Duke_of_Ray

IRC chats are the most enjoyable to me.

I'm of the opinion that we should convert them all to Christianity and kill those who resist the process- what do you think, DoR? I think your probably the best froum member ever! Also I think that statement is insane. We should try to make them like beans and if they don't make them eat rice. Eh, it was worth a shot. Welcome back, DoR. Thanks amigo. I think that we can have some most brilliant discussions here. We might even become best of friends, that disagree on a few things. Anyways I am happy to be here, but I had better get back on topic before Placebo sends me packing!!!

I'm of the opinion that we should convert them all to Christianity and kill those who resist the process- what do you think, DoR? I think your probably the best froum member ever! Also I think that statement is insane. We should try to make them like beans and if they don't make them eat rice.

I assume you would be punished with a brief jail term.

This is why that part of the world will never see peace. Atleast not until all those who are like this are wiped of the face of the earth.

I think the Air Force is getting some sexy tiger stripes uniforms. I can't wait to get one.

When I am playing the CLSA mod some of the missions will not work because it says I do not have the addon PRIM. Where can I get this? I searched the boards and other places, but no luck. Thanks for any help

When I am playing the CLSA mod some of the missions will not work because it says I do not have the addon PRIM. Where can I get this? I serached the boards and other places, but no luck. Thanks for any help!

Maybe the Democrats can get him to run for prez in 4 years. Sings: "And I have 4 Purple Hearts!" americans don't like people that sacrificed something for their country. They prefer guys that go AWOL when it becomes dangerous ;) Heh.....oh man, thats is great.

Only yours.

Well crap. I hvae really got behind. I finally made it into the Air Force, and will leave this comming summer for Basic Training. I still do not know my job. Maybe something to do with Weather, or maybe Intelligence. I had to list four jobs, and I will find my job out in 3-4 months. Have to complete high school first, and from the way I spell most you can tell that won't be to easy. Anyways where can I jump back in at? Not here, not today.

Thank you. though it is the Air Force not the Army. Im gonna be a fly boy not a ground pounder. WW1 y WW2. It was stated that we were bombing people right and left. I asked for who. Not dictators we supported, which I admit was stupid on our part. Still, many countries have done the same thing. Thats not why they hate us, but oh well. Well of course!! I mean they do were turbans right?! Did I say this? WHERE? Uhhggggg!!!!! Im not even going here. It is a real chance. I figure some Iraqis will build a boat out of camal turds, and sail to the U.S.. After that they will track my house down by using the I.P. address given to them from the people at this board. Then pour some snad in my gas tank, and make fun of my ugly self. Que mi amigo? Has there been an attack in Europe on that scale? On a country that did not support the U.S..? Maybe so, maybe I am wrong. Please tell me. Be prepared for the total sexiness that will take over your T.V.. Yea, because of post like yours baby.

Are you addressing me? Just from the few words you attribute to DOR, I do not agree with his view, at least on several points. I disagree. Many care but are resigned to being unable to challenge regimes. So they live with it. What percentage of the people? 20%? 40%? 60%? I can't say. Neither can they. There's a possibility that it will in Iraq. And this scares some of the neighbors to bits if Iraq succeeds. This war is limited to Iraq as of today. I do not view it as unwinnable. I hope your right Avon. Maybe I just have too negative view on the whole thing. Maybe I just see that way because there has never really been a ture muslim democracy. Again I truly do hope you right,I just see the glass as being have empty. I am not saying it is true, the U.S. is not a very Christian nation, but the Islamic world sees it as that. Ok, lets say that is the reason, which it's not. Did civilians deserve to die? Why not attack a military base? WHY? TELL ME RIGHT NOW! WHY?!!!!! Who were we bombing left and right? Kosovo? Oh wait that was Europe's shitty fault besides we helped the damn muslims there! Tell me who did we bomb? Yea, America has been stupid with it's foriegn policy, but so have other countries. We are themost powerfull country in the world, so we have a little more pressure than some of you. But who even cares? NOBODY! Everything we do is not right, but there is never a right to kill civilians on purpose. Your right, not all Muslims are bad. I am talking about the ones that truly follow the religion, thankfully some do not. Becauase they might put sand into my gas tank! Ok, but you can say thank you to the U.S. for saving Europe's ass two different times. Your welcome. Has your country had planes ran into bloody buildings because you were hated by a whole group of people? Hu? If they wanted to be left alone they should have never messed with us, but no it is too late. they have aksed for what they are getting. Do not think I am not going to do my part. I believe in this war, thats why I am joining the military, and if you don't believe me Ill get ya some pics buddy. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sir, you are very wrong. Why is Sweden not attacked? Not because they do not go around bombing people. That is completly stupid. Sweden is not a major obstacle to Mr.Bin-Laden, nor do they support Israel the way the U.S. does. Like it or not the U.S. is seen as the number one Christian nation in the world, which is a problem for Osama. What did the U.S. do to provoke the 9/11 attacks? Tell me that. Yes, what we did to Oama in Afghanistan was wrong, but becuase we were supporting a terrorist, thats why. Our goverment can be very stupid,i.e. helping Osama and Saddam. Why do you think they do well in our system voting? Becuase it has structure, and it has already been created. Of course they had rather run the country with a dictatorship, but who cares. My country has the total right to tell them what to do if they are a threat to our freedom. If you wait around to be shot, you will never be able to shoot back. Thats funny. Do you truly believe this? Do you watch Arab television? No, I don't think Iraq would or could invade the U.S.. Though, the might as well if they support terrorist that strike the U.S.. Thats almost enough anlone to invade, Israel is our only friend in the ME, and we have to support them. Besides do you not think Saddam would help terrorist figh the country he hated? Yes, what we did then was wrong. Should have got Saddam then, but it is too late to go back. The people can though, try to end a regieme like Saddam's, fight against it. Maybe it is just a concept few people really understand, but freedom is just something I can not live without. I know some of you can't believe it, but the wolrd is not a pretty place. These countries are not going to get along, Islam will not get along with any country that is not Islamic. It is only a matter of time before people start seeing that Islam is the reason for the current wars, and that terrorism will only continue until we beat it into the bloody ground.

I now remember why I hate this thread. I don't post for a day, and there are a million post to reply too. The enemy we fight is the people that want to destroy any nation that is not Islamic. You all are right, the people in the mid-east don't care about freedom, or democracy. I do though. I would like to see freedom spread over there, but it will never happen. the people do not know how to handle it, nor will their religion allow it. I am thinking about ourselves, the U.S. because we are a target of the enemy. the number one target. If by some chance we could spread democracy to the region, it would be much safer, but thats not why I think we should fight. We are fighting fro our freedom, and many people will not admit this, or they are to stupid to see it. These people want to destroy freedom. Iraq was supporting terrorism through money, and even giving a home to the terrorist. So why not start there? I hate that civilians get killed, probably more than any of you ever TRULY could. Though if the population does nothing to stop a dictator like Saddam then they are putting themselves in harms way. I know this sounds bad, and it is hard for me to explain how I see it. Uhhhggg, I need to go rest for a while, I think I ate to much.

Thats right Osama. This is such a classic excuse for supporting the Iraq war, im thinking of framing it and putting it by my bed. They have no compassion and because of this they must be excuted without mercy. Yes i see. I would like to know how you 'know', if you know what i mean. No doubt you would and i know youre probably right here, but its just, its kind of hard convincing people in general that theyre better off dead. I know its strange. (Im sorry, i couldnt resist.) LOL Can't argue with you there, but if you can not see the difference you are even more ignorant than myself. Any Iraqi civilian that took up arms against the U.S. is a terrorist in my book. They are not fighting for their homeland. They are fighting the U.S. because of their hate for the U.S.. This comes from many things, our support for Israel, and that we are their number one obstacle to fighting freedom everywhere. As for the soldeir, if it was a mistake he should not get in any trouble at all. If he did kill the guy just to kill him, then still I see no reason why he should get in trouble. Maybe it is just too hard for you to admit how the world has changed these last few years, and that this enemy is not the smae as any before. It seems America is almost alone in being willing to fight terrorism. I do have to say thanks to England, Poland, and every country tht truly did help us out. Thank you. Man, I have got that song Picture Book stuck in my head! AHHHHHH!!!!

 Yeah. Saddam made them sit in their homes while we dropped 2000lb bombs on them.  No amigo, but building military targets in civilian areas is rthe same thing.

What kind of munchies? Does it say how many were killed by the U.S.? You do realize Saddam would have put those people in places of danger to make us look bad? Oh well.

Considering that the people being shot here are mostly iraqis I think its time for a little comparison: Bad things done to americans so far by iraqis: ~1000 dead armed soldiers Couple of contractors Bad things done to iraqis so far by americans: Incredible amount of property damage 20000-100000 dead iraqis Know, the people being shot are terrorist. Insurgents! Those dead soldiers are not becuase of the Iraqis either. As far as the dead civilians, I hate it as much as you, but to me I had rather be dead than live under somebody like Saddam. I can't speak for them, so I do not know exactly how the feel. Most soldiers I vae talked to say the like us and support us, but the media is so crappy now we never see this. I don't know how many civilians have been killed by the U.S., but many have been killed by terrorist, and I am sure your numbers are a little high, though who knows.

So why are you fighting in the first place if you are not giving a shit about the welfare of the local populace? Yet another fine example of compassionate conservatism. I wish this was worth responding too. Oh wait............. If you cannot be arsed to do anything else but to troll and flame instead of even semi-rational discussion I suggest that you crawl under that rock you came from. Will you help me lift it up? Did I say I di not care about the civilians? No, I never said that. Yes, I do care more about our soldiers, but I also care about the civilians. I am talking about the terrorist, the people we are fighting. Everyone of them is a terrorist. I hate to say it, but the only way to beat them is to kill them. If your idea of "shoot the enemy" involves executing wounded unarmed people, have it your way. With this enemy, you can never trust. So with this enemy that is my idea of shooting the enemy. See, they are bringing freedom, liberty, democracy to these people..... At any cost it would appear. Executing unarmed people (Terrorist/Insurgant or not), kind of undermines the whole 'We are the good guys' principle. Practise what you preach. We are the "good guys", but to win a war, you can not act like the "good guys". Yes, I would like to bring democracy to Iraq, not just for the Iraqis, but also for us. Though I feel that freedom will never be seen in that region. Why I support this war is because we are able to fight many of the terrorist from aroud the war in one place. These people are terrorist, nothing more than animals. They have no compassion at all. They are full of hate for America, like it or not this is a FACT, not just my stupid opinion. These people would kill any American in a second, and anybody who might seem to support the War in Iraq. So when I heard about this I felt no compassion or sorrow for the terrorist. I probably should have, but these people have done way to much, way way to much to us. I don't want to bring freedom to the terrorist, just death.

So why are you fighting in the first place if you are not giving a shit about the welfare of the local populace? Yet another fine example of compassionate conservatism. I wish this was worth responding too. Oh wait............. If you cannot be arsed to do anything else but to troll and flame instead of even semi-rational discussion I suggest that you crawl under that rock you came from. Will you help me lift it up? Did I say I di not care about the civilians? No, I never said that. Yes, I do care more about our soldiers, but I also care about the civilians. I am talking about the terrorist, the people we are fighting. Everyone of them is a terrorist. I hate to say it, but the only way to beat them is to kill them. If your idea of "shoot the enemy" involves executing wounded unarmed people, have it your way. With this enemy, you can never trust. So with this enemy that is my idea of shooting the enemy.

So why are you fighting in the first place if you are not giving a shit about the welfare of the local populace? Yet another fine example of compassionate conservatism. I wish this was worth responding too. Oh wait............. If you cannot be arsed to do anything else but to troll and flame instead of even semi-rational discussion I suggest that you crawl under that rock you came from. Will you help me lift it up? Did I say I di not care about the civilians? No, I never said that. Yes, I do care more about our soldiers, but I also care about the civilians. I am talking about the terrorist, the people we are fighting. Everyone of them is a terrorist. I hate to say it, but the only way to beat them is to kill them.

So why are you fighting in the first place if you are not giving a shit about the welfare of the local populace? Yet another fine example of compassionate conservatism. I wish this was worth responding too. Oh wait.............

Rules in war? Hah! This is a different type of war and these guys we are fighting are not soldiers. They do not fall under the "laws" of war. I am proud of that marine. I hate to say it, but he did what had to be done. These guys want give up, it is a sad thing but the truth. There are no rules in this war, but kill or be killed. They would have done the same thing to us, so I really do not care what we do to them. We just need to let the soldiers fight this war, and let em do whatever needs to be done.

The Duke needs this, you really want to give it away?