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<span style='font-size:10pt;line-height:100%'>Pavlov's Dogs</span> Check this out its EEERY its like a real ATAT.. Its called "BIG DOG" Stats. (Some vairy from recent field tests acording to multiple sites Science & robotics sites.) Big Dog: Max Speed:       3.3-6 Mph. Max climb angle:    35-45 degree slope. Max Cargo Weight:  120-160lbs. Jump Hight:       2-3.5ft. Length:          1 Meter. Hight:           7 Decimetres. Unloaded Weight:   75kg. (Can Operate Indipendantly) Here is a youtube video of it. BIG DOG Testing being Kicked over.. But to get full quality video go here BDI website BIG DOG INFO+Video its FREAKY here is a render of final product, Here is a link to some Freaky "Übermäßige Waffen" Defence Tech robots that kill Whats your thoughts on this? im not saying anything yet as i mite sound like an old fart.. ..but damn it! Its Just not Cricket! p.s any ideas on how to take some of these metal beasts down if we were playing arma as OPFOR? p.p.s any one remember Pavlov's Dog story?

I agree although they dont seem to be bothering if some one is doing it manuly? which puts alot of strain on one guy, speeking of which. great work! but err could some one decode the opfor grenader? please. id like to add some custom Face Armor i found for the Soviet SSh-60 type helmate. kinda like the u.s face armour used in Iraq, but its one part & has better protection of the neck. Any of the OPFOR models would do realy, as longs they have helmet.

 OMG this is from the guy who called Global warming DATA "Speculation" was this thesame guy who called climatologist's "Sensasionalists"  Nah this is to do with the Climate Report they are only telling HALF the story if that, one of 2 things have happend. CLIMATE REPORT ABUSE! 1# he has been Forced to do this.(maybe "god" told him to do this?)           or 2# somthing scared the shit out of him. Governemnts, Specialy Bush's Govt.  Dont do the right thing unless they have to as its not normaly profitable, there's more to this... hmmm uhm Dood thats not cool what about Farmers & people that have to use heavy vehicles for a living? like trucks.. that bring your food to your local store? I mean yeh i agree in priciple, why do all these  women who can barely see over the wheel need huge V6 4x4's in the centre of city's?? (as an example) But it should take into acount the difference's/Needs between Urban populations & Rural populations.

Nice thread but teh Poll needs more choices like THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM NOW.. & most of the people who dont think Climate problems are happening NOW because of HUMANS base that on the fact that there well waterd pot plants are ok & the Concrete paths & tarmac roads look the same color....

hehe skyfish told you it owuld be fun. yeh i read in the doc i have infront of me that you should only take power output of wind turbines at 30% of its maximum rated output per year, acording to Scottish Power. & the sound is generaly 37-45db (sound level) up to 300 meters from base of turbine's, ( & acording to UK LAW its a contradiction for industry to cause more than 5db over the ambient noise) But Wind farms & other "Special industrys" get let of the hook. & if you read what im reading, its prety Blatant that they take Rural individual complaints  & concerns with total contempt & have  total disregard for compaints that directly conflict with there view's. they also state there are hazzerds to birds but "they try to avoid it within there means..."  or whatever dosent cut into there proffits.. They also clearly admit that there is Electric interference with TV/radio reception's, Personal Communications equipment, &  that "they try to minimize this to as few people as possible with the help of local services." were talking about 110 meter turbines here.. p.s the life span is only 25 years.. its some read i tell you.

have a search for it i dont take it to seriously, but it would be a laugh. I think the human persistancee of vision is about 24 frames per second. Well some specialsts (mostly street nutters), are saying these things go faster than the human eye can detect, or make them verry faded so as they would be practicaly invisible, unless you used a camera or some kind of HIGH FPS recording device, & slow it down. Some specialists have tried to catch it, although one guy said he cought one & said it evaported within minutes cough cough.. which if you belive it would explain no dead ones laying all over the place, Also some Photografic specialists say its probably flys or moths  that blur, but if you take a look through realy High rate image capture devices aparently its not a blur & is an individual insect of sorts, although i aint seen a pic yet of a bug & one of tehse things in same shot...  but there has been documentrys on it aparently, so theoreticly these God awful windturbines could be killing tons of these things & there just evaporating... pitty those gulls & starlings coudlent do teh same lol.

agreed, as have i The financial Side of it is quite a viable alternative but i still prefer hands on easy non intrusive method of going about it. But chill out a bit baff, hey at least you can make a thread about the Financial Alternative & not have to worry about it being merged.... another reason im agianst Wind Turbines, Not only do they kill Birds & cause hastle for rural peopel forced to live near them, they also might be killing Skyfish hehe bet the planning dept. would love this one... Â go for it baff... id love to hear what you got to say about this one.. Â

PLease GOD Look at this Funy to any one even NON treky's! if not MORE SO! Star Tits

Could an Admin Plz Lock this Thread Or give a warning to the people who are going totaly OT. totaly OT.. baff.. Totaly...

you should be thinking hey less money the government has to spend on weapons & ammo to kill people the better service im doing humanity.. but this is geting prety ot m8 i know you like money but...

well said about the money aspect Red kite, I was going to say sonmthing similar, but you coverd it well. & I do feal the Money aspect is a little of topic, although we wouldent have learned about that Option, as it sounds a better Option than Solar & Wind for Urban Inhabitants, as longs the energy they are buying from the proffits aint being bought from Wind turbines that are forced on the rural people. As for Wind being a better option than Solar, well not entierly true, did you Read the Government website about wind speeds in UK on avrage? they differ greatly some places only have a mild breez for months on end! that would get the Wind turbine up to Start speed let alone being charging at 200watts. it would be greatly reduced. On alot of the land mass in the Uk you would be better off with Solar when you compare the prices, & those were VERY pricy solar pannels that were 2-3rd class. so the gap of per watt will be less, when i egt the trade prices for thsoe pannels. where as you can for the next few billion years rely on the suns energy, to be relativly constant. & Cloud cover dosent stop solar pannels from charging, its about ambient light aswell, only the realy old pannels were heavily affected if they couldent get Direct blazing sunlight, the new ones only need AMBIENT light! & you will still get a good charge.

cool must have a hunt for one. p.s it was a fluke the prices between solar pannels & those turbines turned out so similar. but im shure they will even out if not PV i feal shoudl slightly overtake Turbines, but lets see. Hey do you think thats like a Retail price fixing thing? to keep them similar?

lol Nice, although i thought they only worked in deserts & or high altitude?

you want to try defending a flawd argument carry on, personally if some one went to the toruble of trying to help me & correct my understanding i would pay a little gratitude. However I will have some Trade prices for you all. probably after monday though. Well than you would need 1 more Pannel to be safe. but it would power that nicely, although it depends on how old the fridge is, & its Draw. (older not as efficiant) As for those Biomedical Freezers that went to afrika maybe they were made in U.S or U.K Because Finland has the worlds best reputation for making Biomedical Freezers that DONT break down within there working life span, & that Run with Finish designed Pannels. well found it for 942.50 ex postage using current exchange rates. although like i said its not a great pannel & its rather exspensive, You wouldent pay near that if your a smart buyer. As for the kettle reel well you are getting desperate lol, & it must be a crap one... But if you Like doing maths, I suggest you try a more realistic slant, as you Are using a slant, & its a rather negative one, when your sourcing your number. If you dont like solar pannels for some reason just say, as I dont like Wind turbines & its not for any Financial reasons although they are rather exspensive, it just they mess up my living, in lots of little ways & in some Big ways. However here is somthing that you can chew on. Wind versus PV cells. So Solar 1st. thats about 6 hours (on winter day), 6x 200Watts = 1200x2 Watts = 2400W generated within a 24hour cycle. = 876,000 watts a year & that would be 942.50 GBP (if we are forced to use this Currency) plus tax, ex postage from an Arazona Supplier, (fastest price search i could find can get ALOT better & closer to E.U) + an extra 500 For battery's Relays Cables, a power control etc. So thats about 1442.50 GBP Ready to be installed. for 20 years thats about 72.13 GBP per year at 876,000. Watts of power over 365 days. TOTAL =8.23 pence per Watt  Taking it at its NET worst 6hrs daylight per 24hrs all year round. (ok i never did this calculation b4 im hopeing this is cheaper than wind power lol... but the disruption caused with turbines outweighs solar for me.) Wind Turbine Power. These are  2x 200 watt wind turbine's from China so as longs its not made in UK it will probably last for the 20 years stated,  hehe. Wind Turbine So lets base it Similarly to the Solar Pannel figure, 1 200W trubine has a start speed of 3ms (wind speed) but lets take it that your operating it say randomly in.... Gainsborough UK SK 825 898  thats the Grid Coordinates from OS use that here to calculate the avrage wind speed in Meters per second. (Read the page thorugh) Avrage Wind speed Calculator UK So take at its worse case scenario using government figures (UK) we can call it 5ms our trubine will get on AVRAGE if you live there.(Notice im giving it a head start by not reducing it) Now im going to borrow a precalculated sum as.. Im not touching it lol. So lets call it 1x105 Watts per hour & were being nice. (Please note the Specs of the generator qouted above & the one used in the sum are Similar). It Costs about 470.00 GBP each  plus Tax, Ex Postage. That comes to 940.00 GBP ex postage, + 500 for batteries & misc. = 1,440 GBP, Ex Postage. they would produce 210W per hour x 20 hours out of 24hrs thats 4200W per 24hrs with 4 hours of wind at 3ms or lower,  (again thats being nice) depandant on where you live, & it has to be a 3ms wind to actuly start turning let alone charge. = 1,533,000 Watts per year. = 1,440 GBP, Ex Postage. GBP Ready to be installed. for 20 years thats about 72 GBP per year TOTAL =4.7 pence per Watt  Taking it at its NET Avrage of 5ms 20 hours operation per 24hrs all year round. So lets compare thats ...... oh oh no, ah crap.. well there loud!  & they are ugly. p.s could some one double check my maths? P.p.S I will show you its cheaper when i get those trade prices for some quality PV cells.

Nice one BUZZARD  although i could see how some jerry's mite get a little twitchy when they hear proped aircraft near dams  WRONG, (ooh that felt good almost Like the way Patty & Selma say it in simpsons when there evil to poor old Homer) hmm ok lets go with the fridge thing... So lets say your Using an EvaKool large 120 Litre Fridge-Freezer, It uses about 92Watts per hour thats about 2Kw for every 24hrs. (one day) or 2208 watts per day. Now the power can come from PV cells (solar pannels) say you bought 2 low quality Sanyo 200 Watt PV cells, thats (per hour at peak, which latss for about 30 years at 80% or greater, its not a quality example ,but quick to find) Lets take it at realy bad situation, you get 6 hours of daylight during winter, (if you get any less than that what the hell are you Living there for? the night life??) So thats about 6 X 200Watts thats 1200x2 Watts you will generate on aa winters day, about 35% Less during couldy days but not normaly that much, (& yes they work on Heavy overcast days its about the LIGHT not just the heat from the sun) so thats 2400 in 24hrs. ready to rock with. & lets say you arent so stuborn that you would actuly use Batteries to Save the extra power you make for the Non Generating period. you would Generate about ~2400watts in one solar cycle but you only use about ~2208watts, & you realy dont need a 120 litre fridge freezer so its going to be half that. In general, Yeh you can power a fridge Freezer 24hrs a day on a solar pannel, & the ones i was talking about are only about 52inches long by 35 inches wide. (but they aint great quality compared to  the "Proper ones") its just Maths (which i aint hot at.) now you can get better ones than that & think you can power your whole house & save HEAPS of money in the long run, even if you MOVE! Also here is some cool Military one's... Uhemmm looks like they are playing VBS2  i guese its cheaper than simuntionts. (that cant be good for his posture.) although ive seen some lighter Chinese Military versions online used alot for sports trecking. p.s i would rip your ideas apart more but i had to work it out on the spot & i cant find teh damn calculations i did for my place convertion.. grrr bring on SSD's i hate Magnetic platters, always loosing file. (Update) ah damn you got there before me.. OMG io was doing sums for 2 hours lol)