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    Quote[/b] ]"Israel has many, many capabilities," says Danny Yatom, a former head of Mossad, Israel's international intelligence agency.

    "And in the past Israel has carried out long-range military operations, like when we bombed the nuclear facility of Iraq [in 1981]. And since then one can imagine that we've improved our capabilities."

    BBC For 1 example.

  3. Posted

    Old but interesting article about DU in Iraq: BBC

    Quote[/b] ]US rejects Iraq DU clean-up

    By Alex Kirby

    BBC News Online environment correspondent

    The US says it has no plans to remove the debris left over from depleted uranium (DU) weapons it is using in Iraq.

    DU shells can go straight through the side of a tank

    US and British tanks use DU shells and armour

    Factfile: DU

    It says no clean-up is needed, because research shows DU has no long-term effects.

    It says a 1990 study suggesting health risks to local people and veterans is out of date.

    A United Nations study found DU contaminating air and water seven years after it was used.

    DU, left over after natural uranium has been enriched, is 1.7 times denser than lead, and very effective for punching through armoured vehicles.

    When a weapon with a DU tip or core strikes a solid object, like the side of a tank, it goes straight through before erupting in a burning cloud of vapour. This settles as chemically poisonous and radioactive dust.

    Risk studies

    Both the US and the UK acknowledge the dust can be dangerous if inhaled, though they say the danger is short-lived, localised, and much more likely to lead to chemical poisoning than to irradiation.

    One thing we've found in these various studies is that there are no long-term effects from DU

    Lieutenant-Colonel David Lapan, Pentagon spokesman

    But a study prepared for the US Army in July 1990, a month before Iraq invaded Kuwait, says: "The health risks associated with internal and external DU exposure during combat conditions are certainly far less than other combat-related risks.

    "Following combat, however, the condition of the battlefield and the long-term health risks to natives and combat veterans may become issues in the acceptability of the continued use of DU."

    A Pentagon spokesman, Lieutenant-Colonel David Lapan, told BBC News Online: "Since then there've been a number of studies - by the UK's Royal Society and the World Health Organisation, for example - into the health risks of DU, or the lack of them.

    "It's fair to say the 1990 study has been overtaken by them. One thing we've found in these various studies is that there are no long-term effects from DU.

    "And given that, I don't believe we have any plans for a DU clean-up in Iraq."

    Part of the armoury

    The UN Environment Programme study, published in March 2003, found DU in air and groundwater in Bosnia-Herzegovina seven years after the weapons were fired.

    The UN says the existing data suggest it is "highly unlikely" DU could be linked to any of the health problems reported.

    But it recommends collecting DU fragments, covering contaminated points with asphalt or clean soil, and keeping records of contaminated sites.

    Reports from Baghdad speak of repeated attacks by US aircraft carrying DU weapons on high-rise buildings in the city centre.

    The UK says: "British forces on deployment to the Gulf have DU munitions available as part of their armoury, and will use them if necessary." It will not confirm they have used them.

    Many veterans from the Gulf and Kosovo wars believe DU has made them seriously ill.

    One UK Gulf veteran is Ray Bristow, a former marathon runner.

    In 1999 he told the BBC: "I gradually noticed that every time I went out for a run my distance got shorter and shorter, my recovery time longer and longer.

    "Now, on my good days, I get around quite adequately with a walking stick, so long as it's short distances. Any further, and I need to be pushed in a wheelchair."

    Ray Bristow was tested in Canada for DU. He is open-minded about its role in his condition.

    But he says: "I remained in Saudi Arabia throughout the war. I never once went into Iraq or Kuwait, where these munitions were used.

    "But the tests showed, in layman's terms, that I have been exposed to over 100 times an individual's safe annual exposure to depleted uranium."

  4. Posted

    For every Drudge, ill post 1 Mike. Here it goes!

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    Quote[/b] ]In the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks, due process has disappeared from the American judicial system. Everyone has a right to a lawyer and a trial, right? According to the Bush administration, not anymore.

    Here's the catch: if you're not charged with a crime, you don't get the right to a trial. The Bush administration has used this loophole to their advantage. Classifying detainees as "enemy combatants" avoids having to be consistent with all those messy international human rights standards like the Geneva Convention. Detainees at Guantanamo Bay have received a lot of attention recently, despite the Bush administration's attempt to keep things quiet. Not only have top intelligence officials confirmed that none of the prisoners are high-ranking terrorists, but they also verified that less than 24 of the over 600 detainees are even suspected to be members of al Qaeda. Dick Cheney and other Bush administration officials have justified their illegal, unethical treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo by declaring that they were the worst of the worst, but clearly this isn't true.

    Reports of torture at the Abu Ghraib prison are not isolated incidents. A rapid increase in suicide attempts at Guantanamo prompted many human rights organizations to suspect similar conditions of torture. The ACLU and Amnesty International are among the groups calling for an independent investigation to document previous human rights abuses and prevent further torture from occurring. While the US plans to release secret documents that prove torture was not condoned by high ranking Bush administration officials, they are not releasing other documents that provide legal justifications for torture. In fact, Ashcroft will not even discuss them with the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    http://www.michaelmoore.com/takeaction/index.php

    (interesting linking in the original article)

  5. Posted

    Are you saying that everyone who spray graves with swastikas etc are supporters of Kerry, and Democrats?

    Ive seen leftist people in Finland call a Right wing dude a nazi, does that mean that the finnish leftists are pro Kerry and they belong to the democrat party?

    EDIT: Added 1 y and 1 n.

    EDIT2: Why bother, better go to sleep

  9. Posted

    About the swastika thing; Whats the reason that they suspect it was done by democrats against republicans? You sure it wasnt KKK burning some crosses?

    as for the teacher thing, a snip from a other article:

    Quote[/b] ]Parents e-mailed an assistant principal accusing Pillai-Diaz of suppressing free speech because the teacher refused to talk to pupils about why the color photo hung in the room.

    "Students said, 'You like George Bush? He's killed people,' " Pillai-Diaz said. "As a rule I don't talk about my politics in the classroom."

    According to Pillai-Diaz, Assistant Principal Mark Daniels said he had no problem with the photo, which hung next to posters of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. But Daniels told the teacher she should address questions that arose because of the photo.

    "He wasn't giving me the power to direct conversation in my classroom," said Pillai-Diaz, who regarded the picture just as an image of the current president.

    Thursday, at back-to-school night, the controversy exploded after a parent asked why the picture was up, Pillai-Diaz said.

    "The way she asked was a political assault," the teacher said.

  10. Posted

    Couple of articles from a real newssite, not from a rightwing nut site, or swiftliars.com:

    Quote[/b] ]  Four U.S. Soldiers Charged in Iraqi General's Murder

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military has charged four soldiers with murder in the death of an Iraqi general who suffocated after being shoved in a sleeping bag and physically abused during interrogation in Iraq last November, the Army said on Monday.

    Chief Warrant Officers Jefferson Williams and Lewis Welshofer Jr., Sgt. 1st Class William Sommer and Spec. Jerry Loper were charged with murder and dereliction of duty, officials at Fort Carson, Colorado, said in a statement.

    Iraqi Maj. Gen. Abid Hamed Mowhoush, a key air-defense commander for toppled President Saddam Hussein's military, died last Nov. 26 of "asphyxia due to smothering and chest compression" while being detained by the U.S. military in Al Qaim near the Syrian border, according to a death certificate released by the Army in May.

    The criminal charges were the latest in a series brought against U.S. troops stemming from the abuse and in some cases deaths of numerous prisoners held in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The murder charge carries a maximum sentence of life in prison without possibility of parole, while the dereliction charge carries a maximum sentence of six months of confinement, according to the statement.

    The U.S. military initially described the general's death as apparently from natural causes, but changed the account in the weeks after revelations surfaced this spring of the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at the Abu Ghraib jail on the outskirts of Baghdad.

    'SUFFOCATING HIM'

    A summary released by Fort Carson of the charge sheets brought against the four soldiers said they killed him "by means of suffocating him with the use of a sleeping bag and electrical cord."

    The U.S. military has said U.S. soldiers placed Mowhoush head-first into a sleeping bag, then rolled him back and forth during questioning before a soldier sat on his chest. The general was in custody for about two weeks before his death.

    The initial U.S. military account of his death last November described it much more benignly.

    A military statement said, "Mowhoush said he didn't feel well and subsequently lost consciousness. The soldier questioning him found no pulse, then conducted CPR and called for medical authorities. A surgeon responded within five minutes to continue advanced cardiac life-support techniques, but they were ineffective. According to the on-site surgeon, it appeared Mowhoush died of natural causes."

    The Army said the four soldiers, all of whom are back in the United States after serving with the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment in Iraq, have not been placed in detention and still are serving with their units.

    Kim Tisor, a spokeswoman at the base, said if the military proceeds with courts-martial, the trials would be held at Fort Carson. Tisor said the next step for the soldiers is a proceeding called an Article 32 hearing in which an officer hears evidence and decides whether the case should go to trial, but the soldiers could waive this proceeding.

    Williams, Welshofer and Sommer were members of military intelligence units, while Loper was part of an aviation maintenance unit, the Army said.

    Reuters

    Quote[/b] ]

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Heavy fighting erupted between U.S. troops and Shi'ite militiamen in Baghdad's Sadr City slum on Monday night after car bombs earlier killed at least 26 people in two Iraqi cities.

    Witnesses said American AC-130 aircraft pounded suspected rebel positions in Sadr City, but there was no immediate word on casualties and the U.S. military said it had no information on the fighting.

    The attack on the slum, a stronghold of firebrand Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, was part of an offensive by U.S. and Iraqi forces to crush a raging insurgency and take back all of Iraq before elections scheduled for January.

    Residents said they could hear the sound of AC-130 rapid-fire cannons as blasts shook Sadr City, home to more than two million people.

    "I hear explosions. AC-130 planes were firing," said a Sadr City resident.

    He said he saw at least 12 tanks moving into Sadr City.

    Helicopters could be heard in Baghdad heading in the direction of Sadr City.

    The fighting came after the car bomb attacks brought more carnage to the streets of two Iraqi cities as the interim government struggles to stamp out the insurgency ahead of nationwide polls.

    More than 100 people were wounded as bombers struck twice in Baghdad and once in the northern city of Mosul.

    In the first Baghdad blast, a car blew up near an entrance to the heavily fortified Green Zone, home to the interim government, killing at least 15 people and wounding 80, a hospital official said.

    A second bomb exploded about an hour later as a U.S. military convoy passed along Sadoun Street, a major thoroughfare east of the Tigris river, where several hotels used by foreign contractors are located. No U.S. troops were killed or wounded.

    Reuters

    Meanwhile the posting the "evidence" of yours, you might of have missed what rumsfeld has said about links to al-queda :

    Quote[/b] ]WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Monday he knew of no "strong, hard evidence" linking Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda, despite describing extensive contacts between the two before the Iraq invasion.

    Rumsfeld, during a question-and-answer session before the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, was asked to explain the connection between Saddam and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, blamed for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America.

    "I have seen the answer to that question migrate in the intelligence community over a period of a year in the most amazing way. Second, there are differences in the intelligence community as to what the relationship was," Rumsfeld said.

    "To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two," Rumsfeld added.

    "I just read an intelligence report recently about one person who's connected to al Qaeda who was in and out of Iraq. And it is the most tortured description of why he might have had a relationship and why he might not have had a relationship. It may have been something that was not representative of a hard linkage."

    U.S.-led forces invaded Iraq in March 2003 and toppled Saddam and his government in a war whose main justification offered by the United States was the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. No such weapons have been discovered.

    But the relationship between Saddam's government and al Qaeda also figured in the U.S. case for war.

    A small Pentagon intelligence-analysis office found what it considered evidence of Iraq-al Qaeda ties. Rumsfeld was one of the Bush administration officials publicly describing this link. On Sept. 26, 2002, Rumsfeld told reporters at the Pentagon of evidence of contacts and cooperation.

    'CREDIBLE INFORMATION'

    "We have what we consider to be very reliable reporting of senior level contacts going back a decade, and of possible chemical and biological agent training. And when I say contacts, I mean between Iraq and al Qaeda," Rumsfeld said at the time.

    "We have what we believe to be credible information that Iraq and al Qaeda have discussed safe-haven opportunities in Iraq, reciprocal nonaggression discussions. We have what we consider to be credible evidence that al Qaeda leaders have sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire ... weapons of mass destruction capabilities," Rumsfeld added at the time.

    The bipartisan 9/11 commission that studied the 2001 attacks concluded this July there was no evidence of a "collaborative operational relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda or an Iraqi role in attacking the United States.

    During a question-and-answer session at the Council on Foreign Relations on Monday, Rumsfeld also was asked what was the "number-one reason for the war."

    Rumsfeld said President Bush made the judgment that Saddam "ran a vicious regime that had used weapons of mass destruction on its own people, as well as its neighbors, and that it was important to set that right by removing that regime before they, in fact, did gather weapons of mass destruction, either themselves or transferring them to terrorist networks."

    Before the war, U.S. officials spoke of Iraq already possessing weapons of mass destruction, not a potential for gathering them.

    "It turns out that we have not found weapons of mass destruction," Rumsfeld said.

    "And why the intelligence proved wrong, I'm not in a position to say. I simply don't know. But the world is a lot better off with Saddam Hussein in jail than they were with him in power," Rumsfeld added.

    Thats whats going on. The goverment that wasnt elected by the majority of americans is fucking americas economy and its once noble ideologys in the ass.

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    Quote[/b] ]You know I probably could find a news article that said the terrorist have killed more Iraqis, maybe not, but I think I could.

    Please do provide us with a article like that from a credible source. biggrin_o.gif

    Quote[/b] ]Also if you think those guys over there fighting our troops are people figthing for their freedom, then you should really do some thinking about your current mental state.

    They are fighting for to end the USA occupation, and to decide for themselfs (laws etc)

    Why do you think they fight then? Are you so naiive that you think that they fight becouse for the fun of it, or becouse they are "evil terrorists" ?

  17. Posted

    Should I start posting pictures of children dead from US bombings? Afterall You should know what is happening there. And what is happening is that US bombs kill more civilians than the resistance.

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