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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Maraudeur @ April 10 2003,21:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What appears is that coalition forces used a storm of fire to make the defenders enclosed in selected parts of the town without mobility to feel any resistance is futile and desesperate, would result in a complete detruction of the town and enormous Iraqui civilians deads. Iraquis, for which civilians are not only civilians as for us who are just external observators, but their own nation : wifes, childs, parents, etc.<span id='postcolor'> Are you saying that the Iraqi military hasn't fought effectively because they're concerned for the welfare of Iraqi civilians? Apologies in advance if I misinterpreted. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ZIKAN @ April 09 2003,18:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But there is a time and a place for everything, and that was the wrong moment to fly the American flag like they did. Hopefully no harm done and it wont detract from what the coalition has achieved.<span id='postcolor'> Concur. I was wincing as I watched the flag being passed up. "No, no, nooo..." Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ZIKAN @ April 09 2003,17:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ooops... they almost spoiled the moment by draping the American flag on that statue for a few minutes, didnt go down well with the Iraqi's, what were they thinking of? Â <span id='postcolor'> Good initiative, bad judgment. Â But didja notice the Iraqi standing on the statue's base waving the American flag? Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ April 08 2003,23:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They must be preparing to do some major dammage to people or propery and don't want reporters around.<span id='postcolor'> [scooby-Doo villain] And we'd have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for you meddling kids! [/scooby-Doo villain] Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jinef @ April 09 2003,0000)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How the Marines can run to their sing alongs is beyond me!<span id='postcolor'> "If you have enough air to call cadence, you're runnin' too slow." -- The Pitt Viper (Not our Pit Viper, one of my platoon sergeants from FAST Co) Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ April 08 2003,22:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">any US mil songs here?!? c'mon! Marines! You know where Montezuma is located!<span id='postcolor'> Don't get me started on the Halls of Montezuma. Â A few years ago I visited Chapultepec with my then-girlfriend now-wife, a Mexican citizen. Â I made the mistakes of explaining the lyrics of "The Marine's Hymn" and, not sensing the danger, the significance of the dress blues trouser bloodstripe.* Â The couch was most uncomfortable that night. *Corps lore claims that the bloodstripe symbolizes the officers and NCO's who died in the battle. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 08 2003,19:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">- counting all the "ground" effectives (US Army , USMC , US SOP) , what percent of the US armed forces does the USMC represents ?<span id='postcolor'> Without googling it up, I couldn't tell you. Â Sorry. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 08 2003,19:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">- are the effectives of the USMC representative of the rest of the US Military ?<span id='postcolor'> Of course not! Â Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ April 08 2003,19:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I told you already twice, this is what's been on TV. Â Which fact have I ignored so far?<span id='postcolor'> 1) Â Denoir was under the impression that minorities dominated the U.S. military and did the "dying and the bleeding." 2) Â I provided stats and photos of coalition KIA's showing that minorities do not demographically dominate the U.S. military and do not do a disproportionate share of the dying and the bleeding. 3) Â You told Denoir that he was correct, willfully ignoring the evidence to the contrary. There we are. Â To summarize, I don't debate that minorities are disproportionately represented in the military. Â I do debate that they're doing all the "dying and the bleeding." Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ April 08 2003,1903)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">EDIT: I'm telling it like it is, you guys can research this and find facts, I'm not going to waste my time investigating every little detail of U.S. forces. Â Not interesting at all. Â <!--emo&<!--emo&<span id='postcolor'> Sorry you find the facts uninteresting. Â As you are prone to do, you're telling it like you mistakenly believe it to be, regardless of what the actual facts indicate. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ April 08 2003,18:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yep this issue has been one of the discussion items on North American TV for a while now. Â From all those shows it seems you are right Denoir. Â Can't cover it up.<span id='postcolor'> So which of my facts are you disputing? Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 08 2003,18:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Really? It's possible that I'm wrong. I think that I read somewhere that the ethninc minorities were vastly overrepresented in the military. Don't know where though, so it's possible that I remembered it wrong. Â <span id='postcolor'> I've heard that when compared to the entire population minorities make up a slightly higher percentage. That's not the same as "doing the dying and bleeding," though. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 08 2003,17:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmm. 49% of the African Americans support the war. Could it be because of the fact that the US military is dominated by ethinc minorities? That they are the ones actually dying and bleeding?<span id='postcolor'> Check your facts. Â From the 2003 Marine Corps almanac: 174,904 Marines, 117,866 classified as "white." Â One in three Marines is a minority. Here are photos of the KIA so far, check the faces. Â Casualties Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 07 2003,23:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sure you have freedom of speech. Look just at Al-Jazeera getting kicked out of Nasdaq and Dow. Or Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect" show. Are those also shining examples of freedom of speech?<span id='postcolor'> Maher's freedom of speech was never infringed -- after cancellation he remained free to say whatever he liked. Â The Bill of Rights, however, does not guarantee a person the right to host a television show. Â Unfortunately for some celebrities, one person's freedom of speech is another person's freedom to ignore. EDIT: Â Nevermind, I think Tex covered it. Â Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 07 2003,23:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You have one at the bridge where an amphibious vehicle (dunno if it was a Bradley) was hit by an arty round and two marines were killed.<span id='postcolor'> It was an amphibious assault vehicle (AAV). Â Apparently an arty round landed directly on the turret. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (killagee @ April 07 2003,06:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/iraqwar_ru_022.htm<span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In An-Najaf, after 3 days of gunning and bombardment the 101st Airborne Division marines were able to advance towards the center of the town and are now fighting in the market region.<span id='postcolor'> Dayum, those Airborne Marines are tough! Â What's the Russian word for "proofread"? I'm afraid this translation error seriously diminishes my ability to trust the GRU. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Schoeler @ April 05 2003,06:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL, the rules kida go to shit when you have thousands of screaming maniacal people charging towards your position. Â Thats how human wave attacks succeed. Â They come out of nowhere and very suddenly you are enveloped in suicidal charging killers. Â They lose a lot of men, but the tradeoff if they can overrun the position before air and arty support is called in, is a big bodycount for their enemy as well.<span id='postcolor'> "Wave attacks" by the military aren't going to accomplish much. Â If civvies are herded along (willingly or not), things could get messy. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (|iCeMaN| @ April 04 2003,22:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">After all, wasn't Tom Clancy an ex-marine? Â I know he was in some branch of the military. Â And there are some great games based on his books too. <span id='postcolor'> Clancy is an ex-insurance salesman. Â I don't think he served. Â Entertaining writer, though. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 04 2003,12:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">CentCom has confirmed that they blew the power out so that they could conduct recon within the city.<span id='postcolor'> Got a link for that? Â Here's the exchange from today's CENTCOM briefing and I don't see anything remotely like a confirmation: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Q Â Â (Inaudible.) Â British press quoted sources here -- (inaudible) -- that the power station in Baghdad was hit deliberately to pave the way for deployment of Special Forces into the city. What's your comment? Â Â Â Â Â Â GEN. BROOKS: Â We saw that the power went off in Baghdad last night. Â We didn't do it. Â It's as simple as that. Â Â Â Â Â Â Next question?... Q Â Â General, the failure of the power grid in Baghdad last night seemed fortuitously timed for the ground action that the coalition was taking. Â The coalition says that they didn't target the power grid. Â Could the lights have been turned off by fifth column working, whose goals were in alliance with the coalition, or do you believe the regime turned off the lights? Â Â Â Â Â Â GEN. BROOKS: Â I wouldn't want to speculate on who actually turned them off. Â We know we didn't direct it. Â And we certainly have had some concerns about the power in Baghdad. Â We tried to do a number of things to protect the people of Baghdad. Â Electrical power in Baghdad also relates to water in Baghdad. Â Electrical power in Baghdad also relates to power in hospitals in Baghdad. Â That's not part of the coalition design at this point, so I wouldn't characterize it the way you did as fortuitous. Â It's a matter of concern at this point in time for the population that's inside of Baghdad. Â I think we have time for one more. Â In the row behind -- yes, sir, with your hand up?<span id='postcolor'> CENTCOM Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ April 04 2003,06:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Iraqi Informer Was Angered At POW Treatment<span id='postcolor'> Holy Jeebus. Â That guy must clang when he walks. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bernadotte @ April 04 2003,00:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Has there been any indication of Iraq using decoys like the inflatable tanks deployed by the Yugoslav army in Kosovo?<span id='postcolor'> Yes, unfortunately for the Iraqi army they didn't stand a chance against our foam rubber A-10 Warthogs. Â Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 04 2003,00:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Again, the odd thing is that there has been almos to contact with RG units. Intelligence reports indicate that the bombing of  their positions did insignificant damage since they were spread out and dug in. There are however no reports of them getting back into Baghdad. So you have two divisions with at least one armored brigade on the loose, but nobody knows where they are. Is that not a bit strange to you?<span id='postcolor'> Obviously we're getting conflicting reports.  From what I've heard the Air Force worked the RG over pretty well.  In addition, I haven't seen anything about heavy attacks on the supply lines.  If there were 300 tanks running around in some kind of organized manner I'm confident that we'd know about it. I've seen the brass claiming that they were able to "get inside the decision" and cut the RG off before they could return to Baghdad, but I'm skeptical.  I hope I'm wrong and that the AF knocked them out, but I suspect that most of these missing tanks will turn up in the city. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 03 2003,22:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">At this point it's bloody difficult to say WTF the Iraqis are up to. Is this a sign that their defences are breaking down? Or are they withdrawing into urban areas? There have been some strange developments the last 48 hours.<span id='postcolor'> No need to over-complicate things. Â The surviving Iraqi troops that still want (or have) to fight have probably pulled back. Â It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that this will be settled in Baghdad. Not an earth-shattering analysis, but that's how I see it. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 02 2003,20:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">in France , each infantry squad normally has one .308 marksman whose role is counter sniping , observation and support for the other squad members<span id='postcolor'> The USMC has been evaluating adding a "designated marksman" to the squad T/O whose role would be similar.  The impetus has been the desire to deliver more precise fire in urban environments.  Right now, though, we don't have that type of capability, and if one is added he'll more than likely be equipped with an M16A4 with 4x or maybe 6x optics.  Like I mentioned earlier, though, I don't think 5.56 or even 7.62 would be adequate to stop a vehicle before it could travel a couple hundred meters.  Especially if you're firing a bolt gun. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 02 2003,20:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">we've got SASR groups (the PGM Hécates) at a compagny scale , last time i checked , in my reserve unit of combat engineer (that's not at all representative of the rest of the french army) , we had 2 to 4 Hécates used by the protection squads and detachements<span id='postcolor'> Our EOD and engineers have SASR's too, but they're for detonating mines or unexploded ordnance.  They don't receive the kind of marksmanship training it would require to disable threat vehicles. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 02 2003,20:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i agree with that , but it's not impossible to detach a small group of snipers , and are the two SASR's really necessary to gather intel ?<span id='postcolor'> It's not impossible but it would be an inefficient use of resources. Â Granted, SASR's don't have much to do with the intel side of the job, but going back to the sniping side... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 02 2003,20:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i mean , how in the hell the first army of the world still relies on its snipers in a desert warfare envirronement when they have all kinds of IR , NV and so on equipped planes and helicopters ?<span id='postcolor'> Eyes on beats all the gadgets listed above. Semper Fi

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 02 2003,20:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">heh , why the batallion C/O won't give up his specialized men ? to use them as counter sniping group in the middle of the desert ? to snipe camels ?<span id='postcolor'> Scout/snipers do more than just take rifle shots. Â They're a vital intel asset. Semper Fi