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  1. Talking only of standard, base game vehicles and radar mechanics, Anti-Air SPAAG vehicles are completely useless against a competent attack helicopter crew. Tactics and integrated air defense networks aside, the standard AA vehicle is entirely unable to effectively accomplish its role of protecting armored assets from air targets reliably. Due to the fact that I predominantly play KOTH I know I'm probably going to get a bunch of people in here telling me to play a real game mode but my point is about the BASE VEHICLES, not the gamemode in which they are used, and I'd like the responses to be limited to that context as well. Arma is a game that prides itself on its realism of combat systems. However the AA problem is a glaring deficiency in what I consider to be an otherwise outstanding game. My main points of contention come from a few simple facts about the imbalances between ground AA and air assets with guided missiles and radar. They are: 1) Radar and spotting ground vs air It is significantly easier to spot ground targets from the air with radar vs spotting air targets from ground radar. This is simply because the radar mechanics in arma are on a 2D plane with only flat distance information given. In a helicopter this is perfectly fine as the ground is also a flat plane, you simply look along that plane at the specific distance and heading and find your target immediately. On the ground, it is a different story. The helicopter could be 4KM away and 4km up, or flying nap of the earth, or anywhere in between. Finding the altitude of a helicopter at max distance is a process that takes time that an AA vehicle doesn't have to spare, while the helo, given that it is finding targets on a 2D plane instead of a 3D space, doesn't have to deal with it. It is mathematically easier, and when trying to contest good helicopter pilots it is a significant disadvantage when seconds count. 2) Countermeasure systems Helicopter countermeasures are extremely effective at range. I don't know the exact percentages but firing all 4 titan missiles at a helicopter and not hitting a single one is not an uncommon occurrence (and yes I've tried a bunch of different strategies for shooting missiles at helicopters). Flares do not impede the helicopter from continuing active fire, do not have an activation cooldown between uses, do not have as limited number of uses vs smoke, nor do they require an extra player in the vehicle to activate. Smoke denies the ground vehicle the ability to continue return fire, limits its location to within the smoke preventing relocation, has a cooldown between uses, has a much more limited number of uses, and requires an extra player in the vehicle besides the driver/gunner. While none of this is directly related to the primary issue of helicopters vs AA vehicles, I figured it was worth showing another series of inequalities in defensive options. 3) Ranges and and weapon systems Now for the meat of the argument. The AA vehicles cannot contest helicopters with their weapons unless the pilot makes a mistake (read: is a noob). I know the counterargument for some of this is going to be 'ITS JUST A GAME' but if we are striving for a realistic environment it needs to be said. AA vehicle-based weaponry should outrange helicopter weapons, period end of story. The fact that the most common (and effective) tactic is to fly at max altitude and rain ATGMs on anything with a radar signature is ridiculous for a helicopter to be able to do in a radar-based ADN environment. IRL if you were in a helicopter doing that in the vicinity of a dedicated radar AA platform you would be obliterated in the time it takes to fire the missile. Right now the primary target of AA vehicles (THE HELICOPTER) outmatches it so completely, it is never worth it to buy an AA vehicle to shoot it out of the sky. Guns are not auto tracked (like we have now irl, let alone 25 years in the future) but manually aimed, they give you heading information but do not auto-range, and the damage they deal is incremental over time based on how often you score a hit (which if the helicopter is maneuvering at max range and altitude is hard to do consistently, call me a noob all you want but it is a hell of a lot easier to hit a slow moving tracked vehicle once than to hit a maneuvering helicopter multiple times). Meanwhile the ATGM system on the helicopter needs to hit once (or in the case of DAGRs about 4 times but when fired in quick succession it functions the same) and you are instantly dead. You can pop smoke to avoid the auto targetting feature on the chopper but you don't have enough smoke on the vehicle to actually survive continued contact from even a single helicopter's payload outside of getting rearmed, and I have already described the deficiencies of the smoke defense in the above point. Titan missiles are not consistent with the countermeasure system and that is assuming you are alive for long enough when facing off against a helicopter to actually get a lock and use them all before needing to pop smoke and ruin your ability to fire effectively. Damage, weapon systems, countermeasure systems and target tracking on ground based AA vehicles are all objectively worse than attack helicopters for the base vehicles. Yes, you can disable some of these features. Yes, you can mod them. But the fact remains that there is a vehicle in the game that is incapable of fulfilling its primary role (again, unless the pilot does something stupid but you can't plan for that) due to the mechanics of the game if all features are enabled. In a vacuum, an AA vehicle in the open should be able to beat an attack helicopter in the open. The opposite is true as the game is now. There are a few fixes that could be implemented that could help address this issue: 1) Autotracking guns We have them now, today. No AA piece is manually fired anymore unless you are subjected to HARM SEAD sorties which is not the case in the game for most multiplayer situations. Immediately getting a firing solution and gun lock on a helicopter would go a long way in terms of being able to instantly suppress the gunner and bring down a helicopter in the open. 2) Longer range locking missile The primary weapon for most ground based AA vehicles that take on modern attack helicopters is a missile/radar system combo that outranges the ATGMs that helicopters bring. THATS WHY YOU TAKE THEM ON THE VEHICLE. They are big and accurate and can't be carried by people. Right now we have MANPADS strapped to the sides of this thing that are literally the same thing infantry carry and no better. The gun is worse and the missiles are too short range to effectively face off against a helicopter due to the countermeasures issue discussed earlier. If there was a missile that had a longer lock on range vs the attack helicopter ATGMs that would not only balance the gameplay against high-flying attack helicopters but also actually be realistic. 3) Missile less likely to be spoofed by countermeasures Again, looking at what we have now in the military with combination IR/UV seeker heads, flare-based countermeasures should be way less effective than what they are now. If after all of the things I described in the engagements earlier don't come to pass and you actually do manage to get a lock and fire your weapons at a careless pilot, they probably won't hit if the enemy knows how to evade missiles. AA missiles (especially vehicle based variants!) should be a way bigger threat to helicopters if one gets launched at it and right now they aren't. This lack of threat leads to specifically the gameplay strategy of staying at max altitude over the AO and being uncontested except by other helicopters, almost never by ground-based AA vehicles which SHOULD be the primary threat and concern for helicopter pilots. Instead, nap of the earth flight with limited radar visibility should be the norm as that would actually require a level of sneakiness and vulnerability that would be open to a lot more opportunities for engaging helicopters with other weapons, and also because that's how helicopters have to operate to stay alive in a contested AA zone. TLDR: Please fix AA vehicles. Also is this actually the right place to post this? If not let me know where it goes.
  2. Magic radar is dead, long live the feature-creep! As a part of the Jets DLC 'platform upgrade' (ie the free features available to everyone that owns Arma 3), we're releasing an early, rough version of our revisited take on electronic warfare. Part of Arma that was admittedly experiencing some red chains and needed a buff. With the upcoming Jets DLC (and thanks to your feedback) we now have a chance to overhaul big chunks of the target detection and tracking mechanics. Before we go any further, I recommend you to reset your keybinds to the A3 or Apex preset (and dump all the hours you've spent customizing them) - otherwise you'll see a lot of missing strings and unnecessary action menu entries. ;) Let's split it into three parts: mechanics, UI and assets. Target Detection & Tacking The separation of various sensor types and unification of configuration. Sensors can detect targets by Infra-red or Visible spectrum, by active radar or passive radar detection (RWR), by Laser or NV spots and there also can be a sensor for tracking small targets like individual soldiers. Common properties are ranges, angles, how well the sensors detect targets against ground or sky background, how high the target needs to be or how fast it needs to move to be detected. Some of the sensors have unique properties: IR needs the target vehicle to have actually heated up (not just engine on/off) Radar can be switched off (by default: CTRL + R) AI switches the Radar ON in Aware and Combat And Passive radar or RWR detects those that didn't do so :) Targets can now vary in their signatures too. Terrain, route planning, vehicle selection, careful radar usage now makes a big difference. More details about this will be soon available on wiki, in samples, and via an OPREP. The same system can be used for both missile seekers (ammo sensors) and vehicles. So far, we've configured only part of our vehicle ORBAT. Sensor Display & Symbology Current symbology version Prev.version The old magical radar slash compass* slash RWR is gone. It has been replaced by a brand-new synthetic Sensor Display (or Tactical Awareness or Tactical Situation Display if you wish). Yes, it's in the UI. Again, no nice display on modelled MFDs. But no unicorns either. It falls under another novelty - the Custom Info - where you'll find how to open and switch to the Sensor Display. What can be displayed: Where the targets are What type of targets What is their allegiance** Where are the threats What are the ranges of your sensors What you have assigned, marked and what is the type of marked target** And if you happen to have the radar and it's switched on then you can also see target's speed, altitude ASL and distance * Lack of compass means no functionality for relative turrets' directions. We'll bring it back via other means ASAP. ** The target type on Sensor display allowed us to remove the name tag from mark and lock symbols in 3D. Together with it - and this has a major gameplay impact - is gone the automatic red coloring of enemies. Assets -to be updated- What it can't do, what's still heavily in progress, where we need your feedback Balancing - it's rough and quite random atm. A big one where we need your playtesting and feedback. We won't push it into Main Branch anytime soon - expect at least 2 months of public testing and balancing. Enemy confirmation - you've probably noticed the enemy symbology. That's for confirmed enemies only. What's that? We plan to add scripts that you could utilize to have entities confirmed as enemies by any way you find useful. Symbology - something we're still uncertain about. Would you like the old squares vs. triangles better? Internal tests show us that the one available now in Dev Branch may be quite unintuitive. We need your feedback here. Target Recognition - currently the sensor recognizes the target almost immediately. We had ideas about delays or variable recognition distances based on the sensor. Kudos to our modders and community for feedback, shared knowledge and endless inspiration (heya, mando missile :)) And one special nod to airwarriors.com. Documentation: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Sensors
  3. Alongside our planned Jets DLC platform upgrades, we needed moar UI. But quite a big part of the ingame screen is already taken by various elements and gadgets. We realize that, despite our goal to be more 'minimalistic' with UI, we have quite a lot going on in there. We've decided to put some elements into 'generic containers'. Together with Weapon and Vehicle Info, we now have a system called 'Custom Info'. It's 'Custom' because it allows you to pick which ones you want to have displayed in game. Custom also because creates a framework for modders to use - more about that later on wiki. Before we go any further, I recommend you to reset your keybinds to A3 or Apex preset (and dump all the hours you've spent customizing them) - otherwise you'll see a lot of missing strings and unnecessary action menu entries. As a player, what you get is a system of two windows - left and right. You have actions to toggle modules inside these windows. By default: [ - next module (GPS, feed, sensor display....) on left display RCTRL + [ - toggle sub-mode (range, feed spectrum...) on left display ] - next module on right display RCTRL + ] - toggle sub-mode on right display (no default keybind) - previous module on left display (no default keybind) - previous module on right display (no default keybind) - close left display (no default keybind) - close right display You can find following modules: Navigation (if your have a GPS item or GPS is configured as integral part of your vehicle) - the navigation is now rotating. The tech is being improved, so you can expect some hickups. Slingload assistant (if your vehicle can slingload) UAV camera feed (if you have an UAV terminal) Crew list (If you are inside a vehicle) In addition - in all military aircraft - you will have a Sensor display. More about that in the Sensor Overhaul feedback thread In all tanks, APCs, MRAPs and similar 'advanced' vehicles, you will have camera feeds from other crew's positions. In attack aircraft (gunships, fighters, CAS), you will also have feeds from TGP (driver), gunner and also from a launched missile wherever applicable. The old actions for GPS, Drone feed and Slingload assistant still work and will directly switch the default window to the respective module. Enjoy, and let us know what you think!
  4. when i playing in wasteland servers mostly playing in independ team. so they are free from others. so when we use something with radar other independ vehicles are green on radar. they sees them friendly targets but they are not. and R key dont select them i must use T key on them with real vision. i mean manuel targeting. is there a way select friendly targets on radar ? like selecting enemies.
  5. RADAR/PANEL BUG

    I do not know what is happening but now the scroll no longer appears the option to use the panel and I can only do these things by key bind the most bizarre is that with mods I can not change the range of my radar and still yes the option of the panel does not appear, can anyone help me?
  6. I would like to disable the vehicle panels showing GPS, radar, and crew. I have tried using the showHUD command and its parameters, but it does not work for vehicles.
  7. Not able to turn on radar

    Hi, I am currently having an in-game issue where I cannot seem to enable the radar in the scroll menu. I've tried launching my game with and without mods, but with no luck - the option simply does not appear in the scroll menu when I am inside a plane.
  8. In koth the radar is not working proper anymore, when i am on blue sight and want to join a dogfight in jets for example and the enemy team is using a Wipeout i cant lock on to him. I know that the Wipeout usualy is a Bluefor jet, before 1.68 there was no problem with the radar and the lock on but after that i cant get a lock on or the right radar symbol. R and T not working The Cheetah radar is not working in any way, and R and T as well are bugged. 8/10 Times nothing is working.
  9. Hello, since the last Update that is realy fresh and gives the game more stability and realy nice jet sounds, i recogniced one problem. I was playing on a official Koth-Server EU#2, all jets in the air were shown all the time as friendly jets and i was 90% of the time unable to lock on to them in a Tigris Even if i was in a Team the map showed them as friendly jet and even after locking them on manualy with T they still were shown as friendly on the map and on the small radar on the top of the screen. Thats realy frustrating and you lose some serious amount of money. just wanted to tell you this issue, thx
  10. I'm playing around with the editor, where I fly around and engage hostile Ifrit HMG's and I noticed I no longer get radar contacts (grey boxes in the the top center circle). I know that I can't lock on since the AH-9 Pawnee only has direct fire weapons but I used to be able to target. Is this a bug or did Bohemia change the mechanics? (I guess you would need targeting pod to track targets in real life, so maybe this is part of adding some realism?) Video from a few years back where the contacts would show up in the radar (probably need to go full screen to see them)
  11. Hey guys, The Question is if it is possible to get a list of objects shown in vehicles radar? The reason is that I am working on some little FSM scripts to enhance A.I. shooting from vehicles. Until now I have a zu-39 tigris with this "Tigris Flak Conversion Script". The vanilla ai begins to shoot only if the directly attacking plane (a10) has passed the tigris. My FSM script enhanced that behavior and now tigris begins to shoot if A-10 is about 1.000 m away. Maybe I can optimize it some more. Why I need that radar objects? I want the tigris to target and shoot the A-10 only if it appears on the radar of tigris.
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