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Reuters - Russian 'food crematoria' provoke outrage amid crisis, famine memories
Imported cheese from Europe now apparently poses a serious security threat to Russia. Good thing Putin stepped in in time and ordered to execute all those liberal gay foods.
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So we know about Putins approval in his own country, but what about other countries?
(Click the image)
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Its been a while since we have seen a video from the situation on the ground. -
Now if you want, we can compare it with the main Russian Media :j::
RT, Former Russia Today (state owned)
TASS, former Itar TASS (state owned)
Rossiya Segodnya, Former RIA Novosti (state owned)
Sputnik News (state owned)
Gazprom-Media (privately owned: Gazprom)
Russia 1 / 2 / 24 (state owned)
Moskva 24 (state owned)
Rossiyskaya Gazeta (state owned)
Moskovskiye Novosti (state owned)
Pravda (privately owned: Communist Party of the RF)
So no the Western Media is not controlled by the Govs, unlike the Russian media.
I'm pretty sure Gazprom counts as state owned as well.
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Despite claims by all sides that heavy weapons had been withdrawn, the SMM continued to observe heavy weapons in areas proscribed by the Minsk arrangements: in government-controlled areas, a twin-barrelled anti-aircraft gun (ZSU-23-2), four multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) (BM-21), four main battle tanks (MBT) (T-64), four MLRS (BM-21), four MBTs (T-64) and five military trucks transporting various types of ammunition. In “LPRâ€-controlled areas, at two different locations the SMM noted in total 36 MBTs (T-64).In addition, SMM unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) continued to observe concentrations of military hardware in and around “DPRâ€-controlled Komsomolske (49km south of Donetsk), noting five MBTs, 43 armoured personnel carriers and 100 military-type trucks. Furthermore, in “DPRâ€-controlled areas the UAVs spotted the following: in Bezimene (13km east of Mariupol) three MBTs, in Novolaspa (48km south of Donetsk) one MBT, in Bila Kamyanka (54km south of Donetsk) one MBT and one self-propelled howitzer and in Yakovlivka (7km east of Donetsk) three artillery pieces. In government-controlled areas the UAVs spotted three MBTs in Starohnativka (52km south of Donetsk) and one MBT near Berezove (30km south-west of Donetsk). While monitoring DPR-controlled territory east and north-east of Mariupol
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It is when people are taking guns and don't respect the law. They just want to be the most powerful gang. NSDAP did the same at its time.I'm not entirely sure, but if they are part of the national guard its kinda their job to take guns, so they are kinda within the law. And with the stuff at Mukachevo they were fighting criminals, until it turned out that the criminals actually belong to government.
in politically correct left west it soon will be crime, in some western countries there were ideas to penalize if you will say you are against gay pride parade ,political correctness from west is the same when it comes to censoring,
thats why people from west do not understand things that for us Slavs are normal,
for us crime is when someone rob other person (because property is saint and for many of us you can kill for property like in USA thinking, Slavic thinking is closer to US-Republicans thinking than to western left-wing thinking , we are closer in minds to USA than to EU ;) ) for them crime is when someone doesn't want gay parade in his city,
for us crime is robbery, for them killing robber which was not armed,
things they call nationalism- we call "taking care about our people" because their government DO CARE about them, so they do not understand that we live in countries which governments do opposite,
because all German, French, British etc. governments support things good and profitable for local markets,
first they had colonies,
than they had corporations, banks - which take income from Slavic countries and transfer income to west (data given in European topic where i linked such international economical researches)
we had no colonies, we had kings which treated us badly (like Black people in USA in XIXc , we had here slavery till 1860s , in USA slavery was for Black, in slavic kingdoms for "farmers")
we were always poor,
and now our governments are puppets of their governments,
thats why they do not understand, because they live in rich societies and all benefits, social care, safety etc. is from their government
we live in opposite situation,
it is like discussion about colors between 2 blinds, or discussion about music between 2 def,
we have to fight for things they have from birth
and our "elites" are simply corrupted puppets of their corporations and banks,
and their wealth comes also from our area (money tranfers of banks, supermarkets which do not pay taxes here and transfer profits to their countries)
more over , west see "nationalim" in Slavic country
but they fail to see their own nationalism - because how other way you can call:
- transfer of money from one area to other (supermarkets, banks),
- deals with Russia despite sanctions - local Italian, German, French companies selling products to Russia to give jobs in Italy, Germany , France - this is nationalism in economy in purest form,
- buying for bribes our industry in 1990, destroying our industry, selling here their products to make them have jobs in west ? this is nationalism
but not on banners but in economy
I agree with most of what you are saying, but I am kinda guilty of living in a rich society with all benefits at the moment. :)
As for nationalism being a crime, I always admired the Germans for having the guts to allow the NPD instead of stepping on freedom, but there's always the swastika being pretty much banned.
One thing I always dislike though is calling all countries puppets of the western banks. Yes, the governments are often corrupted, but they are criminals for their own benefit. What was really a puppet government was the old Ukrainian government. Most had extremely close ties to Russia with it even reaching as far as with Medvedchuk, who is still around. The godfather of his daughter is Vladimir Putin. The problem now is that although the old government fled to Russia, you still have these politicians around. And they are not only more loyal to Russia, but they are also highly involved with local criminals and the Mafia.
With that out of they way, most people are still criminal for their own benefit, and will go where they see the most money. If for them its suddenly more beneficial to go with the EU for example, they will ditch Russia. But in my opinion that's not really what constitutes a puppet. The master chooses the puppet, not the other way around.
And money leaving the country is also because people do it for their own benefit. Banks don't force Russian oligarchs for example to transfer their money to the west. The oligarchs do it to keep their money safe, tax free and invisible for the russian economy.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that the fault lies within the corrupt officials and criminals within the country, not the outside.
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You seriously think that Right Sektor isn't a criminal gang ?Nationalism isn't really a crime.
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So these guys are on the side of Lanyo, together with the police. Kinda shows the level of corruption.
And I thought Poroshenko wanted to disarm illegal armed gangs...
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So there was apparently some kind of shootout between Right Sector and the Mafia, which has ties to the deputy Mikhail Lanyo in Mukachevo. The shootout happened at a sport center owned by Lanyo. RS got into the confrontation on their own behalf, without the approval of the government, meaning it was an illegal move. 2 members of RS died and 4 were wounded.
Right Sector had apparently also patrolled the region before, removing illegal casinos and confiscating contraband (Which they possibly cant do because they are not the police?).
So basically there is now preparations for a standoff between RS and the government. The locals seem to be on the side of RS.
Well at least thats what I got out of it all. At the moment everything is pretty confusing, so I wonder where this is going.
Special Police on the way to Mukachevo
The government is still quiet and does not directly blame the incident on right sector. There is only talk about "armed gangs".
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How can someone driving a Prius be a bad person? -
Holy carp, looks like I missed a lot of hilarity!
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Looks like our communist hippy-warrior friend from Texas is still alive and kicking. -
Well, getting drilled is one thing, but running around fully equipped in a conflict zone with a rifle is another thing.
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This needs to be implemented into ACE, or better yet, into vanilla ArmA!
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Looks like Putlerjugend is a thing.
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Well you should provide more context when posting videos, simply putting a russian video in there and expecting that we all understand what it is about is not enough. So that guy is an actor?I thought the different dates would make it obvious, but I sometimes forget not everybody speaks russian. :D
Anyway, the same guy supposedly played a captured right sector member back in Slovyansk.
To me those guys actually don't look the same on a second look, but theres this video:
Here he says that he did not fight in Maryinka (Because he was buying alcoholic supplies) and that he has no idea about any casualties.
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Did you guys even watch my post? Hes not even a soldier, hes an actor!
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How long are we still going to believe these videos of "captured" "soldiers"?This could also be a proof that they're putting words in prisoner's mouth and he got confused what he was going to say. Or that it was actually a pretty big fight
Or its just total BS propaganda, like all the other countless times.
Also he is saying that the army attacked the separatist controlled Maryinka, even though we know it was the other way around, so its more likely that more separatists got captured.
I do not condone this treatment of prisoners btw, but its still worlds better than what we see from the separatists side, like cutting of ears, forcing them to dig their own graves and so on.
Meanwhile in Rostov
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Because i am noticing we are letting ourselves jump into conclusions far to easily, on a undoubtedly too important issue: that of assigning responsibility to either side in matter that risks further escalation.Its not about responsibility, its about the separatists launching a full scale offensive. There is no risk of escalation, this is the escalation.
And if you are really on about responsibility so much, why do you have to make it so dodgy? There is only one side that launched an offensive.
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Why is this still a discussion? The separatists launched an offensive on Marinka, breaking the relative peace. There were no separatists there, then they came, died a bit and left. The end.
In the attack they reportedly killed at least about ~30 people and attacked with about ~10 tanks, that is a huge difference to the usual 2-4 dead due to shelling in the entire area.
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