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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles @ Aug. 11 2002,23:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">a letter is never used in flags<span id='postcolor'> Letters are sometimes used.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Aug. 11 2002,22:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Green and white looks ok, just not the way it's been used so far, no matter what's in the middle it makes me think of Nigeria, try another pattern or different shades or something.<span id='postcolor'> The green and white vertical bands is not just Nigerian! ran, the red one can be for communist Nogova, and the other for independant Nogova. Do people prefer the new wreath? What about an Heraldric flag for 'old' Nogova. Pre-communist, these sort of images are often taken up by resistance movements, like the cross of lorraine and the Free-French. For example This is the flag of Royal Romania before it was absorbed by communism. It is still held by royalists and some nationalists today.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Aug. 11 2002,21:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also foxhuntings banned up north now not that i give a damn about ponces in red coats running after a fox on horses but amount of hippies, totallly biased newspapers and crap that got it banned in the first place.<span id='postcolor'> It's banned it Scotland, and will be in England soon. This is a perfectly legal activity and a natural way to hunt. Take away the right to hunt and things can only go down hill....

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Aug. 11 2002,21:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Unless of course you are Canadian or at a wedding <span id='postcolor'> Or in the Light Dragoons!

Running with ran's idea  : A flag for Nogova's communist days: red with a yellow 'N' and star. Having toruble getting it online though...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Aug. 11 2002,21:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The navy get's everyone there. Airforce softens the enemy up. Â They are very important. Â After they bomb enemy facilities and such, it's a whole lot better when land forces get in there. The Marine's get onto land and start taking ground. Army moves in behind and partially with to hold positions. Basically how it works.<span id='postcolor'> It depends: what the conflict is, where it is, who it is against etc... There is no "war plan".

This is the latest incarnation: What do you all think? Thanks to Jamesia!

The crest. This will be the centre of the flag, i think:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 11 2002,20:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Air Force is my pick. They bomb enemy positions, and really cut down the loss of life severly for the soldiers. Afetr Airforce it is like this.... Army Mariens Navy<span id='postcolor'> You seem to have a commanding grasp of the military there...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 11 2002,19:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 11 2002,19:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 11 2002,19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i should have said State-government. like California, Colorado, United Kingdom <!--emo&<span id='postcolor'> What!? Â I'm withholding some serious blustering here...! Â Â <span id='postcolor'> nah i was just poking fun at UK being too close to US. I recenty saw George Michael's new music video 'Shoot the dog' and thought it was funny and try it here. <span id='postcolor'> I knew you were joking . Now being close is bad! Crikey what do they want!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jamesia @ Aug. 11 2002,20:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Click here if you cannot see the image lol, the one at the bottom just looks......... evil. I took off the crown. the top one is nice.<span id='postcolor'> Take away the stars they are specifically Chinese... The top one looks good. Without the bird it would be great.

There could of course be more than one flag made. ran: your red flags could be for the communist era. There could be the state flag and a more fancy heraldric version.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Aug. 11 2002,20:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">here are my proposals : <span id='postcolor'> I like the green colour, and I personally find the gold leaves too fancy. They are an independant nation, they should have their own colours. Should there be a poll to finally decide this, or will it be done on concensus here? This flag should be able to be used community wide.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 11 2002,19:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i should have said State-government. like California, Colorado, United Kingdom <span id='postcolor'> What!? I'm withholding some serious blustering here...!

3--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 11 2002,193)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 11 2002,18:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">National Guards...hmm...don't know that much, but they are state-based, state-sponsored military segment.(not sure on this though)<span id='postcolor'> You mean that the other branches are not state sponsored, but just live of what they can loot? <span id='postcolor'> beat me to it.

I am joining the Army after I finish University. Meantime I am joining the University officer corps.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Aug. 11 2002,18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 11 2002,16:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you like the 'N' placebo?<span id='postcolor'> Personally I'd go with something more subtle, like a fist or suchlike to show power and fight etc. Something like this would be my choice....... Obviously a better checkered background and a better fist would be called for but it shows the idea <span id='postcolor'> It dosn't resemble a real flag though. And checked patterns are almost unheard of in national flags. I definately think this is best: My flag

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 11 2002,18:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think we have a pretty solid system in Sweden. To get a license you have to be active in a shooting club for at least six months (active means to shoot at least one hour twice a week or something like that). You also must pass numerous both practical and theoretical tests. After your six months are up and you have passed all the tests you can buy one .22 caliber gun. After another 6 months of active shooting and some more tests you can buy any caliber. All guns must be locked up (by law) in a special form of gun safe. There are relatively many gun owners in Sweden but very few thefts of guns and very little criminal use of guns. Military weapons are much more often stolen then private owned.<span id='postcolor'> That seems an ideal system. I wish we had it in Britain where they are even considering 'cracking down' on air rifles!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Aug. 11 2002,17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't understand what Nogova has to do with Nigeria? Cos that's what the green and white makes me think of when I look at it, no matter what's in the middle, if you're going with green and white how about checks? <span id='postcolor'> Yes I know that the Nigerian flag is green and white, but so are others like Norfolk island, which is where I started. It is also the police colours, I ran with it. The central design will define it. Do you like the 'N' placebo?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (foxer @ Aug. 11 2002,17:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Insane people can't have guns,or depression people,or people that have been in jail.It's not that easy to get a gun in america unless,you know someone on the street which is by the way illegal.You europeans like to stereotype america that you can go to any store and just pick up a gun with no questions ask.Also if they can't stop drugs in america there is no way in hell they will stop guns.And there's too many guns in america,Soo it's to late to do anything about them now,except crack down on the people that shouldn't have them.<span id='postcolor'> You have made the point against population-wide gun ownership there, there are so many guns in America that they can't be controlled. I think the third way is best. Few, well controled and licenced guns to responsible citizens.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jamesia @ Aug. 11 2002,17:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Click here if you cannot see the picture Some more, personally I like number 6. Note the lack of Union Jacks.<span id='postcolor'> You can't have crowns or other royal symbols. Numbers 3 and 4 are reworkings of the flag of Brunei. I personally think that simplicity is best. Remember that this is an Eastern European nation, allbeit an island. I don't think the embellishments suit it. But we can work on the designs. I want to know if there is real community wide interest in having one made...

Very nice, I have still not got over the fact that they didn't make a non-silenced uzi!

I personaly voted for option three. I think sane, law abideing citizens should be able to own firearms. For defence and sport. They should however be under strict control and regually licenced. Like owning a car. Yes, that Charlton Heston.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (swilliams @ Aug. 11 2002,15:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats what I thought! Why is there no Flag? The resistance "FIA" flag is awful in my opinion. The resistance and the island needs a flag to rally round. In the Nogovan colours that we have decided upon (green and white) and simple. Over embellishment will spoil it I think. <span id='postcolor'> Yeah! Â The FIA flag is awful. Â Why didnt they just use the malden islands flag? Â I mean the Russians arnt going to really care whether they use an FIA flag or a resistance flag... lol A resistance force would probably use the former flag of the nation... btw what does FIA stand for? Â <span id='postcolor'> When the idea came to me I was amazed that it hadn't been thought of before, I suppose because Everon never felt like a 'real' nation. Malden was American and Kolgujev was Russian.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (swilliams @ Aug. 11 2002,15:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think BIS should of already done a Malden islands flag though because its been involved in three campaigs now <span id='postcolor'> Thats what I thought! Why is there no Flag? The resistance "FIA" flag is awful in my opinion. The resistance and the island needs a flag to rally round. In the Nogovan colours that we have decided upon (green and white) and simple. Over embellishment will spoil it I think.