Aculaud 0 Posted March 9, 2002 The AT4 is an american anti-tank launcher. I even compared the in game model with a picture on the net; perfect match. Whats up with this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deus Ex 0 Posted March 9, 2002 not sure, Probly BIS was trying to even things out maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkraver 1 Posted March 9, 2002 Dont think the AT4 was made in 1985, and secondly if it was to replace something it should be the LAW. Both the LAW and the AT4 is a one shot weapon, while the Carl Gustav is a Recoilles Canon with Different kind of ammo, like smoke, AT and HE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted March 9, 2002 but it still remains that the AT4 launcher is not a Russian weapon. This had just been getting to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speeeedy 0 Posted March 9, 2002 In fact the AT-4 is also a russian weapon...its just a different AT-4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkraver 1 Posted March 9, 2002 Here's the differens. The is the swedish made AT4 And this is the russian made AT4 Spigot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 9, 2002 Speeeedy is correct. There is two AT-4's. The Russian AT-4 Spigot and the Swedish AT-4 that the US army and many others use. OFP uses the Russian version. Though both the AT-4 and the carl gustav are poorly simulated in OFP. The real Russian AT-4 is tripod mounted and weighs nearly 30KG's and the carl gustav is a recoiless rifle  oops posted basically the same thing as dkraver did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
engen 0 Posted March 9, 2002 The present day AT4 (in the pic dkraver posted) replaced the LAW, it's a one-shot weapon. It wasnt around in -85. The LAW was however. It's a Swedish design, made under license by the US. The Carl Gustav however(which is the name of the manufacturer btw, it's like calling the M16A2 the "Colt" ) is a reloadable weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkraver 1 Posted March 9, 2002 Here's ths Carl Gustav with Ammo Ammo From left is: Training shell with 7.62mm barrel HEAT HEDP Illumination HE Missing is the smoke round and the 84mm training round Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 9, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (shar @ Mar. 09 2002,22:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Carl Gustav however(which is the name of the manufacturer btw, it's like calling the M16A2 the "Colt" ) is a reloadable weapon.<span id='postcolor'> "Carl Gustav" is the name of the Swedish king, and hence the weapon. Bofors is the name of the manufacturer : http://www.bofors.se/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted March 10, 2002 this is all good data, but i still just have one question. The AT4 in the game looks exactly like the one dkraver posted under the swedish model for the US. the one in OFP looks nothing like the russian model also posted. So i just think NATO should get the AT4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted March 10, 2002 there is a nato AT-4 mod i have no clue where i got it so you should try the search button Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted March 10, 2002 Personally I think it would have made more sense for NATO to have the M47 Dragon instead of the Carl Gustav. If I'm not mistaken, it was the most widely spread U.S. heavy anti-tank weapon back in 1985. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted March 10, 2002 My mistake. The carl gustav is an american weapon. Its technical name is the M3 MAAWS (multi-role anti-armor anti-personel weapon system). The time in use, however, is incorrect. the weapon was origionally fielded to US special operations command in 1990, and from then it went to the navy SEALs and so on. so, while the m47 dragon would have been historicly correct, the carl gustav is a NATO weapon contrary to what i thought. Sorry all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speeeedy 0 Posted March 10, 2002 Last time i checked the carl gustav was an Canadian weapon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkraver 1 Posted March 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Speeeedy @ Mar. 10 2002,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Last time i checked the carl gustav was an Canadian weapon<span id='postcolor'> Its a swedish built weapon but different countries have a Licence to built the weapon, just like the m16. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Speeeedy @ Mar. 10 2002,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Last time i checked the carl gustav was an Canadian weapon<span id='postcolor'> It is Swedish. It is actually not spelled "Carl Gustav" but "Carl Gustaf". It is made by the Swedish company "Bofors" (now actually Saab-Bofors Dynamics). You can check out their Carl Gustaf product page on: Carl-Gustaf Multi-Role Weapon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JV44 0 Posted March 10, 2002 The Carl Gustaf, or as we in the Australian Army liked to call it the, "Charlie Guts Ache", is in service with many Nato countries. The Poms used it to sink an Argie sub during the Falklands. It is a beast to lug around. I know, I carried one for 3 weeks on and off during my Anti Tank training back in 80, thats 1980 for you kiddies! It is pretty much useless against tanks like the M1A1 or T-80 but is great as a bunker-buster and against light skin vehicles such as the BRDM and BMP's It would be nice to have Ilumination rounds in OFP. on the real thing you dial in the range you want the flare to pop off by turning the nose cap of the round to the desired setting and whack one up the spout. There is a spirit level type gauge that enables you to elevate the muzzle to the desired trajectory then you just pull the trigger and, whooshka, its away! Whilst the thing is recoiless, the flash and amount of shit the beast throws into the air when you fire it marks your position to every baddy within 200m, making you an excellent target! Brings back memories! JV44 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chukkie0001 0 Posted March 10, 2002 In the game the Carl Gustaf is guided. If you move the crosshair after fire ring a shot, the missile moves towards the center of the crosshair. I thought the Carl Gustaf was not guided. The weapon in the game is more likely a Dragon wire-guided AT missile. Chukkie0001 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted March 10, 2002 its probably some bizaare way to help newbies so they don't scream "OMG THIS GAME SUX THE ROCKETS AREN'T GUIDED" or something. theres an auto-guide at option in difficulty you can turn off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
engen 0 Posted March 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 10 2002,00:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (shar @ Mar. 09 2002,22:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Carl Gustav however(which is the name of the manufacturer btw, it's like calling the M16A2 the "Colt" ) is a reloadable weapon.<span id='postcolor'> "Carl Gustav" is the name of the Swedish king, and hence the weapon. Bofors is the name of the manufacturer : http://www.bofors.se/<span id='postcolor'> Gah! Vilken miss.... Jo vet Bofors gör vapnet, var nog inte vaken när jag skrev det andra. Would be nice with the big backwash effect in Ofp tho... Yet another pic of the CG, called the m48/m86; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (shar @ Mar. 10 2002,15:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Gah! Vilken miss.... Jo vet Bofors gör vapnet, var nog inte vaken när jag skrev det andra. <span id='postcolor'> Hehe, sĺnt händer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted March 10, 2002 yeah yeah yeah, the point is, its an allied weapon after all. thats what i was trying to get to the bottom of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendar 0 Posted March 11, 2002 Umm...Huh? You're confusing the lightweight Carl Gustav with the earlier one that OFP models. The OFP CG was first fielded in 1965. The lightweight model was fielded in 1990-91. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted March 11, 2002 so tell me. was the earlier Carl Gustav a NATO weapon as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
