levisiegfried 10 Posted July 21, 2009 I know this question has been asked time and time again; but I am beating my head against a wall trying to decide if i should purchase a certain system. This system is the best deal i have found and was wanting to know if it would serve my purpose without Overclocking and spending alot more money. Intel Core i7 920 2.66ghz 12GB Corsair DDR3 1TB Hard Drive DVDRW (2) 9800GT SLI 650W Power Supply Vista Home Premium 64 Thanks again for the patients with the same question over and over. But you will save me alot of grief and money if someone can help me out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
private plowjoy 0 Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) I know this question has been asked time and time again; but I am beating my head against a wall trying to decide if i should purchase a certain system. This system is the best deal i have found and was wanting to know if it would serve my purpose without Overclocking and spending alot more money.Intel Core i7 920 2.66ghz 12GB Corsair DDR3 1TB Hard Drive DVDRW (2) 9800GT SLI 650W Power Supply Vista Home Premium 64 Thanks again for the patients with the same question over and over. But you will save me alot of grief and money if someone can help me out. Sadly not, is the answer. Take a look at my sig. With that setup I can run on almost all in-game settings at Very High (inc AA) at 1920x1200, at a good frame-rate. I'd imagine you'd get a mixture of Normal and High, with the 9800GT SLI, at best. But even if you did get a rig that can do Very High settings in-game, the game client itself will cripple itself (and performance) with the memory leak anyway, after a while. Edited July 21, 2009 by Private Plowjoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
levisiegfried 10 Posted July 21, 2009 The system is only $1500 thats why im asking... every other comparable system is priced extremely higher and i was just wandering would it still run good at almost max settings then? Im not wanting to kill my pocketbook for a $4000 pc upgrade lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
private plowjoy 0 Posted July 21, 2009 The system is only $1500 thats why im asking... every other comparable system is priced extremely higher and i was just wandering would it still run good at almost max settings then? Im not wanting to kill my pocketbook for a $4000 pc upgrade lol. Completely understand mate. I'd remove 6GB from your list, take the 9800GT SLI out as well and buy a single Nvidia 275 card. Can't say that the costs will tally up, so you'd need to look into it but that would give you more graphical oomph without comprising your system RAM to the degree that it would be detrimental. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) The system is only $1500 thats why im asking... every other comparable system is priced extremely higher and i was just wandering would it still run good at almost max settings then? Im not wanting to kill my pocketbook for a $4000 pc upgrade lol. It runs fine on a stock 920 but I would change the video card to an Nvidia 200 series (or an ATI 48xx if you prefer). There are problems with HT under Vista/Win 7 and no word when they are getting fixed so best to stick to XP for A2 or dual boot. If you are only gaming, 12 gigs is a complete waste of money. No memory leaks on my rigs. Eth Edited July 21, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
private plowjoy 0 Posted July 21, 2009 It runs fine on a stock 920 but I would change the video card to an Nvidia 200 series (or an ATI 48xx if you prefer).There are problems with HT under Vista/Win 7 and no word when they are getting fixed so best to stick to XP for A2 or dual boot. If you are only gaming, 12 gigs is a complete waste of money. No memory leaks on my rigs. Eth Eth, just curious but how do you know that you're not getting a memory leak? In my old rig with just 2GB of system RAM, the client would die when it popped 1GB physical system RAM usage but my total system memory use would only display 75% as in-use. Just curious that maybe you and I aren't 'seeing' it now because with 12GB we're far and away from being anywhere near the system RAM limit? That's not really a basis on saying that the client isn't leaking, it's just that we're not prone to the effects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Eth, just curious but how do you know that you're not getting a memory leak?In my old rig with just 2GB of system RAM, the client would die when it popped 1GB physical system RAM usage but my total system memory use would only display 75% as in-use. Just curious that maybe you and I aren't 'seeing' it now because with 12GB we're far and away from being anywhere near the system RAM limit? That's not really a basis on saying that the client isn't leaking, it's just that we're not prone to the effects. Because the memory usage is always roughly the same and it isn't "spilling", even after extremely long sessions. I've played for hours and hours now and I've never seen anything that is characteristic of a memory leak. It has nothing to do with the 12 gigs of RAM either. Games don't normally use more than 2. 12 gigs is a waste of money for gamers (purely for the willy wavers who only end up looking stupid because anyone who knows PCs, knows 12 gigs is not helping your gaming). Eth Edited July 21, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
private plowjoy 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Because the memory usage is always roughly the same and it isn't "spilling", even after extremely long sessions.I've played for hours and hours now and I've never seen anything that is characteristic of a memory leak. It has nothing to do with the 12 gigs of RAM either. Games don't normally use more than 2. 12 gigs is a waste of money for gamers (purely for the willy wavers who only end up looking stupid because anyone who knows PCs, knows 12 gigs is not helping your gaming). Eth What is the amount that yours evens out at? Like I said, with 2GB of system RAM my Arma2 sessions would die in Multiplayer after about 30 mins to an hour and it was always at the point where the Arma2.exe clipped beyond 1GB of physical RAM usage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) What is the amount that yours evens out at?Like I said, with 2GB of system RAM my Arma2 sessions would die in Multiplayer after about 30 mins to an hour and it was always at the point where the Arma2.exe clipped beyond 1GB of physical RAM usage. When I say most games dont use more than 2 gigs, I mean the game itself doesn't use up to 2 gigs, not including the OS etc. 4 -6 G is all u need for gaming. The amount depends on what I am doing. The custom map I am playing now hits around 600MB at the most and stays there. Again, this is after hours of play. Edited July 21, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
private plowjoy 0 Posted July 21, 2009 When I say most games dont use more than 2 gigs, I mean the game itself uses up to 2 gigs, not including the OS etc. 4 -6 G is all u need for gaming.The amount depends on what I am doing. The custom map I am playing now hits around 600MB at the most and stays there. Again, this is after hours of play. Aha, I see. Well, that does explain why more memory = less chance of crashing then because in all the time i've had 6GB and 12GB of RAM, i've not had the same client popping problem as I did with 2GB. Bit crap that 2GB is no longer classed as 'gaming' spec, mind. Can't think of any other game out there that has a requirement of more than 2GB system RAM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Aha, I see. Well, that does explain why more memory = less chance of crashing then because in all the time i've had 6GB and 12GB of RAM, i've not had the same client popping problem as I did with 2GB.Bit crap that 2GB is no longer classed as 'gaming' spec, mind. Can't think of any other game out there that has a requirement of more than 2GB system RAM. TBH, not really as games have to be able to run on a 32 bit OS (for the moment anyway) and if the game is taking up 2+ G along with the OS etc and system reserved memory, you could potentially run into trouble. Eth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
levisiegfried 10 Posted July 22, 2009 does this seem like a better setup? Processor Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight 120mm Processor: Intel Core i7-950 Overclocked to at least 3.7GHz (vs 2.93GHz) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R Memory: 6GB Mushkin DDR3-1600 6-7-6 (3 of 6 slots full) Video Card 1: nVidia GeForce GTX 295-- 896MB No OC 576MHz stock speed (EVGA or BFG) Im a novice computer builder myself... so im still confused on the amount of RAM... since i see most of you have 12GB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted July 22, 2009 (edited) does this seem like a better setup?Processor Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight 120mm Processor: Intel Core i7-950 Overclocked to at least 3.7GHz (vs 2.93GHz) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R Memory: 6GB Mushkin DDR3-1600 6-7-6 (3 of 6 slots full) Video Card 1: nVidia GeForce GTX 295-- 896MB No OC 576MHz stock speed (EVGA or BFG) Im a novice computer builder myself... so im still confused on the amount of RAM... since i see most of you have 12GB I just don't get why all you people need to immediately OC (which can introduce a ton of problems when you are not particularly technically inclined). That machine will run anything you throw at it without unnecessarily stressing the components. With regards to RAM, a lot of gamers buy 12 thinking they are clever but, are in fact, making themselves look stupid. 12 is only necessary if you are using apps that will take advantage of it like CS4, Maya for example. Even 6 is more than you need for gaming, but to get the full benefits of DD3 (3 channels), 6 is the sweet spot as 3 is bordering on too little these days. Eth Edited July 22, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burrows 0 Posted July 22, 2009 I know this question has been asked time and time again; but I am beating my head against a wall trying to decide if i should purchase a certain system. This system is the best deal i have found and was wanting to know if it would serve my purpose without Overclocking and spending alot more money.Intel Core i7 920 2.66ghz 12GB Corsair DDR3 1TB Hard Drive DVDRW (2) 9800GT SLI 650W Power Supply Vista Home Premium 64 Thanks again for the patients with the same question over and over. But you will save me alot of grief and money if someone can help me out. swap the 9800GT's with a GTX 280 or 285 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
