Oligo

....Oligo, who was in reality the agent in charge of the virtual reality kept by the Starbuckian dreadlords. The dreadlords had imprisoned the analysts (the only humans left alive) to the virtual reality copy of Earth for interrogation purposes. Oligo just pretended to be a janitor.

All talk and such crap was interrupted by the clever pre-emptive strike by the Starbuckian dreadlords. They had foreseen the emergence of human resistance thousands of years before it actually happened and thus had launched a black hole to an intercept course with the sun. Unfortunately for humankind, it hit. The hole plowed into the sun. It wasn't a big black hole, but still it massed more than sun itself. Matter struck the event horizon, only to be sucked in forever. Soonish, the material of the sun began a death spiral towards the hellish whirlpool of death. The spiraling motion heated the matter to ultra high temperatures, which in turn led to the matter giving out incredible amounts of hard radiation. This radiation, still outside the event horizon of the black hole, spread to all directions. Unfortunately, Earth was on the way. The poor globe just fried. Everything organic burned, the atmosphere was blown away, the seas boiled and evaporated. Rock itself was first fused to a terribly beutiful plain of glass, before the overwhelming radiation storm just raked the whole mass of Earth to plasma, speeding aways from the sun turned a killer. Similar fate met the other planets of the solar system. Before long, all matter of the solar system was gone. Either it was blown away by the radiation or it had been sucked into the hell mouth of the black hole. All that remained was the hole itself, totally invisible now to a casual observer, except for the gravity lensing effect that played the light of the distant stars and galaxies to strangely warped kaleidoscopic forms. Needless to say, everybody was fucking dead.

Such were the first messages to come out of the trousers. It took years to analyze just what the mysterious tansmissions 'Icefire: Finally, something interesting is coming out of this damn thread.' and 'Aculaud: IceFire, this is supposed to be story only. You cant just post anything you want here. Ask everyone else.' had meant. But finally the analysts succeeded...

"As the great American philosopher H. Simpson once observed, “Bullfloppies.†Whether it’s “generous†or not, being offered 95% of what you claim to be asking for is a pretty good starting point. It’s called negotiation, not capitulation. Perhaps Israel should turn over 100% of the territory and rely on Arafat’s promise that the attacks would end? After all, he’s been trustworthy so far. There are two reasons not to accept the 95% as an initial offer: (1) He’s stupid, or (2) He has an ulterior motive -- and whatever other negative qualities Arafat may embody, he hasn’t survived this long by being stupid. Is it possible that he has another objective in mind? But what could the noble PLO want, other than a Palestinian homeland?" It wasn't an 'initial offer'. It was 'take it or fuck off'. Anyway, what the hell does it matter what ulterior motive PLO has? Once given the indie state of their own (a proper state), how the fuck are the bad terrorists going to get into Israel to blow shit up? Also, the international opinion will swing in favour of israelis. Furthermore, how is the PLO ever (even now) going to defeat one of the mightiest armies in the world (IDF)? And final question: How many times has this same debate been fought? "Damn us hyperaggressive barbarians, oppressing yet another group of innocents! When will we learn that it’s better to sit on our hands and kindly ask these philosophers not to fly passenger planes into our evil buildings? Taking the fight to them might damage their fragile self-esteem! Oh, woe!" Well, I didn't know the airliners were coming from Talebanland, I thought it was some terrorist organization (no homeland) which attacked you. I thought you attacked the taleban, because they make a good enemy (easy to defeat and nobody likes them) and they happened to have talked to the evil terrorists. But whatever, man. I'm not having THIS discussion again. "Are you under the impression that there was a public outcry here demanding that we jump into this fray? If so, you’ve been misinformed." Yes there was. "PLEASE tell me you’re joking." Maybe I was, maybe not? Isn't it funny that the country which spends most on defence, also fights the most wars? Is this a case of: We have a big army, so I guess we have to use it for something. DANG, now, who'll we attack. Come on you baddies, show yourselves... "Yes, I see your point – how incredibly selfish of us. Obviously, it's better to die for nothing." That's why you go somewhere, bomb shit and kill and then pull out to leave somebody else to sort out the ruins. "I’m not arguing whether or not we went to Korea and Vietnam to try and contain communism, in fact, that’s obvious. Again, my point is that we were trying to help other countries without us having a direct stake in the outcomes." And I'm arguing that your fear of evil communism is just ridiculous and childish. It's just another goddamn ideology, it's not a contagious disease. But I guess you have to fear something and fearing communism looks cooler than fearing that the sky is going to fall on your head.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IsthatyouJohnWayne @ May 06 2002,18:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oligo-I can hardly believe you're in the dark about this Swedish Eugenics<span id='postcolor'> Oh, now I understand what you're talking about. I just couldn't connect, because I don't think that the shit (sterilization of retards) done in Sweden, Finland and everywhere else also had much to do with eugenics, although the author of the article seems to think so. Anyway, it's a so-so question, whether to call it eugenics (the betterment of genetic stock by preventing the poorly gened from replicating). I know many politicians and doctors and such have vouched for the mandatory sterilization of retards to curfew the spreading of genetic defects in the population. And maybe they went slightly too far in Sweden and in other countries, but the basic practice is pretty viable, although for a different reason than the one given above. Raising children is a difficult matter and retards just don't cut it. Actually, there are many 'normal' people, who should not have children, if you ask me. Still, the retards retain the sexual drive of normal humans and care little about the consequences of sticking their dicks somewhere or taking it in (if they are allowed to run free that is). So if we have fertile village idiots running around, pretty soon we'll have village idiot babies. This issue is just like the issue of marrying cousins or the death penalty (how barbaric that is?). There is no absolute right or wrong, but everyone has to decide for themselves. The state majority then dictates state policy, it's democracy man.

Here is a collection of snippets I got to reply to: “Why then the relentless focus on Israel? Sure looks anti Israeli to me , -<certainly based on perceived actions>- but none the less anti Israeli “ This topic is called Mid east, maybe that's the reason to focus on Mid east? “Yes By enforced population control (Eugenics) admittedly it ended a while ago. And an interfering nanny state If Britain had 8 million people in it and not so much heavy industry or economic competitiveness im sure it would be similar†I'd like to know what you mean by your claim that eugenics have been used in scandinavia for population control. Please give some examples. Anyway, the economic competitiveness of scandinavia is formidable. I just got to point out that Finland is leading the competitive prowess index list at the moment, followed by U.S. And as far as I know, Sweden is a real economic powerhouse. In fact, scandinavian economic prowess is probably better than that of U.K. “I live around the corner and my books dont have the "made in US" on the back-cover. Still I must insist on the fact that indeed there were Danish, Swedish, Polish, French, Tscheck, Dutch... (well I cant stop) soldiers to be found in the centre units of the SS, and not forced but ideological perverted as the german SS-members. And as in any country there were not only brave fishermen but neighbours telling the SA where jews were hiding themselves. Thanks god that the historical work has advanced so far that we no longer suffer under total stereotyping. Anti-semitism was a European illness and people were infected anywhere.“ There were nazis everywhere during WWII, even in bloody U.S. (I've seen some footage of the funny guys). Being a nazi was sort of chic at the time, just like it is chic nowadays to be a (yuck) vegetarian or an anti-globalization freak. Some people just got to have some shitty ideology to live by and it changes with the times. How hard it is to understand that WWII was not a colossal battle between good and evil, but a struggle of countries with slightly higher morals against countries with slightly lower morals? The countries that fought for their survival as a nation can not be classed to either side, because survival comes first (sometimes it means you got to deal with the devil).

Yes, every fifth voted for Le Pen. That means that every fifth believed the incredibly transparent shit that Le Pen poured from his mouth: Easy solutions to all problems, no taxes, blah... Thus every fifth of the people is a fucking moron, completely incapable of understanding anything. What does this mean to democracy? If 1/5 of the population are totally retarded, how about the rest of the population? Could they be almost as bad? Could it be that our leaders get chosen by a majority of stupid fools? Oh, yes, it's a beautiful world...

....how in his lab, a beaver-hating genetic engineer had perfected a virus to end the beaver threat forever. It was a hemorrhagic fever virus targeted to go virulent only in cells having beaver-specific sequences in their DNA. This twisted engineer had laced the tanks of crop-dusters everywhere with his virus, thus the whole world was filled with the virus. The mutant beaver had been infected by the virus, so before the security people could shoot this abomination, the beaver belched blood and died in a fit of convulsions. There was much rejoichment, when all beavers in the world died a similar death. Also, the virus was very resilient when dormant, so all future beavers raised from the death were bound to catch the virus and die promptly.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (E6Hotel @ May 04 2002,05:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Afghanistan:  Does hurting Queda’s ability to carry out terrorism make the world a better place or not?  We’re not the only ones with a stake in this, as evidenced by the Brits, Canucks, and Aussies there. Yugoslavia:  Late or not, what was our self-serving reason for entering this one? Gulf War: Okay, no argument there.  As far as Rwanda is concerned, are we expected to resolve every war on the planet?  We might need a little help with that one. Vietnam:  Again, what was our self-serving interest?  It might seem like hysteria now, but back then it was an attempt to help a country repel communist aggression. Korea:  See Vietnam.<span id='postcolor'> Afganistan: Yeah, yeah, it's your 'great patriotic war'. Good thing bombing some camel jockeys does it for you. Yugoslavia: In a democracy, politicians want to be re-elected. So if the press tells about the bad people killing the innocent people too much, then the illustrous politician has to do something to satisfy the John Smith slamming Budweiser and watching telly in a country bar. Also, munitions have an exiry date, so you have to dump them somewhere. But be careful to pull out before John starts to think: 'Our boyz are dying for nothing'. Bad press is always bad press. Gulf War: Yeah. Rwanda: The journalists just didn't drum this enough. Therefore it was not in the interest of the illustrous politicians. Vietnam: When you are a kid, you fear the evil monster living under your bed. When you grow up, the evil monster loses his scariness, so you have to have a new one: Enter evil communism, which lives in some countries around the world. So you went to Vietnam to fight the evil monster living under your bed, oops the evil communism. Korea: See Vietnam.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ May 06 2002,08:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You dont see a difference between car thieves and military soldiers when it comes to stealing equipment? Does that mean you think the soldiers are criminal or the car thieves are acting within the law?<span id='postcolor'> It's funny how at some point of a conflict, everything perpetrated by a single member of one side becomes the fault of all the people on that side. Like somebody steals a car = all the people on that side are car thieves. This does not normally happen. There is crime in every country, yet not all the people are considered to be criminals.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (E6Hotel @ May 05 2002,03:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I partially agree with some of your points. Â Returning to the pre-'67 border might strengthen Israel's moral position internationally, but don't forget that Israel already offered to return most (95%?) of the territory and was basically told by Arafat to get bent. Â One party has already shown that they are willing to negotiate; what has the other side shown?<span id='postcolor'> Oh, people always whine about how 'generous' it was to offer 95% of land and the evil pals declined. Let's make a comparison: If U.S. was under occupation, would you agree to a deal where you get all the land back, EXCEPT all the roads? This would efficiently fragment your new state to a ridiculous puzzle, forcing you to eat from the hand of the occupier of the roads. The so called 95% plan offered to the pals was just bullshit, because the israelis would have retained every strategically important area. The prison analogy is the best I have heard so far. In a prison, prisoners control 95% of the 'land' but the walls (5%) are controlled by the state. So in the negotiations, neither side has really offered anything worthwhile, thus showing that they are 'willing to negotiate'. Both sides are led by pig-headed bastards, only interested of the advantage of their own side.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ May 03 2002,10:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oligo, you hit the nail right on the head about the occupation, although some people refuse to acknowledge that it is a hostile occupation.<span id='postcolor'> There are a few telltale signs that point out that it is an occupation: -The pals are resisting with an organized force (using dubious tactics). Israelis call the organized force terrorists like the occupiers have always done in history. -The pals are not israeli citizens and thus cannot affect their plight with democratic voting means affecting the SUPREME authority of their land. They are effectively 'rightless' when it comes to the supreme decisions. This happens when there is a hostile occupation. -You may debate semantics, but just look at what a typical IDF soldier is facing. You patrol in an area where everybody (men, women, children) hates you and is out to kill you. A defending army normally enjoys the support of the civvie population, whereas an occupying army faces hostility from the people they are controlling.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ May 02 2002,20:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">point is, that the ppl that im among them, that ARE the IDF, that for couple of weeks are soldiers, that are facing difficult situations there, try to keep our humanity, not for you and not for the pals, although they deserve it one way or the other, but for us, so we could come back whole. this job is walking between the drops, on one hand, to do what i can to keep my men, and my ppl safe, and on the other not to humiliate the population. and i know that we do a quite good job at this,and watching any other army in the world at it, i know we do it better.<span id='postcolor'> The difference between your army and most of the other armies in the world is that you did a hostile takeover of land, which you now occupy, whereas most of the other armies are not occupying anything. That's why the other armies haven't taken casualties for a long time, whereas you take them all the time. That's also the reason why IDF is taking flak from the international community, people don't like aggression, you know. Also, the yanks like you so much, because they do the same crap themselves. Similarity promotes friendship.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ May 02 2002,08:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ May 02 2002,07:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">..... angelic defender of liberty for the IDF..... ..... stone-throwing, suicide bombing terrorists .....<span id='postcolor'> Sarcasm perhaps? Â <span id='postcolor'> Errr.... no?

You know, I read some interesting statistics recently: During her lifetime, an average israeli woman bears a little over two offspring (2.7 if I remember correctly) to become an angelic defender of liberty for the IDF. This child-production figure is slightly high for a 'western' country, but it is nothing compared to the average palestinian woman, who on the average produces over seven (7.2 if my memory serves me) stone-throwing, suicide bombing terrorists during her lifetime. This means the population of pals in Gaza and West Bank doubles every ten years. If the conflict was to go on for another fifty years for example, the pal population will have exploded to 32 times the current size. Of course all those people have had the fifty years of occupation to get more pissed. Oh, BTW, the seven children per woman is one of the highest reproduction speeds of human populations on Earth.

Then the darndest thing happened, because somebody had added some extra parts to the telly. These extra parts were a lump of plutonium and a container of hydrogen isotopes. The heat and pressure generated by the implosion of the telly caused the plutonium to attain a critical mass. Neutrons struck the heavy nuclei, which split up and released more neutrons. These neutrons split up more nuclei and soon an exponential fission chain reaction was on in the plutonium. In addition to neutrons, the splitting up of heavy nuclei released energy in the form of heat, light, gamma and other radiation. This radiation stimulated the hydrogen isotopes. The light nuclei sped up more and more, until the speed was enough to overcome the repulsion between nuclei. Some light nuclei fused and released tremendous amounts of energy in the form of radiation (heat, light, gamma, you name it). Pretty soon, a fusion chain reaction swept through the hydrogen isotopes. Stella, the evil beaver and assorted fuckheads at ground zero vaporized in a split second. As the radiation front (heat and light had the worst impression on people) advanced from the ground zero in the form of an expanding circle, anything caught in it's past was blinded and fried in the same time. Unfortunately, the worst part was still to come. The pressure wave, which the radiation had easily left behind, came next. It swept through anything that did not get blinded or fried. Like a hand of god. Air convections caused by the tremendous energy release lifted up debris and dust into the air. The ominous form of the mushroom cloud began to form. The midnight sun was shining upon the city.

How did they know she was VC? Did she have an ID on her?

....Mallory, Miller and the tank crew watched the mirage of the Huey and beavers march away to the void. The techno beat panged in their heads. 'Man, that was so real a hallucination. I mean, when the MG rounds cut me in half, I really thought I was dead, but obviously I was imagining it', the tank commander said. 'Yeah, I almost panicked when the stereo looked like it was destroyed, but since the music kept going, I realized I was just goddamn hallucinating it', Miller pondered. Mallory was looking a little green around the gills and the others could hear him mumble: 'Watching those beavers eat shit was fucking gross, even if I was imagining it.' The driver of the tank got bored, so he stepped on it and the tank roared forward. The surrounding red-light district quickly changed to...

Suddenly Miller blared: 'Wait just a second wait just a second!' Mallory turned his gaze from the Hueyborg and lookes at Miller with a nasty frown on his face. 'Look at the moon going up and down, up and down', Miller pointed out. Mallory checked the moon and truly it was going up and down. A realization struck Mallory: 'Oh, yes, we're tripping out of our heads! There are no beavers or Casey here! It's just a bad trip.' With this statement, all the bad things disappeared and the cool party was back. Miller put on the jungle techno CD and the soothing 'UTS UTS UTS' was back. Mallory told the tank commander that he wasn't really dead and soon everybody was just a happy camper again. Miller launched himself into a wild dance session, performing moves not quite possible for a human being with a bone structure. He yelled: 'I'm a frigging W0rM, I ()\/\/nZ U @||!'

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ April 25 2002,23:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and i didnt mean i needed sympathy but fact is that europe didnt raise a finger to pressure arafat to stop suicide bombers or any attacks rather then threaten him once in a while, and nothing like what europe is trying, threatening, etc. to do to us. sympathy wont stop them, and if u didnt even try, all we've got left, is again, only us.<span id='postcolor'> It's not that long ago that Sharon didn't even let the euro diplomats to meet Arafat. How are we going to tell him to stop his shit if you don't even let us to see him? Anyway, I know you are going to let them see Arafat now, so no point arguing about this particular matter. The israelis like the yanks as mediators, since they are pro-jew. The pals like euros as mediators, since they are pro-pal (at least more so than yanks). The way I see it, there are not any countries suitable to be mediators, since everybody has some kind of opinion on this conflict. It's a major problem. One interesting thing I read in the paper today (Time Magazine). Harry Kney-Tal, Israel's ambassador to the E.U. said (and I quote): 'These people (Euro leaders) are all pacifists. They don't like Israel or U.S. because we use force.' I wonder what is so goddamn wrong with being a little pacifist? Could this have something to do with two world wars that have been fought on european soil? Could euros be a little tired of war?

The music stopped, since Mallory was switching CDs. The gunner yelled from the turret: 'Let's bring the beat BACK!' He slammed the firing controls of the main gun, which belched fire through the enormous dust cloud caused by the muzzle shockwave. 'Now THAT's some goddamn base drum, man', Miller commented, ears ringing. Mallory nodded and pressed the 'PLAY' button with the new CD in...

Mallory mumbled: 'Awgh. Look at that pathetic Casey, all crippled and so, now also suffering an anaphylactic shock.' He thought for a while, shifting his weight on Casey's nuts. 'I'd better euthanase him like we do to disabled dogs and other animals', Mallory grunted, pulling a gun from his pocket. Miller grabbed Mallory's wrist and snapped: 'What the fuck? You going to kill crippled people now? What kind of sick shit are you?' Mallory returned an annoyed look: 'Oh come on, he is in pain. Let's end it.' A pain-filled grunt from Casey made both Mallory and Miller to look. It seemed that Casey had died of the allergic reaction. Mallory was pissed: 'See, now he died before I got to shoot him. What the fuck, man? You trying to deny me some fun?' Miller punched Mallory to the face and stood up: 'Get real, dick. Let's go and deliver that CD to Boris.' As they were leaving the basement, Miller asked: 'Where the hell did you learn words like anaphylactic shock?' 'Med school', Mallory replied. Outside, Miller and Mallory hitched a ride on a passing Merkava tank. The commander of the tank was turned out. He offered Mallory a sticker with a picture of penguin in it: 'How about some acid? We're going to a rave party.'

... only to be grabbed by the IDF Sergeant. 'You're not supposed to be here, bloody hippie', the IDF sergeant said and carried the amnesty international observer away. An IDF private looked into the room and said: 'Sorry about the inconvenience, those assholes get everywhere.' Then the grunt graciously closed the door. 'Now where were we?' Casey asked.

It's hard to start any proactive peace initiatives, when the Israelis tell us to fuck off.

....trousers, but suddenly the door blew in. Casey turned around only to observe a bunch of IDF soldiers bursting in. Casey yelled: 'Fuck, I knew I should not have bought a building in the West Bank area.' The IDF sergeant gave Casey a flower.