Paratrooper

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 06 2002,01:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Sep. 06 2002,01:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As for Blair, he is not my man, but I wouldn't consider Britain as insignificant in this situation.<span id='postcolor'> I agree that Britain is in a decising position in this matter. I hope Blair does make the right choice in the end.<span id='postcolor'> I have not come to a decision on this matter yet, there is still time for the UN in my opinion, but what is your position denoir?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 06 2002,01:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Sep. 06 2002,01<!--emo&)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We have troops in Kosovo because we deplore the Crimes of the Serbian state apperatus there. Are our troops to remain at home for the people of Iraq? Double standards? -yes. As for war, I think there is still a large role for the UN.<span id='postcolor'> You are not seriously trying to suggest that this is about the people of Iraq? Not even Bush tries to bullshit that much.<span id='postcolor'> It should be, hence the double standards. As for Blair, he is not my man, but I wouldn't consider Britain as insignificant in this situation.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 06 2002,00:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Sep. 06 2002,00:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Saddam has done terrible things to the Kurds, no better than Milosevic at all! The NATO bombing campaign did weaken Slobbo, his 'election' to surehimself up just happened to give the people a chance to finish him. Where is the Iraqui election? Saddam is just as much a tyrant as Milosevic ever was.<span id='postcolor'> Albert already said a part of what I want to say. The other part is that operation allied force kept Milosevic in power for about 6-12 months longer then he would otherwise. The NATO attacks unified his people around him at a time when they were more then ready and willing to kick him out. There is a big difference in political style between Saddam and Slobo. Milosevic enjoyed from 91-98 a very strong support from his people. The Serbs never disliked him because of the war crimes he was responsible for, but for bringing economic chaos to Yugoslavia. Saddam is a more classic dictator with all the bells and whistles.<span id='postcolor'> We have troops in Kosovo because we deplore the Crimes of the Serbian state apperatus there. Are our troops to remain at home for the people of Iraq? Double standards? -yes. As for war, I think there is still a large role for the UN.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 06 2002,00:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have learned something, that Im wright and your wrong! j/k<span id='postcolor'> Read that again. Even you will find it funny.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 06 2002,00:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Sep. 06 2002,00:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A questoin I find myself asking is; If Saddam was a European dictator what would we do? We toppled Slobbo for less. Do we(the west) have double standards?<span id='postcolor'> You have to get your facts straight. 1) Slobodan Milosevic was by any standard worse then Saddam Hussein 2) We didn't 'topple' him. The Serbian people got rid of him.<span id='postcolor'> Saddam has done terrible things to the Kurds, no better than Milosevic at all! The NATO bombing campaign did weaken Slobbo, his 'election' to surehimself up just happened to give the people a chance to finish him. Where is the Iraqui election? Saddam is just as much a tyrant as Milosevic ever was.

I have no love for Saddam, but I do know one thing; all he cares about is ruling Iraq, If you want to see his WMD threaten to topple him! If war is neccessary then we better fight it, but I think there are still other options.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 06 2002,00:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Sep. 06 2002,001)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 05 2002,23:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As long as you pay teenage kids minimum wage to work at a movie theater, this will continue to happen  <span id='postcolor'> You want to pay them more to have fun with the signs?!  <span id='postcolor'> no, but I- I mean they might value their job enough to not take a risk like that  <span id='postcolor'> As long as intelligent young people get menial tasks we will have the pleasure of funny signs!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Sep. 06 2002,00:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">oops...thanx for your advice Paratrooper I hsould have said Japan, Korea, and China(both mainland and Taiwan)<span id='postcolor'> Ok, sorry to rant on, but the reference to whole continents when people mean a specific country or countries gets my goat.

A questoin I find myself asking is; If Saddam was a European dictator what would we do? We toppled Slobbo for less. Do we(the west) have double standards?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bogo @ Sep. 05 2002,23:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 06 2002,000)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Isreal should relocate the people of Palestine to another country that will take them, I am suer there is one. Â Since Isreal owns the land I have nothing against this.<span id='postcolor'> Are you going for the world record in saying the same thing over and over and over again. <span id='postcolor'> Quite. Will you just learn something about what you keep commenting on! In my own point, I think that seperation is they best way forewards, UN monitored and enforced if possible. However I really can't see Israel accepting it, how can this hurdle be overcome?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Sep. 06 2002,00:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">in asian cultures, up until recently, hitting thighs with sticks was tolerated in schools, let alone at home. and that was not considered as an abuse, but rather as disciplinary action.<span id='postcolor'> Asian?- Indain? Chinese? Japanese? Cambodian? You see refering to whole continents is a little blunt. Asia, Africa, Europe, they are all very diverse places.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 05 2002,23:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As long as you pay teenage kids minimum wage to work at a movie theater, this will continue to happen  <span id='postcolor'> You want to pay them more to have fun with the signs?!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 05 2002,23:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, at times it seems like you guys are all reading out of the same playbook<span id='postcolor'> Not me, British conservatism is probably closer to your average American opinion than contenental European. We all hate cruelty to children but look at it in different ways.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 05 2002,23:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">See, that's what I mean.<span id='postcolor'> Exactly there is no 'European' attitude. From Portugal to Finland there are alot of differing and ancient cultures.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 05 2002,23:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im just curious- because I know that because of cultural differences between America and Europe the standards that define an 'abusive' family might uh, be a bit different. For example: I think that kids should be smacked around every once in a while if they deserve it. For example, when I got out of line, I got spanked (many times lol) and once got my mouth washed out with soap. In retrospect, I deserved it all, and dont consider any of it abusive. But others might think otherwise.<span id='postcolor'> Well that wouldn't really count as abuse in the UK. You are allowed to spank a child with your hand. I don't know about the mouth washing though, but if discipline is given allong with love and for a good reason it can't be called abuse in my book. I also wouldn't lump European cultures together, I saw an Italinan man give his small child two real wallops for breaking a plate in a cafe by accident, no-one batted an eyelid but the child was consolled by it's mother and the cafe owner gave him a cake. You wouldn't see a scene like that all over Europe.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Sep. 05 2002,22:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I know this is old so forgive me if you've seen it, but LMFAO Â Â <span id='postcolor'> Lol!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Rhubarbman @ Sep. 05 2002,22:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">no, but he puts it as tho the lose of someoen from the UK during WWII was "nothing"<span id='postcolor'> Don't be so toutchy I don't know anyone whose family has not lost people in the war. Mine certainly did on air, sea and land.

You could find all this with a simple google search you know.

It looks good, but I'll also be getting a new machine for it. If I get it that is.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 05 2002,22:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In the EU, whats the general criteria for an abusive family?<span id='postcolor'> In Britain you aren't allowed to strike children under 4. You certainly aren't allowed to damage a child or be in any other way cruel. This is fair I think, but abuse is a long running thing isn't it.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Rhubarbman @ Sep. 05 2002,21:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It seems funny how the Americans didn't loose 1! single soul out of WW2, and its strange how the US, Britain and France were the one to loose nothing compaired to the other countries. <span id='postcolor'> Yea loose nothing, tell that to My great gran who lost 7 brothers in WWII to the germans    <span id='postcolor'> They weren't civillians though surely.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (runningmovies @ Sep. 05 2002,20:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here a few I have seen at a website funnymail.com: 24 Important Rules Of Combat 1. If the enemy is in range, so are you. 2. Incoming fire has the right of way. 3. Don't look conspicuous: it draws fire. 4. The easy way is always mine. 5. Try to look unimportant, they may be low on ammo. 6. Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous. 7. The enemy invariably attacks on one of two occasions: 1. When you're ready for them. 2. When you're not ready for them. 8. Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy someone else to shoot at. 9. If you can't remember, the claymore is pointed at you. 10. If your attack is going well, you have walked into an ambush. 11. Don't draw fire, it irritates the people around you. 12. The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire. 13. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend. 14. If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid. 15. When in doubt empty the magazine. 16. Never share a fox hole with anyone braver than you. 17. Anything you do can get you shot. Including doing nothing. 18. Make it too tough for the enemy to get in and you can't get out. 19. Mines are equal opportunity weapons. 20. A Purple Heart just proves that were you smart enough to think of a plan, stupid enough to try it, and lucky enough to survive. 21. Don't ever be the first, don't ever be the last and don't ever volunteer to do anything. 22. The quartermaster has only two sizes: too large and too small. 23. Five second fuses only last three seconds. 24. It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed ____<span id='postcolor'> They look like Murphy's laws.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Rhubarbman @ Sep. 05 2002,21:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would also urge you to post my original Post to any meesege boards that you subscribe to that has an EU following so we can help the FULL STOP campaign. Thx for the sticky its much appreciated<span id='postcolor'> I fully support the campaign but I can't see that any charity can penetrate the vault of the abusive family on a national scale. The family is our first institution after all.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Sep. 05 2002,19:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Sep. 04 2002,23:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">France lost a lot of civilians, but i guess some of them were part of resistance.<span id='postcolor'> not every frenchman was a resistant , in fact , we can consider that actually less than 5% of the french population resisted (by resistaing , i mean fighting with a gun in your hands and participating to sabotage actions) most of the losses were due to the german and then allied bombers then come the german represails against the french population<span id='postcolor'> I heard an interesting radio program that said 10% of French actively resisted and 10% collaborated. In the north, not to complicate matters with Petain.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 05 2002,21:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have never heard about NSPCC before, though.<span id='postcolor'> They are a British charity, do you have something similar in Sweden?