofp. p.s i remember you ETA guys good bunch of ctf players i was in [sOD] maybe you guys remember me.

Nick thanks alot for that post and finnally somone that can feel for the people that have lost out on this really beautifull game the graphics are amazing but some of it has gone beyond what some people wanted. lets just hope there is some sort of addon introduced later that give ctf players the movement and controls of the old ofp series so they can enjoy the graphics and the game just as much and open it up to a wider audience once again.

And as for that guy saying all that about realism and then saying using scopes is for pussies well son they dont tell you that in the real army do they? and since when do you hold a rifle in the middle of your chest have you noticed the weapons are now more central were as in flashpoint it was in the right hand if you want realism shouldnt there be a option to switch hands? they did away with that by putting the lean function in.

Ok i agree maybe flashpoint wasnt really made for ctf play and was made for coops on large maps but people did realise the controls system and the soldiers movement gave them the ability to play in such a way and they did make the game with a editor and all the other tools to make it so. And ctf became a very popular way of playing with lots of people and gaming clans. At the end of the day its b.i.s that loose out for not realising that ofp was open to a much wider audiance than coop players.After all ctf players made b.i.s money too by buying and playing for the last 5 years and i dont know a single one that hasnt waited for ArmA too but now some people are getting more information im starting to here ctf players saying they arent even going to buy it because ctf was there way its how they enjoyed the game and who can blame them they feel a mass dissapointment as do i.

Then stop crying here, open your options menu and change the controls Jezus christ... its not that simple for god sake run ur ofp and quat with ur soldier put ur scopes on and run then u tell me if ur cursers splits like it does in arma then tell me if u can run and shoot with the same amount of accuracy and try walking also because that gave u more accuracy than running and does ur scopes come up automatically in arma NO! but they do in ofp might not sound like alot to some of u guys but to ctf players its what made ctf playable the way we liked it. now if you guys cant see the difference you must be dumb or never played the kind of ctf i did we used to use the curser as a aiming guide for fast paced play and you could run and shoot with some level of accuracy in close quaters u see alot of infantry ctf maps werent that big they had boundrys and a learnable path and were often a fast paced playing style. Ill tell you a secret, last time i checked the splitting crosshair has nothing to do with your accuracy! It just shows you are runningand therefore shooting is almost useless, the accuracy stays the same (although i turned the crosshairs off after 10 seconds, corsshairs are for pussies) And yeah i played a few CTFs, however i hated the fact that i was locked up between poorly placed editorupgrade102 objects, and im just a coop player and prefer realism, which is what OFP and ArmA are made for, when playing CTF in OFP i clearly noticed that the game just isnt made for it, if felt weird. like i said people got different enjoyment out of the game for me killing ai wasnt fun. for me it was the buzz of playing real people that had trained there skill and using comms and laying down enemy possitions to ur team m8s and feeling good when u take out a few guys and grab their flag and doing a home run back to score getting credit from ur clan and giving credit to them for covering you as u run to score the competition in ctf was like no other type of game play.. i started out doing coops and yes i did like it for a while i liked using all the weapons and veichles but i also saw how ctf had developed other peoples skill at moving and shooting with speed and accuracy ctf isnt for everyone it takes alot of practice to be a good ctf player and learning the map and the best way to play it.

yes we can m8 but we was also hoping for more advanced anti cheat measures and detections to be added youve heard of the resistance supercheat havent you that totally killed resistance off not to mention wireframe and speed software. non of which are detectable in ofp whichj is a massive shame cos id rather stop playing than cheat i have 5 years of experience behind me to use not like some people.

Then stop crying here, open your options menu and change the controls Jezus christ... its not that simple for god sake run ur ofp and quat with ur soldier put ur scopes on and run then u tell me if ur cursers splits like it does in arma then tell me if u can run and shoot with the same amount of accuracy and try walking also because that gave u more accuracy than running and does ur scopes come up automatically in arma NO! but they do in ofp might not sound like alot to some of u guys but to ctf players its what made ctf playable the way we liked it. now if you guys cant see the difference you must be dumb or never played the kind of ctf i did we used to use the curser as a aiming guide for fast paced play and you could run and shoot with some level of accuracy in close quaters u see alot of infantry ctf maps werent that big they had boundrys and a learnable path and were often a fast paced playing style.

Well, it's because CTF didn't really play off of the strong points of OFP. Â You couldn't lean, the G36 had god-like accuracy (and killing power), and the game wasn't really geared for close quarters combat. There is a multitude of games that offer the CTF game mode. So If you're going to play CTF, why do it in OFP? This was the truth for OFP as well. its like this m8 people enjoyed ofp in different ways be it coops ctf what ever but ofp had the controls system setup to perfection for fast ctf game play somthing that isnt in arma since my last post ive had 6 people approach me 5 are ctf players saying the exact same as me and another was a atef coop clan member offering his opinion still agreeing with my opinion of ctf play in arma its just lots of coop guys are really really pleased with the game and belive me so am i i think they did an amazing job!! although at the same time its a huge blow of dissapointment because some guys in my clan have tried it and said nope we cannot play like we used to in arma its just not the same plus the fact that people who do enjoy ctf and have arma are returning to gamespy because they are already missing a good ctf game which they cannot get in arma. to ctf players there ideal vision of arma was just ofp with a major graphics overhaul but its not the case and for alot of ctf players what they have done to arma its not what they wanted.

by the way im talking infantry only ctf here not tanks n stuff coop clans play it that way lol. Â like i said too many coop players in here

Well were finally getting views from ctf players and id like to thanks you for posting and offering there opinion. Â Â Â Â Im not going to totally rule out ctf in arma all im saying is the controls were alot easier in ofp for ctf players the way things are set out in arma isnt its gonna be much slower paced gaming and very carefull movements or positioning its just not going to be the same kind of play by a long shot.and all im thinking right now is i really hope there is a way to mod things to the way ofp was because ctf players really are going to need it.But for coop players this game is a real dream come true its absolutly amazing what bis has done on this.

all im seeing so far is coop clans and players saying they are happy with the game give it more time when more ctf clans try this game out and produce some ctf maps and see what they have to say. i cant force people to post here but belive me ive spoken to ctf players that just hate the new system and are praying for operation flashpoint 2 with less drastic changes.

Nearly every ctf player ive spoke to while arma was in production said there all for the new graphics but they hoped to god bis didnt change the controls and ease of playability like the origional ofp and they have. ive just been in gamespy and spoke to around 12 people that all said they have dissapointments with the controls 3 of them actally said when it comes to ctf they would much rather play ofp because they dont like what theyve done with arma.fact is this games made for coop players which u guys probably are theres no question about it its perfect for coops and alot of coop clans hate ctf players because there the reason why cheats and mods are introduced to the game and i think bis also knew this  all im doing here is giving facts from a 5 year running ctf player in ofp so i do know alot about ctf play ive given credit to the graphics and some changes im not totally anti arma ive waited and waited with just as much excitement for 2 years like everyone else has im sorry if the truth hurts.im just voiceing my opinion and i know for a fact theres others thats played arma that share the same views and opinion as i do.how ever you look at it its change and some like change others dont but one thing i do know is ctf isnt going to be what it was in ofp and is going to take some real getting used to.

run and gun does work on close quater inf maps u obviously aint a ctf player

Im a hardcore ctf player i like the old way were u can run drop and scope comes up automatically i like to hit the shift once when i want to run or let go if i wanna stop. i dont like the double tap run it somtimes dont work and is confusing if u want to run sideways for a running attack/shoot with arma the curser widens when u run and sprays all over when u fire and is alot less accurate than the old ofp we know and love were u can use the curser as a marker so u know where ever its pointed u can drop and near enough be on target with your crosshairs arma has non of this the only thing i do like is the roll u can do u guys obviously like a mixture of coop and ctf cti etc. for myself i loved the ctf play in ofp and ressi dont like fighting A.I. its a buzz playing real people in real clans and winning or losing some maps are designed to be played at a fast pace u cant play fast pace when u have to manually put scopes on every time u stop there was a option to have open scopes or with scopes if u chose to use scopes when u stop running they came up automatic and having to press a button to do it manually in arma isnt realism. ctf play is going to be very very different in arma and slower like i said and its not going to be to everyones likeing especially hardcore ctf players.

Id like a G36 and a nice arma mouse matt

for the worst if ur a ctf player honest.