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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mora2 @ June 16 2002,18:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And please...give a  Whooray!!!! for the best Goalie in the world cup....IKER CASILLAS!!!!<span id='postcolor'> Nah, the best goalie is either Khan or Seaman.

Humm... OFP, Deus Ex, X Wing Alliance, X Wing Vs Tie Fighter, Ground Control, HW Cataclysm, Hidden and Dangerous, Earth 2150, World War III - Black Gold, MINESWEEPER! And the best game ever... I War II - Edge of chaos...

I'm not going to argue any more... but I will say this... Avon if the israelis and the Palestinians don't stop hating each other your grandchildren will be still be getting killed in petty tit for tat violence. You can laugh at us "stupid anti semite" europeans but we won't be the ones getting killed walking down the street... Tanks won't stop the hate.. they'll do the opposite...

Lol why are you upset about this? Surely it's the ultimate complement, Codies must think your FAQ is pretty good to direct to it. And it's more traffic for you isn't it?

No but his hands were bound with those plastic ties, which is pretty similar to handcuffing someone.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 07 2002,14:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No, just a contributor.<span id='postcolor'> Sorry, I'm a bit confused, what am I contributing to?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No thanks. Europe has been the source for our major losses throughout history.<span id='postcolor'> Oh yeah. I forgot I was a racist anti-semite for a second there.

Of course palestinian TV is joke, I'm not saying it isn't, it's biased, anti-israeli and pro-palestinian. On the other hand israel TV would be anti-palestinian and pro-israeli. I'd treat both sources with equal amounts of skepticism. And it's why I'd rate what the BBC and CNN report - organisations with no obvious political bias above both of them.

Ahh... you've lost the argument so you're resorting to random insults...

If you can't see the overt bias and propaganda - (I go by the Oxford definition by the way ) on that website then there's something wrong with your eyes. I wouldn't trust anything from there just like I wouldn't trust anything from here, it's palestinian counterpart. http://www.electronicintifada.com/new.html

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 07 2002,09:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Chris Hedges article was so outrageous that I spent a good amount of time last night and this morning searching for someone who specifically deals with it point by point. Full rebuttal at: http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/hedges.html<span id='postcolor'> The Camera website? </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Public opinion ultimately shapes public policy. Defamatory news coverage threatens U.S.-Israel relations and Israel's security. Additionally, by fostering false impressions of Israel and Jewish heritage, media distortion fuels antisemitism, an affront to all fair-minded Americans.<span id='postcolor'> Heh... and they call the BBC propaganda... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">While these British newspapers have a limited audience outside the U.K., BBC’s World Service has a global audience of well over 150 million people, with website, TV and radio broadcasts delivering commentary and analysis to the world round the clock. It is therefore significant that throughout its coverage of the terror attacks and their aftermath, the BBC has, in effect, played the role of PR agent for the Palestinians and the Arab world, echoing their anti-Israel line and doing damage control for the Palestinians’ tarnished image. To this end, BBC has minimized the widespread Palestinian celebrations over attacks on America, accused Israel of taking advantage of America’s distraction to victimize the Palestinians, and scapegoated Israel by “explaining†Arab anger at the U.S. in terms of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. <span id='postcolor'> It's complete rubbish. The BBC reports fact, not opinion, and while there will be people within the organisation with strong political views I've never seen them use the organisation for propaganda.

Sending the UN in seems like the best tactic at the moment...

Did I say it was Gods given language? Â (It is but that's not the point ) I'd never dream of insulting someone just because their language skills are bad but if I make a mistake cause I can't understand what they're trying to say, and then they insult me for it, I think I have the right to reply.

Then you are blatently a racist Avon. And the idea that I am really is quite funny. Have I used any racist language, terms or phrases? Have I said I hate Jews? Have I said I hate israel? Nope. The old tactic of Israeli's calling anyone who disagrees with them reappears. BTW I suppose this guy's a racist too? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi....459.stm

Any normal person could read "Honestreporting.com" for ten seconds and realise that it is racist, biased and completely untrustworthy. If you subscribe to their view of the world you are deeply stupid. Now read this... from an interview with an American journalist. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BOGAEV: You describe daily encounters between Israeli soldiers and Palestinians there. And most of those killed are young Palestinian boys. What did you see of this fighting while you were there? How did this shooting go down? Mr. HEDGES: Well, every afternoon--you know, you could almost time it--around 3 or 4, the Palestinian kids, who have nowhere to play, would play--would go out on the dunes and they'd have kites or rag balls and this kind of stuff. And I remember--I heard it the first day. And I speak Arabic, so I'm listening over the loudspeaker to the worst curse words in Arabic, and phrases like, you know, 'All the Palestinians who live in Khan Yunis are dogs,' which is calling an Arab a dog is particularly insulting. And I couldn't--I just couldn't believe what I heard. And I walked out towards the dunes and they were--the--over the loudspeaker from an Israeli army Jeep on the other side of the electric fence they were taunting these kids. And these kids started to throw rocks. And most of these kids were 10, 11, 12 years old. And, first of all, the rocks were the size of a fist. They were being hurled towards a Jeep that was armor-plated. I doubt they could even hit the Jeep. And then I watched the soldiers open fire. And it was--I mean, I've seen kids shot in Sarajevo. I mean, snipers would shoot kids in Sarajevo. I've seen death squads kill families in Algeria or El Salvador. But I'd never seen soldiers bait or taunt kids like this and then shoot them for sport. It was--I just--even now, I find it almost inconceivable. And I went back every day, and every day it was the same. <span id='postcolor'> Full interview- http://64.226.129.19/pmw/manager/features/display_message.asp?mid=487

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Palestinian society has turned future doctors and lawyers into mass murderers.<span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> *Palestinian intimidation of the press. *Palestinian child abuse <span id='postcolor'> And this cartoon... http://honestreporting.com/graphics/bleeder1.gif And the attitude taken towards the two sides... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Terror Continues; Media Responds Despite the horrors, some reporters and correspondents to equate Palestinian terror and Israeli defense.<span id='postcolor'> Please don't try to tell me that that isn't racist?

HonestReporting.com? It's a (racist) israeli propaganda site and you know it Avon. If I put up a link to Aryan Nation or the National Front would you call it an objective source of news?

Just some of X-ander's ignorant and racist views... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Palestinan are terrorists...that´s a fact On the other hand Palestinians are guys which haven´t developed yet and live in shit. well...i think they are all fanatics....they still live centuries ago..... and 95% of the population consider Osama ben Laden a hero. eveywhere Morroco ppl go problems appear... <span id='postcolor'> See what I mean? And this is why I mocked his English skills... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> ermmmm....i was referring to morroco...jajajajaj... idiot Why they don´t continue to develop so well now in ther own country then? Of course Spain is one of the richest countries....although granda´s part if one of the poorest part´s of Spain.... (So you can understand....now...i´m refering to spain...before i was referring to Morroco.) <span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ April 06 2002,19:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Cloney, you are saying Palestine is Palestine, not Palestina. I hope you have enough brainpower to realise that other countries occasionally speak different languages, and occasionally countries are called differently in another language.<span id='postcolor'> He has enough brain power to realise that being an ignorant racist is stupid. Many people would find X-ander's racist views extremely offensive, much more offensive than mocking language skills. And I only said that because he insulted me when I misread one of his posts - my point being it was so badly written my mistake was pretty easy to make. And anyway your English skills are brilliant, why are you getting upset?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Even the IRC has protested already to the PA in the last two weeks after Israel was finally wise enough to document use of PRC ambulances for transporting terrorists and weapons, including suicide bomb belts, hidden under an actaully wounded child.<span id='postcolor'> I actually read about that on BBCi. (I'll give you a link if you want) and they found explosives in one ambulance, once. That is not an excuse to stop every ambulance from picking up the wounded. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Funny how it was hard to find out about that on BBC or CNN. <span id='postcolor'> Well I found it. Maybe you're not looking hard enough? </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I've had my say. I'll discontinue my participation here because none of you are interested in knowing what has and is going on here for the last 2 years, 8 years or 40 years.<span id='postcolor'> Again in your opinion what has been going on their over the last 40 years. Many other israelis completely and totally disagree with you. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Enjoy you local news broadcasts. Keep bleieving that there's no political agenda among the journalists sent here.<span id='postcolor'> Now I thought It was the Jews that were manipulating the world media and secretly plotting to take over the world... Damn... must be getting my conspiracy theories mixed up again...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ April 06 2002,18:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and for the third time: what is the source u have for this "execution"?<span id='postcolor'> The BBC. And thats the first time you've asked me about it. You edited you previous posts, it's pretty obvious. An in fact it was Longinius that brought that up, not me, but here's the link. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi....726.stm It was posted in the forum a few days ago so I'm sure most people remember the story. Anyway read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi....459.stm And this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi....514.stm

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Cloney @ April 06 2002,18:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW Jim, thats a great site! Â <span id='postcolor'> Thank you! And I totally agree with you about Muslims - I've known several Muslims at my 6th Form College and they hate Bin Laden. They hate the way he hijacks their religion. They don't like the US government at all, (They seem to like normal Americans though) and whenever I ask them why the conversation always gets back to the US's support for israel. And sanctions on Iraq that hurt the people more than Saddam to a lesser degree.

Read what YOU posted! </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">did u know that almost in every suicide event, there are other members that has the job of hitting medics and doctors when they arrive? <span id='postcolor'> You are basicly saying that in every suicide bombing there is a second group specifically targeting medical personel. Are you too stupid to even understand what you wrote? You haven't shown anything that even hints at that, yet you say it's "old news since 1995". The Guardian is not biased, but they say, and I quote </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Later today, a suicide bomber blew himself up near a paramedics' station in the Jewish settlement of Efrat in the West Bank, killing himself and wounding four people, including a trainee medic who was seriously injured. <span id='postcolor'> Nothing about a second wave deliberately targeting paramedics, one bomber, and he blew himself up in a Jewish Settlement illegally built on Arab land. The fact he was near a paramedics station was probably not important to him, just the fact that he was attacking a Jewish settlement.

Oh yeah... the ADL... such an objective source of news... http://www.adl.org/Israel/israel_ad_040302.asp I don't need a source because you were the one stating a fact... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">did u know that almost in every suicide event, there are other members that has the job of hitting medics and doctors when they arrive? again, thats old news, since 1995.<span id='postcolor'> And you haven't presented a single piece of unbiased evidence that even hints at this.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ April 06 2002,17:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If spain is one of the richest countries in the world then Dubai and Brunei must be the poorest right?<span id='postcolor'> Err Dubai is a city... And Brunei's GDP in 99 was $5.6 Billion... which is significantly less than countries such as Bulgaria (34.9 B) and Spain (677.5 B) X-ander - I know French quite well, but If I knew it as badly as you know English, I would never dream of criticising a native speaker if they misunderstood me.