Bullet Fire and Flight Model in 1.02

[Raz0rx 0]

Hey.

Since patching my game to 1.02 today, i'm having trouble with firing (I've only tried firing prone and crouched as of yet).

Aiming directly on a guy, i'll fire (single shots), and not a single bullet hits where it's supposed to. Some even hit the ground, directly in front of me while i'm prone.

I have only tried this with a Silenced M4 Aimpoint, so far.

Also, the new flight model for the choppers is terrible.

There should be a way to turn your chopper left or right, as you see fit, for quick 180 turns, more precise aiming, etc. (imo, anyway)

I'll go test some more weapons soon.

[install Order - for reference]

Czech ArmA

1.01

1.02

English Patch 0.9

Realism Sound Pack 1.0

[JackHorner 0]

If you buy the game those problems should go away

EDIT: Sorry I shouldn't make that assumption but thats what it sounds like. I also read something similar on another forum.

[DeathRow 0]

1.Are you sure you not trying to shoot over a hill or uneven terrain and hitting the ground, because that happens to me all the time.

2. And the flight model still barley uses the rotor at high speeds looks like they will need a few more patches to fix the problem

[Raz0rx 0]

Yeah, flat ground.

I reinstalled, and it seems to be fine now.

Having alot of trouble flying with this new flight model, though.

[libertyordeath776 0]

I have the same problem as above. I bought the downloaded german version.Its patched from 1.01 to 1.02 then with 0.9v language patch.It aims great in sinlgle player missions and campaign, its just in the mp games.Like i said above its a legit copy, i paid $56.00 for.I sent metaboli email about this issue, and have seen quite a few people complaining about the same problem.One thing is i had to install the game about 3 times to get to work.The first time it asked after install for unique serial number, the other times it didnt, maybe thats the culprit.

[Guest Ti0n3r]

If you buy the game those problems should go away

Bullshit. I have the exact same problem, and I own a legal version of ArmA (CZ).

[Fox Mulder 0]

Quote[/b] ]Aiming directly on a guy, i'll fire (single shots), and not a single bullet hits where it's supposed to. Some even hit the ground, directly in front of me while i'm prone.

Sounds like something i heard from ofp.

They used this sneaking "fade" mechanism for games which think that they are cracked or have a stolen cd-key.

I don't want to imply that somebody here uses an illegal arma version, but maybe the copyprotection wrongly activates this mechanism on legal versions.

[desertfox 2]

I think the main problem here is that you have applied an INOFFICIAL language pack. And you have installed an INOFFICIAL modification of the game. Both of which BIS has neither influence nor control over.

I recommend you de-install the game comletely - remove all modifications, and re-install the game again - patch it to 1.02 - and see if the error is persistant.

I don't know if this 'Fade' protection is a myth, but if it is not, it would be just logic to conclude that modifying game files might trigger it. No ?

[libertyordeath776 0]

Crap guess ill try it. Its just i cant read german..the only reason i bought it was because of the way you could change.If i knew it would look like its cracked er whatever after the to english mod, i wouldnt of wasted the money and waited.

[libertyordeath776 0]

Well i uninstalled and reinstalled with just 1.02 no language mod. Still the same thing.Im still waiting for responce from support at matobli.

[robocheese 0]

Ok heres my story...

Two days ago I installed the patch, I played the game a little in single player mode and noticed that I couldnt seem to hit anything like before, but it was shortly before bedtime so I left it, I loaded the game the next day and it was still the same, so I looked on the forums here and saw this post, so im quite happy its not only happening to me, but sad its happening at all.

After reading Raz0rx saying that a reinstall fixed this I uninstalled the game, deleted the directory and installed once more, firstly checking to see if it was happening before patching, it was fine so I applied the patch and tested again, unfortunatly I wasnt as lucky as Raz0rx and my aim was all messed up, I then thought it might be the language patch I was using (I live in Germany but dont speak much German) so I uninstalled again and tried the game without the language patch, again the aim was off, so I took the game back to the store where they tested it on a machine they had in there, the aim was FINE on their system, so they wouldnt exchange it or give me a refund.

So here I am with a game I cant play that cost me 45 euros, and I guess im pretty upset, I dont know if its a bug, or if its the FADE protection going wrong but its very annoying, I cant play online with the 1.0 or 1.1 patch as everyone else is using the 1.2 patch which isnt compatible.

I saw that I should contact Morphicon but there are problems there.

1.It costs 70 cents a minute to get tech support, and I know they'll tell me to reboot, uninstall, reinstall and try all the things I've tried before, and I suspect its going to cost me around 20 euros of phone call to get me nowhere, and im not really prepared to pay this.

2.I dont speak enough German to be able to sort this sort of thing out.

3.If it is FADE going wrong, isnt this implemented by BIS and not Morphicon?

So going to them is not an option for me, obviously im quite angry about this, having to give up online play and miss out on bug fixes because of whatever is causing this isnt fair, the shop wont refund me because it wont happen when they test it and im at a loss as what to do.

A friend suggested that I could have a trojan or keylogger installed on my system and someone has stolen my cdkey, I checked my system with two programs and its free.

So far I've seen nobody from BIS address this bug and its kind of annoying.

[desertfox 2]

Okay I see that the situation is not statisfying for any of you right now.

But let's not forget that only four people have reported this issue so far. That means it is a VERY rare phenomena, and reproducing it to find the cause might simply take some time. Check out the changelog of the last patches. basically all problems people reported have been addressed, or are currently worked on.

In the meanwhile, I suggest you report this bug on the Wiki ( if not already done so. )

@ robocheese

1. Email tech support is free.

2. You should be able to get tech support in english language by email. In case you don't, and need help translating the German email I'll be glad to help out.

3. I don't know anything about the protection mechanisms used by Bohemian. The DVD's are protected by Securom and Starforce as far as I know.

[libertyordeath776 0]

Well i just got email back from support.They tell me they just deal with purchase, download , and activation. They say to get help here . Im starting to lean toward ive been hacked and cd key stolen and used by someone else er something. I was playin last night and someone was controling my guy in game.Also i was in a game and my name changed on screen.

[whisper 0]

Well, there's definitely an issue if both supports, BI and Metaboli, tell you that it's the other one that should take care of your issue.

One of them should try to see clearly if it's an "activation" issue (maybe FADE related) or more usual tech support.

[Vänskä 0]

Did you guys read this thread?

Quote[/b] ]We do not support people using illegal copies of our games.

If you are experiencing this issue and purchased a legal version of the game then you should first make sure you have the game installed using the legally purchased CD Key, if the problem persists then you should follow the official support process as per the pinned thread with contact information.

[robocheese 0]

I didnt see that, but im using a store bought copy of the game, and I already contacted Morphicon about this, and am currently waiting for a reply, which is all I can do as the store wont refund me.

[libertyordeath776 0]

Yep i looked at it. No help there. Guess ill just have to hope the next patch will fix it.

[robocheese 0]

Well I got an email back, it took forever but it actually came, unfortunatly it was useless, just asked me where I bought the game and if it was legal, I sent an email back with the detail straight away and im hoping this time I'll get a little more help rather than being accused of not owning the game.

Honestly, if I could return the game to the store I would have done it by now, but because the shop cant replicate the problem im stuck with a bug ridden game I cant play.

Oh also, Desertfox, I forgot to thank you for your kind offer, but it seems its not needed now, the English they spoke was not great but easy enough to understand.

[jack_oneill 0]

Yep, add me to the list of people having problems with this. If you reinstall it and play on 1.01, the accuracy of weapons is a hell of a lot higher and it may be my imagination but my framerate seems to be better too.

So no one knows why this happens yet? Apparently it has to do with the copy protection then? Since they are asking you if it's legal.

What a silly way to try to encourage people to purchase it if they are currently using an illegal copy. "Yes, let's make them think the game is really buggy and crappy, that will teach them". I don't see the logic. Why not just not allow the game to run at all?

[robocheese 0]

I have to agree that IF it were the protection it would be VERY silly to do this but to be fair, I havent actually read anyone confirm its the protection going wrong as yet so I think its safe to say its a bug, but what I want to know is why does my copy do it on one computer but not the other? and when is it going to be fixed?

Still no update on the email im waiting for, the support for morphicon is awful, I can only guess they dont respond to email fast on purpose so people are forced to use the phone support so they can make more money. I wish I had waited for the English version to come out now, at least more bugs would be gone from the game.

[jack_oneill 0]

Well, I'm gonna go get an illegal version to see if it is in fact the copy protection. It will be funny if the illegal version is not affected by this, but the legal version is.

[Raz0rx 0]

Might be a good idea not to mention obtaining illegal copies of games, as this thread will most likely be locked as the last one was.

[franze 196]

jack_oneill +1 WL and PR 48hrs for now, because I'm feeling lenient... The rules are VERY clear about illegal copies.

[libertyordeath776 0]

Well people, im one who has the aiming problem in mp games. I downloaded the demo and i have no problems, i hit what i aim at easily, even moving targets. In my downloaded german version i cant hit someone 10 ft away.Its a legal copy.It must be something with the securty seeing my game as bogus i guess.They need to fix this pronto.

[Goldenwings2002 0]

Wow, I got so tied up in flying the choppers that I never fired a shot until now. I am experiencing this same problem and tried reinstalling the game patched to 1.2 without the english language pack. I still got the same thing. I own a legal copy of this game (German Version) that was shipped from Germany to the United States.

Looks like I will just keep sticking to flying for now until a fix is made. Ooo, first foliage issues now this... I don't know how much more I can take. BIS is wrongfully accusing legit owners of this game that it's an illegal version causing this problem...