polygonpusher 10 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) I have superimposed the TWS reticle over the M107's mil-dot scope reticle. If you look closely the TWS reticle is not consistent in it's spacing and does not actually match a mil-dot pattern. Is this just a sloppy graphical mistake in regard to the TWS reticle card? Is the TWS reticle "supposed" to use mil-dots? If it's not a mistake, and some other range system is used on the TWS reticle I'd be very grateful to know that it is. ARMA II is a fantastic package in it's scope and freedom, but I do wish for a little more clear cut documentation. This is one of those questions that has bothered me since I purchased ARMA II, and I've not been able to find an answer. Thank you so much! http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/be0fd062049ef7acbc553fe27fd110950e65727f5dc505d5751ea9fa797edc6f6g.jpg Edited May 5, 2011 by polygonpusher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leftie 0 Posted May 5, 2011 If the TWS scope has a different amplification (that is; a different field of view) from the M107 scope, then it follows that a MIL (milliradian) is a different size in that reticule, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polygonpusher 10 Posted May 5, 2011 Makes sense Leftie. I think your right, so it is in mills then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pease 10 Posted May 6, 2011 Why post a picture of the Scope for the M107 and a picture of the TWS on the M107 and we can determine that way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leftie 0 Posted May 6, 2011 Makes sense Leftie. I think your right, so it is in mills then? Actually, no :o I did some more digging, and found out that it apparently measures in Minutes of Angle (MOA), as opposed to MIL. (Those Americans and their archaic forms of measurement ... :rolleyes:) The famous Mil-dot reticle is known as a P3 type, whereas the TWS reticle is of the P4 type. See here for a comparison: http://www.schmidtbender.com/reticlesPM.htm NCStar has a good technical sheet for the P4 reticle here: http://www.ncstar.com/tech-faq.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polygonpusher 10 Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) Pease: That's exactly what I did, I took a screen shot of each scope, and overlayed one over the other - the standard M107 scope is in black and the TWS in blue. That way we can see exactly how they compare. Leftie: Thank you for the leg work, that seems an even more likely answer. To the developers I'd say: This REALLY needs to be IN THE MANUAL! If you pride yourselves on the quality and accuracy of your simulation, then please let us have CLEAR and PRECISE DOCUMENTATION as to what you are doing... We shouldn't have to "guess" on things like this. The ambiguity is one of the reasons why I favor richly documented sims like DCS A-10 Edited May 6, 2011 by polygonpusher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polygonpusher 10 Posted May 15, 2011 After testing with MOA range tables, and using the laser range finder in game, I still have no idea what the TWS scope card uses. Does anyone know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pease 10 Posted May 15, 2011 Pease: That's exactly what I did, I took a screen shot of each scope, and overlayed one over the other - the standard M107 scope is in black and the TWS in blue. That way we can see exactly how they compare.Leftie: Thank you for the leg work, that seems an even more likely answer. To the developers I'd say: This REALLY needs to be IN THE MANUAL! If you pride yourselves on the quality and accuracy of your simulation, then please let us have CLEAR and PRECISE DOCUMENTATION as to what you are doing... We shouldn't have to "guess" on things like this. The ambiguity is one of the reasons why I favor richly documented sims like DCS A-10 Go figure....I didn't even see it...sorry use to actually seeing it on the boards, nice job :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
