Hardliner

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Frag Haus Capt Morgan @ Mar. 06 2002,22:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hardliner @ Mar. 06 2002,17:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I read a review on some World War 2 flight sim on the Eastern front and it said the game wouldn't be popular because america was not involved. I guess its no surprise that all americans want to be... american in these games.<span id='postcolor'> Well hardliner this statement is semi false. Any true flight sim Fan Knows that Flanker truely had its day. Â Yes their where american aircraft you could fly but limited. Â You mainly had to use russian aircraft. Also lock on is another flight sim that is suppose to be comeing out and is very well anticipated by the flight sim community. Oh it is a russian based flight sim. If you go to their site you will see people are posting on a foroum for months for a game not even close to being done. Yes I agree with your point but only about with half of it.<span id='postcolor'> I don't read many reviews. Its just one I saw.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Frag Haus Capt Morgan @ Mar. 06 2002,22:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hardliner @ Mar. 06 2002,17:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I read a review on some World War 2 flight sim on the Eastern front and it said the game wouldn't be popular because america was not involved. I guess its no surprise that all americans want to be... american in these games.<span id='postcolor'> Well hardliner this statement is semi false. Any true flight sim Fan Knows that Flanker truely had its day. Â Yes their where american aircraft you could fly but limited. Â You mainly had to use russian aircraft. Also lock on is another flight sim that is suppose to be comeing out and is very well anticipated by the flight sim community. Oh it is a russian based flight sim. If you go to their site you will see people are posting on a foroum for months for a game not even close to being done. Yes I agree with your point but only about with half of it.<span id='postcolor'> I don't read many reviews. Its just one I saw.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (I)eaI)Eye1809 @ Feb. 26 2002,09:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont really know about that conflict but i think it would be cool to kill some afganis after what they did on 911 i would like to be american though   <span id='postcolor'> Alot of people would feel the same way about the USA, wanting to killing americans I mean. But in this Afgan-Soviet war you can't be american. I know america supported afgan but I don't think they actively paticipated. I read a review on some World War 2 flight sim on the Eastern front and it said the game wouldn't be popular because america was not involved. I guess its no surprise that all americans want to be... american in these games.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (I)eaI)Eye1809 @ Feb. 26 2002,09:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont really know about that conflict but i think it would be cool to kill some afganis after what they did on 911 i would like to be american though   <span id='postcolor'> Alot of people would feel the same way about the USA, wanting to killing americans I mean. But in this Afgan-Soviet war you can't be american. I know america supported afgan but I don't think they actively paticipated. I read a review on some World War 2 flight sim on the Eastern front and it said the game wouldn't be popular because america was not involved. I guess its no surprise that all americans want to be... american in these games.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Espectro @ Mar. 06 2002,15:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think the estimated dead civilians died by bombs in afg was 3500 or something? right?<span id='postcolor'> Don't forget the US troops that were bombed by their OWN aircraft. And a few crashes of aircraft.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Espectro @ Mar. 06 2002,15:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think the estimated dead civilians died by bombs in afg was 3500 or something? right?<span id='postcolor'> Don't forget the US troops that were bombed by their OWN aircraft. And a few crashes of aircraft.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Mar. 06 2002,16:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I like to complain about the people who like to complain about the people who complain. Â P.S. Isn't this thread dead yet?<span id='postcolor'> Soon everything will be dead. And by the way I don't post comments like that because I like it.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MosquitoMkVI @ Mar. 06 2002,15:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">NOTE: people do NOT need to grow up because they wan't a tool that you don't care about!!<span id='postcolor'> Whatever you rekon... You do, say and think what you like. I'll do, say and think what I like. But I'm not the one complaining like a little child that is denied that little toy. I don't go like this when I don't get something I want unlike some others. People complain about not having it and then you have people that complain about the people that complain. So what do you want? You want people to complain and act like children? Well thats fine with me. Just DON'T you start complaining about it after this post.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Adstar @ Mar. 06 2002,01:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Leta face the facts people the main reasion that the Arab's Hate the Yanks is becouse of their totaly one sided support of Israel and any thing the israelies do. why does the israeli tail wag the Yanky dog? There is a well organised Zionistic movement in the USA that can deliver millions of votes to any party that gives Israel the most support so both parties compete to be the most pro- zionist. Also most of the move making corperations are owned by (Guess who?) you have got it Zionists so they make movies that demonise Arabs and Muslims to brainwash the yanky mushrooms. We all know that they have a lot of cash to "donate" to political organsations. So the zionists could go out and kidnap all the palistinian children and through them into the Gas chambers and I can garente you the USA would still blindly support ISrael.<span id='postcolor'> There are so many things I can say about current events... but it would only cause more conflict here so I will not even bother...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Adstar @ Mar. 06 2002,01:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Leta face the facts people the main reasion that the Arab's Hate the Yanks is becouse of their totaly one sided support of Israel and any thing the israelies do. why does the israeli tail wag the Yanky dog? There is a well organised Zionistic movement in the USA that can deliver millions of votes to any party that gives Israel the most support so both parties compete to be the most pro- zionist. Also most of the move making corperations are owned by (Guess who?) you have got it Zionists so they make movies that demonise Arabs and Muslims to brainwash the yanky mushrooms. We all know that they have a lot of cash to "donate" to political organsations. So the zionists could go out and kidnap all the palistinian children and through them into the Gas chambers and I can garente you the USA would still blindly support ISrael.<span id='postcolor'> There are so many things I can say about current events... but it would only cause more conflict here so I will not even bother...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (grasshopperbe @ Mar. 05 2002,19:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i deleded ofp yesterday since i was bored to death with it i prefer the free disc space instead (have 20g free ) red hammer was absolutely not worth its money, since i had the upgrades so its only the extra missions i played about 2, never looked at it again and about those tools : in each and every good game (quake, nfs series, max payne, and so much more) we could mod everything, in comparison to other games BIS SUCKS big time im quite sure im never going to buy anything from those guys anymore<span id='postcolor'> Grow Up.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (InRange @ Mar. 06 2002,13:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One other thing you might want to practice in the editor is shooting down choppers with a tank. It might come in handy in more than one occasion.<span id='postcolor'> I get shot at by tanks while flying an SU25.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MosquitoMkVI @ Mar. 05 2002,15:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If the price were reasonable, then definitely. I can understand BIS not wanting to give away proprietary tools, so I would be willing to purchase them, just not for $100+.<span id='postcolor'> I feel the same way, but if I had alot of money I would buy it.

Not sure if anything was said about this in the past but wouldn't FP be good if it had trains that you could get into and drive? And have missions were you gotta deliver supplies to troops in need? Altho it might put extra pressure on some systems. Also wouldn't it be good to have a knife so you could sneek up to unsusspecting soldiers and slit their throats like in Hidden & Dangerous? Or be able to wear enemy uniforms like in H&D Fight for Freedom? Or how about giving the Spetz Natz a spade to use as a close quarters weapon or being able to throw it at someone then run up to pick it up and reuse it. Someone put a link up before that went to a part of a book on Spetz Natz and when I read the spade bit I just had to smile! And in the vehical range would the BM-21 be a good choice of weapons for FP? How about with chemical rockets as well as the normal rockets? Altho I think I saw a posting about this one before. Also I was wondering if an AA missile system would be out of the question. It would be great to be flying an SU25 and suddenly a missile comes flying your way! With realistic ranges like it fires at you before you get close, but not too far range i guess. Maybe a bit longer range than the ZSU. Just a few thoughts...

Last time I looked they didn't have all the music. I just looked for an extractor to extract the ogg files (the music files) then looked for a converter to convert the ogg files into mp3 format the files I got are only small. If anyone wants them go to a search engine and look for Goldwave (converter) or... actually I think I got it all from the avon page if I remember that far back. Look there. Call me sad but I listen to the music all the time when not playing the game.

In this case it is logical to believe that the SU25 would seem to have flown in from another Island.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bloodmixer @ Mar. 05 2002,10:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So basically anyone with benchmark of say > 1500 will be able to have an equal amount of viewdistance ?<span id='postcolor'> I only get a benchmark of 750

Flying a chopper is fun anyway. It will come with practice. It did not take me long to get the hang of it and not long at all to land it on desert island (more space) now I am better at landing in smaller areas. Now all I have to do is try landing the SU25.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Armourdave @ Mar. 04 2002,14:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You sound like the kind of person that just wants wants wants and is never satisfied.<span id='postcolor'> *Gasp* You mean..a woman? Â <span id='postcolor'> I would not know. I do not know any woman.

On the second campaign mission called "Flashpoint" when we went in to take Morton there was a loud smash, looked around to see that one of the cobra's flew into the church tower. It seemed funny looking at the smoke and hearing the rotor still powering down while the cobra was bouncing around where it had fell. The strange thing about it is when I played the same mission not long after it happened again, same place same chopper. Its like you don't need to shoot these guys down because their own failed training will do it for you I'm waiting to see if it will happens a third time.

Why the hell would you do something childish like this? You sound like the kind of person that just wants wants wants and is never satisfied.

Why the hell would you ditch a great game like OFP simply because you can't make it the way YOU want it? Its a GREAT game and I'm happy with the Mission Editer. BIS made it... their not answerable to anyone.

I like the way in a tank fight you can destroy the main gun but the rest of the tank is in perfect shape. Have had 3 Abrams driving around me with no gun, now they ain't much use. Its also great how the enemy never hits you again after they damage your main gun. Just go right up to them and fire and they never shot you.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CCCP @ Feb. 27 2002,15:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey, how about stopping the blah blah about which is better and make an organised effort to compile a list of wanted Soviet equipment, which is obviousely missing and to balance the western variety:<span id='postcolor'> Well how about air units? The MIG29 first flown in 1977 entered service 1983. It would be good to have TU-160 bombers (altho they entered service in 1987 but first flown in 1981), maybe have them on call to carpet bomb an area. Having the Foxbat (entered 1966) and the Flanker (1984) and Flogger (1973) Foxhound (1983) would be good too altho I guess too many air units wouldn't be wise? And how about them BM-21 Rocket Artillery trucks with normal or chemical rockets option along with the 2S3 Akatsia artillery (not sure on dates). How about AA Missile systems like the ZRK-SD Romb? (again date unsure) I have no western ideas but maybe later. Sorry for taking up so much space again and not having dates on certain units.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (captainwhiskers @ Feb. 28 2002,02:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How mad would a Soviet mission be based on the opening days of the war when the Spetnaz stormed a palace and took out the Afghan leader at the time. I saw a TV doco on this once and it was a huge fire fight - Spetnaz kicked ass though. Lots of convoy escort missions would be a must. Search and destroy missions by airborne troops in the mountains would be cool. Street to street fighting was pretty common also. Yeah they have to do this campaign.<span id='postcolor'> I saw a doc that sounds similer... the one I saw the Spetz Natz were out numbered, had to storm a building defended by alot of gaurds and it was in pitch black darkness with no support (sounds like Red Hammer). The Spetz Natz guy said the only way they could tell enemy from friend was from all the cursing that was being yelled. Missions based on real events would be ok with me.