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Looking really great,keep up the good work and keep us informed!

Amen to that!

Because they are Dutchmen who have more right on living here, it's as simple as that (don't want to sound like a rascist). The suspected murderer of van Gogh was a dutchman too, so he can stay according to your logics. I think you know wat I mean  No, I don't actually. He was a dutchman in all ways. Born here (he was, wasn't he?) and raised here and he has a dutch passport. When granted that, he has just as much "right" to live here as you do.

No, not immediatly of course. With crimes like murder or rape, prison and after that send them back to their country. For lesser crimes, a point system (sounds weird but anyway). Out of points? Then out of the country. You are raping democracy with that post of yours. We are living in a state that is controlled by laws, it is both morally as legally wrong to make the distinction between foreigners and dutch people in determaining the punishments for the same crime. If dutch person commits a crime, he/she gets locked away for a while, if a foreigner does the same, he/she gets kick out of the county forgood? This is racism at it's top!

Because they are Dutchmen who have more right on living here, it's as simple as that (don't want to sound like a rascist). The suspected murderer of van Gogh was a dutchman too, so he can stay according to your logics.

And also: the crime rates among lower educated people are far higher than higher educated people, why don't we kick them out?

So... after the capture of a criminal, they judge if they are foreign. If so; out of the country they go, if not we'll follow the normal lawprocedure. Sure, that'll make a nice and equal society with people living in harmony

What about people that were born here? What about average Dutchmen, just like you? There are a lot of people doing bad things, and suprisingly not all of them are immigrated once in their lives. So if born and raised dutch people, living here for many generations since our lands were dried from the sea, do something wrong, we'll kick them out of the country?

But Fubar, I'm affraid he's actually going to like that title...

De Telegraaf is a tabloid, spreading rumours and known fiction in glamourstyle writing. The problem is it has the sizes of a regular paper and many people take the stories in it asif it was objective news. There are statistics somewhere (a shame I can't find them now) that keep track of how many times de Telegraaf have claimed the same famous people to be deceased, pregnant, maried, divorced or involved in criminal activities

Indeed, a really strange situation. I'm not an expert in this matter, but I must say I'm unable to understand what all the fuss is about...

Van Gogh wasn't simply exercising his right to free speech, he was costantly insulting people in a very serious way. I'm not saying that he deserves anything in the line of what has been done, not at all. But he was a prick, and some people and some cultures take really nasty things said about their prophet and extreme generalisations about the treatments of their wifes so seriously, that they fail to see a way out of the situation with words. To come back on the freedom of speech; A reporter of the New York Times said in an interview with "de Volkskrant" that he wasn't able to explain in the US what has happened in the Netherlands, because he would be fired instantly when naming the word 'goatfuckers' (a term van Gogh eagerly used for muslims). There is a line between using free speech and making untolerable insults, and van Gogh crossed that line in almost every piece he wrote.

I just hate it when people abuse the word terrorism in the media all the time. Nowadays they call anything that they don't like and is directed to themselves terrorism. The murder of The van Gogh was not terrorism, it was simple murder. The bombing of the islamic school in Eindhoven or the violence at the mosks in Breda and Amsterdam, that's what you might call terrorism.

What the fuck are you talking about?

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Thanks for the games all

Although I didn't like the guy all that much, and his fillms were nothing more than crap, killing the guy is just horrible. Anyway, about the 'new members' being intolerant; van Gogh was the most intolerant guy ever in the media of the Netherlands. He publicly insulted christians, jews and mostly muslims, calling them goatfuckers, pimps of allah and accusing them of regular wife-beating, incest and pedofile activities.

I remember when a thread like this was running when we had only 3 choices... I went for Malden back then, but either nogova or tonal would be my pick now.

So, what's up? What happened, yesterday no coopnight, and the CiA site seems to be down also...

I voted for the small application, but actually anything is fine to me. Whatever I can do to help BIS in any way, I'm in.

O my god, I'm so mad right now I could eat a puppy! Anyway, I have my revenge by seeing the club of the city I go to university (PSV) beat Rosenborgs ass

So... are we playing tonight?

It is, what are the chances of actually finding her?

Planet of War came out long before BIS released it's tools, so they probably made use of own or user made tools.

looks very nice, we just need some people form South America to join in