David Armstrong sounds like a black soldier...

[Retro Concrete 0]

Like many other people who have played this game, you might've noticed that David Armstrong a) Has a distinctive voice of his own, and b) David Armstrong is NOT a black soldier. Yet whenever I use the radio to order my squad around, Armstrong's radio voice does NOT sound like him, but like that of a black soldier. Everyone else voice sounds fine. For example, Gastovski has an approriate voice, Sam Nichols sounds like an outrageous hick in is own way, etc. Example:

"Hey, Sam, this should be pretty routine, right?"

"Nothing's ever routine around here, meeyan!"

[Havelock 0]

Can't say I noticed myself ... all these Americans sound the same to me!

Joke, by the way.

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Currently reading - Traces - Stephen Baxter

Currently listening - Some AIDS concert/show on German TV

[WisdoM 1]

wow, it appears we have a racist bastard.

[Havelock 0]

I do hope you don't mean me. If you mean that chap above me .... not sure. If he is complaing that there is a mismatch of radio voices to characters then he may have a point. If he is complaining about having black characters (or voices) per se ... then you are right. But I don't THINK that is what he was saying.

[Drewus 0]

huh? racist?

How exactly is Retro being racist? he is merely pointing out a fact that the voice doesn't sound like a typical white American but instead sounds like it has a black American tone to it. And yes, it is a fact that the accents are different.

The way people throw around racial accusations nowadays is completely pathetic. Dont you have more important things to worry about, that actually have an impact?

[Guest]

Nowadays if you even mention race, you are a racist. If you even mention someone's sex, you are a sexist. It seems some people want us to become robots and refer to each other as units... but then again, someone would still have a problem with that...

[Subversion 0]

Armstrong starts out with a "white" voice when he's not an officer. As soon as you get promoted, however, you take on the voice of your previous commander, who was, in fact, black.

[PV 0]

Are you talking about his first commander? I don't think he is black. I think he is hispanic. Look's kinda Puerto Rican to me. Maybe he's from NY

[fixOPFsoundsplease 0]

Euro, Afro and Asian types all can have distinctive vocal chords - or something like that.

For example, I can say that there are 3 African American voices, and most the rest sound like European American types.

[fixOPFsoundsplease 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from WisdoM on 12:09 am on Dec. 3, 2001

wow, it appears we have a racist bastard.

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yeah nevermind defining your term just go along with the propaganda. bah!

If you oppose the preservation of race; you oppose Nationalism - that makes you a commie peice of filth.

(Edited by fixOPFsoundsplease at 6:40 am on Dec. 3, 2001)

[EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 0]

DIE COMMIE

[theavonlady 2]

LOL! Anyone remember the movie Watermelon Man?

(Edited by theavonlady at 8:43 am on Dec. 3, 2001)

[EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 0]

Maybe Armstrong was "born a poor black boy"

LoL

(It's from The Jerk with Steve Martin)

[Kooly 0]

I hate when somebody says something about a black person, he is automatically labled a racist, but when someone says anything about white people nobody cares. What a joke this world is becoming...

[Hindhunter 1]

FixOPFsoundsplease: You seem very keen at labeling people for their opinions or were you just ironic?

I´m a Swede with my roots in Sweden and some in Norway and I´m proud for it, and yes, I sometimes have a oldish way of looking at foreign people but I´m in no way a racist. My poinion is that we must learn to tolerate all people nomatter their origin, or we´ll never have peace, and for those who live in the U.S, you are the last people to blame blacks, degos and so forth because your country was built by all kind of people with different origins, races if you like, and the only true native people are the indians which you have effectively decimated throughout your bloody history so think twice before opening your mouths. Thank you.

Thinking about it, what "race" has made it the most responsible for how the world looks today if not the "white race"? Pollution, industrialism, over-exploitation etc etc. There´s no race more greedy and selfish then man and among mankind the white man is the most unresponsible. I´m sometimes ashamed over this fact.

Ehr,now, how about that David Armstrong thingy, is it really true the voices was swapped after the Lt died?

*anticlimax*

[Equivicus 0]

Hindhunter, uuhmm who said fixOPFsoundsplease was an "American"? fixOPFsoundsplease very well may be a Swede too.

What other country on this planet has a populous of such, dare I say, "racial" diversity as the U.S.A.? Hello? Are you actually hearing what you are saying? Your preaching to Americans about racial intolerance is really distasteful. Coming from a country with only 6% of the population being non-Swedish I really don't think you are in any position to cite your nationality as some sort of reference to racial acceptance and diversity.

I believe I understand what you were trying to say about racial acceptance/tolerance etc but your technique could use some improvement. I won't touch your meandering on the topic of the "White Race". I will  say that I am a "White Man" living in the fourth largest city in the USA and I am a minority. Does that make me an authority on the subject.. no.. but I know I definitely have an understanding of the topic of racial diversity and acceptance.

Oh although it has no relevance the state I live in has twice the populous of your country.... surprised me too. Are you Swedes against procreation?!? Just kidding.

My favorite voice actor is of Sam Nichols.... "Tuhoo Gait In Chopper" hehehe I have full rights to make fun of him because I'm a native Georgian (not the country). He sounds just like some of my relatives.. or me for that matter when I'm around my relatives. Funny how my accent fades away when I'm not around them.

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Equivicus on 4:40 am on Dec. 5, 2001

Hindhunter, uuhmm who said fixOPFsoundsplease was an "American"? fixOPFsoundsplease very well may be a Swede too.

What other country on this planet has a populous of such, dare I say, "racial" diversity as the U.S.A.? Hello? Are you actually hearing what you are saying? Your preaching to Americans about racial intolerance is really distasteful. Coming from a country with only 6% of the population being non-Swedish I really don't think you are in any position to cite your nationality as some sort of reference to racial acceptance and diversity.

I believe I understand what you were trying to say about racial acceptance/tolerance etc but your technique could use some improvement. I won't touch your meandering on the topic of the "White Race". I will  say that I am a "White Man" living in the fourth largest city in the USA and I am a minority. Does that make me an authority on the subject.. no.. but I know I definitely have an understanding of the topic of racial diversity and acceptance.

Oh although it has no relevance the state I live in has twice the populous of your country.... surprised me too. Are you Swedes against procreation?!? Just kidding.

My favorite voice actor is of Sam Nichols.... "Tuhoo Gait In Chopper" hehehe I have full rights to make fun of him because I'm a native Georgian (not the country). He sounds just like some of my relatives.. or me for that matter when I'm around my relatives. Funny how my accent fades away when I'm not around them.<span id='postcolor'>

I'm a bit bored right now so I just can't let it be!

If you come from a country with only a 6% ethnic minority I would say that you are entitled to have an opinion. Most people in Norway (where I'm from) wich is not very different from Sweden, are unfortunately not very tolerant. You will hear arguments like "Allthough I'm not a racist by any means, I still........ ". I don't know how it is in USA, but racism is a growing problem over here. I don't believe however, that racism in USA is one sided. Because of the ethnic complexity in USA there is probably intolerance in all groups. Am I right?

[StormCrow 0]

"Thinking about it, what "race" has made it the most responsible for how the world looks today if not the "white race"? Pollution, industrialism, over-exploitation etc etc. There´s no race more greedy and selfish then man and among mankind the white man is the most unresponsible. I´m sometimes ashamed over this fact.

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OK.. then move to Africa and join a tribe in the Congo. You can drink feces-infested ditch water, hunt rats with a spear for food and have a life expectancy of about 30 due to no health care. If you're lucky you won't be sold as a slave by one of your "black" brothers. Maybe you will work off some of that "guilt" of being white and start to appreciate the good things the white man has brought into this world. eg. medicine, modern sanitation, good hygeine. Sheeeesh...you left-wing liberals are truely braindead...

[Hindhunter 1]

StormCrow, you are making a complete fool of yourself without knowing it and for that I feel sorry for you. "Left wing liberals"? Bah! The most stupid thing I´ve ever heard!

Just because I´m a consious man  with an opinion regarding the selfish nature of mankind doesn´t necessarely label me with a political pre-defined title like "left-wing". I´m so tired of morons like you, thinking they are entitled to assign "Greenpeace"-tags to whoever suitable without second thoughts. What would you think of me if I called you a Nazi or right-wing follower? The fact that we live in a modern comfortable world with health-care an s**t doesn´t relieve us from the truth behind right. Oh, don´t bother to read this StormCrow because you seem too narrow minded to comprehend it.

(Edited by Hindhunter at 5:17 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)

[fixOPFsoundsplease 0]

You guys do realise that the right for a race to exist with its own nation (geographically secure) is accorded by the United Nations.

Unfortunately the only race threatened with extinction in the near or foreseeable future is the northern European race. This makes all the business with Asia for Asians; Africa for Africans meaningless, and indeed hypocritical - because Europe is denied as a National Homeland for Europeans! Because of media-Govt. propaganda and superstitions.

Racial matters tend to give into profanity, various forms of cliched stereotypes, but that's to be expected at lower intellectual levels.

If the practical matter of Human Biodiversity and racial rights is to be examined thoroughly and effectively it must be at high intellectual levels. It would need to be kept at the highest echelon of political discussion and so on.  Factual physical anthropological data needs to be confronted by scientists and their political relatives if a realistic National existence is to occur soon enough for the Nordish to survive beyond the coming generations.

Yet I digress.

And remember, serious racism is moral racism. Moral racism is good for humanity, immoral racism is bad for humanity!

(Edited by fixOPFsoundsplease at 6:46 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)

[CK1 0]

All human beings are disgusting filthy earth destroying creatures, whose main goal is to have sex, reproduce and destroy natural resources.

Regardless of skin color, or origin.

[Unl33t 0]

Retro:

And this matters why?

[BIN LADEN 0]

NOW THIS IS RASICT "SUPREME WHITE POWER KKK!!!" Thats just a example so dont type RASICT!.

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from fixOPFsoundsplease on 6:37 pm on Dec. 6, 2001

You guys do realise that the right for a race to exist with its own nation (geographically secure) is accorded by the United Nations.

Unfortunately the only race threatened with extinction in the near or foreseeable future is the northern European race. This makes all the business with Asia for Asians; Africa for Africans meaningless, and indeed hypocritical - because Europe is denied as a National Homeland for Europeans! Because of media-Govt. propaganda and superstitions.

Racial matters tend to give into profanity, various forms of cliched stereotypes, but that's to be expected at lower intellectual levels.

If the practical matter of Human Biodiversity and racial rights is to be examined thoroughly and effectively it must be at high intellectual levels. It would need to be kept at the highest echelon of political discussion and so on.  Factual physical anthropological data needs to be confronted by scientists and their political relatives if a realistic National existence is to occur soon enough for the Nordish to survive beyond the coming generations.

Yet I digress.

And remember, serious racism is moral racism.  Moral racism is good for humanity, immoral racism is bad for humanity!

(Edited by fixOPFsoundsplease at 6:46 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)

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Race and ethnicity are cultural and social constructions. Physical anthropology was largely discontinued in the 30's. There is a reason for that, and it is not mainly political. It wasn't possible to explain social behavior with a basis in a race orientated scientific aproach.

The implication of this is not to say that some people (like you) don't use the term. Actually, it is still used by different political regimes with unfortunate results.

The results speak for themselves, but I'd like to give you one example: The Sami people are nomads and have historically had their livelihood from the pastures of northern scandinavia and Russia. Problem is that the idea of one nation - one people makes them without land, and as such, without the benefits of citizenship. In Norway they have been denied most rights and even persecuted. In the norwegian population this has, untill quite recently, been largely accepted because they just don't fit inn a homogenous population. They were also sterilized - and this happened as late as in the seventies!

Secondly, the idea of a european "race" is silly! The european "race", if you are into biology, can trace it's origin in asia (arian race if you like).

The idea of a homogenous population (in one country/nation) is just as silly. There will allways be ethnic diversity due to the fact that people actually do travel, work and move to other places. Also, cultural identity like "norwegians" for example is not posible whithout relating it to other identities. The opposite result would be "the sound of one hand clapping".

"The nordic race" I have actually more in common with a fellow student from anywhere in the world than a sheep farmer in the mountains of Norway.

It really shouldn't be important what you are (english,norwegian etc.), but what you do (tolerant, creative etc.)

Cheers!

(Edited by brgnorway at 3:26 am on Dec. 7, 2001)

[kobugui 0]

man, this topic is out of control

can u guy ever heard the word off-topic??