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Misty Ronin has also said that likely we may see more Spec Ops small unit type stuff. Again its doable.

jone_kone I think at this stage you likely correct. I had hoped for the Chinese PLA versus the US Marines and a local faction either sympathetic to CSAT or NATO or two. I am not sure how many Asian Head models are in Arsenal. I think there is 3. Or two so they would just need the Englihised Asian dialog. If they want to go down that route. Pity its not actual real Mandarin. Likely the F35 may make an appearance. Wasn't that cut? There are Mods for that tough. But a faction specific fast mover may be needed. People have asked for Dog fights. CSAT now that I think of it can easily-by BIS standards-be brought into Tanoa with a new Jungle camo. That...a new arm patch and maybe a new assault rifle. Maybe a new MG for them. If they time strapped they can just apply a greenish OD green texture on the existing weapons to make them pass for jungle. I have even generated jungle variants of their Hex camo. Just flat 2D textures. So CSAT with new textures in Tanoa wont be too hard. Just the new models of the OPFOR assets; their VTOL or LSV or new weapons. That may take some time. Even the existing vehicles can be brought over by simply applying a Jungle green hex texture. They have the source files in layers. There is also already a Jungle version of MTP from Multicam. Again its re-photoshopping the existing NATO MTP/ Scorpion 2 textures. Applying a flat OD green texture to said NATO vehicles. Likely the cut XM 25 may show up and a new MG. There was a pic taken a while back with Matt Lightfoot with the US Army. So likely a M240B. There was also a image of a modernized M249SAW someone had dug up in the ArmA3 source files. NATO never had a medium MG unless you count the MXSW. So likely we may see cut stuff returning. With a few bells and whistles. It all comes down to how much work I guess the art guys put into Apex.

I think its most of our fears... That and lack of content for the expansion. On another point. I just didn't want to be the odd want out months from now with no Apex, maybe miss all the highlights regards stuff released on DEV. So I bought into Apex last week. I would have liked to have waited for reveals, but its very quiet. Too quiet. Again not sure why other then the mentioned we want to be sure we can pull it off. But I did get a reply indirectly from Petr on Twitter that the next reveal may be on Tanoa. At least thats how I understood it. As for when...well hurry up and lets wait.

That is correct but according to the Tanoa video. They said its based on Fiji. Just minus the name.

It is always a good idea to test without mods

Not sure if the Dev's have time to code these features in Arsenal and that thus introduced to Arsenal in EDen, in light with time likely needed on Apex. But it is a bit of a work around. Build character in Arsenal. Export and paste in Notepad. Then copy line of this additem to backpack with said optic. Just to add a secondary Optic to your bag. It would be great if we can add any magazine or optic or weapon to said backpack from within Arsenal and not have to use Arsenal half way then export and edit said contents in Notepad. Reading your replies above. I am hoping its not a to much of an issue to implement this. But if is we will have to live with it. Secondly Arsenal in EDen lacks faces. Again why wasn't this brought in with it reflecting real time. When you preview in EDen again. That and voices. I see EDen has it in the Editor but not tied to Arsenal.

Agreed...

wiki Apex was slated for release in Q2 which makes June 2016 correct. Obviously they are busy with some new marketing related artwork, videos, reveals etc. Title graphics maybe. But its odd that the release on Steam has not coincided with anything new. All images and video on Steam are what we have seen. Playing this very close to your chest Jay Crowe :ph34r:

LordJarhead I kinda got the @ss end of this discussion. But for what its worth. I really value the work put into JSRS. It has blown my mind sound wise. I really think they could use your more officially. No disrespect to the BIS sound guys. That said I am not sure if this has been asked, but would JSRS ever be on Steam Workshop? I have to often download the whole sound pack from scratch when changes happen.

Think you taking this too literally as we are complaining. I personally speaking for myself do not think they will do something unless there is a reason. Hence why now after EDen? EDen follows onto Apex. They busy. No one who works just randomly decides oh wait let me just do that thing that we haven't touched in 3 years for fun. Are you that bored LOL? Since if it is a small bit of config editing that doesn't take long, this may have been done sooner No? A little weekend coding away from your actual work week to say hey community here is some extra bells and whistles. I merely asked a question because I think this is part of Apex...Somehow! Its their right not to indulge me and tip their hand. But if it is a bit of harmless work I am sure it will be replied to as we just decided why not now. If they do not say anything. Perhaps there is a larger plan to all this...namely Apex. I do know past all the small tweaks to EDen and sound tweaks and the odd AI tweak. The stuff we see daily tweaked or added on the Changelog. The only thing outstanding now is the Visual update slated to come with Apex as another free update. And Apex so we all know they knuckling down to get this puppy out the door.

While we do appreciate some new things even if its the emperors new clothes. But! Million dollar question....Why? My now? Was it more out of boredom or is there a reason why now these were made available? Of course you wont likely say why LOL. But hey at least I asked.

I think you need to put the first waypoint to Hold. It seemed to worked under the old 2D Editor system...the move waypoints. But if I am understanding your query. Set the first waypoint to Hold. That when the trigger fires. You will see the Triggers now have skip waypoint. It should work as I discovered that when EDen was first on dev branch a while back

In the Video Jay Crowe said that the visual Update is now scheduled for Apex. From what I was told EDen has taken up alot pf their time. I see some the new Sound update has gone to Dev. Not sure if it means all sounds.

But it makes for interesting fun reading as we all wait patiently for Petr to do his whole live stream reveal. I was trying to reply to Misty's points. But it turned into a 3 hour type on it wait, type on it further wait. Work took over and I couldn't complete a comprehensive set of replies. If you mean me sorry I didn't know it would be an issue.

Wait Misty you changed your Pic? I thought I was chatting to another person. Just proves he dont read. Now I am gonna have to go all update full retard to. Speculation why did Misty Ronin change his Pic.

I was busy with a reply but I got so busy at work and got side tracked. I would need some time to reply each point. Since you being all technical LOL.

But at its core its still shooting just with different skins. I was going to add to my argument yes some will say but what about Hardline. But my point is Dice makes FPS shooty games. If they did a truck simulator under the BF name there would be a collective sh!t storm. If you go back to this page https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/165834-next-dlc-and-expansion-speculation/ All the answers are there what we will get. That is if they stick with the story established in vanilla ArmA 3. So it will either be North Korea or China-part of CSAT. An Asiatic force. Already Asian heads in Game. US Marines. The modern "Osprey" VTOL shown. That is a Marine system. Likely Japan as Independent or a Tanoa independent guerrilla faction versus another Tanoa Government funded force. Maybe sympathetic to CSAT. Ties to the East and West is mentioned on the page above. There is some post online of a BIS animator who said he is tweaking animation speeds for a AK and M4. There is also a video doing its rounds on You Tube where the guy says the US marines will likely run with black MX weapons. Further left over Woodland M88 camo in Vanilla ArmA 3. Which can be used on a rag tag guerrilla faction. The US Marines have basically a few need vehicles. Osprey as air transport. Amtrac light APC LAV heavily armed APC or unless they do Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle Maybe if you picky a Abrams LSV isn't a Marine tight Vehicle. But this is likely some artistic freedom. So I nailed my colours to the mast. That's what I think will happen. Maybe some Force Recon unit coupled to the Marines. The CSAT T shirt with some multiple optic NVG likely a OPFOR Spec ops team as a balance to the the Force Recon Blufor.

Okay news from the Top. The BIS team are busy putting EDen to bed. Everything is geared towards that now. You can after that likely expect news on Apex.

The name Blue Pearl would be a new reveal. But the harbor was briefly seen in the Tanoa reveal trailer. It may have been a placeholder or it was in fact a final model(s)-the cranes and containers etc. Its hard to know when the "Twitter" pic was taken since it may be from months ago only uploaded now or them just taking a pic with old work as they pour over Tanoa for any issues. I am seriously considering making a BIS ArmA 3 cake and taking a few pics or making some sorta funny You Tube video to cajole the Devs into maybe a secret or two. I have tweeted to Petr asking if they cant say anything can he at least say when they can say something. I figure a no one like me wont elicit a reply. But perhaps a industry recognized Modder can get a reply.

I think we are more debating (speculating) what would work best here...I do realise not everything you like every one does like. But that is so crucial to do market analysis. I just wish the Devs said more here even if its to tell us we are all wrong. But I agree its very water centric it would be a missed opportunity to not play/ utilise that premise. Perhaps Misty will humor me with high poly LAV or as he wants a armed bicycle LOL http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/47/DF_506.jpg/600px-DF_506.jpg There is an idea Misty the old Chuck Norris Delta Force death machine. Action Menu Delta Force 1 theme song.

And no disrespect to you Misty. I believe what you do is a high standard.

The story hints of a major pacific crises. If its a small boat, buggy and guerrilla faction. I am not sure if those assets can be seen in a military context used in the premise of a major Flashpoint. We invading with Schwinn Mountain bikes and Suzuki Motorcross bikes. When I think pacific I think US Marines. Console based rigid rubber duck...non military. You can then say what about a Row boat? Boring? So is a basic inflatable even if it has a steering wheel. Jetski...non military. Plane...non military. What sight see? All these to me are pointless. You may as well be able to drive the seen excavator or have a giant CAT dump truck. Or play around stacking Port containers with the Harbour crane. Maybe throw in even some jalopy island cars. RHS builds military gear. Imagine if RHS built Toyotas and Man trucks. I don't think we would be that keen or excited about your updates then. Because well its a military Game. If its just that above as you said. How is it then a Mod team-who works for free and does it for "hobby". Who doesn't have all the access to the trade secrets. How is it that it cranks out more then BIS? Okay sure they(BIS) are maybe building bigger systems Arsenal. Zeus End Game. Bug hunting multi player code. Maybe you can argue RHS has started longer back or they have more modelers. If it was the case just maybe BIS couldn't commit to such huge updates. Why not on Contract employ RHS? I have suggested this the key roll players at BIS. If you cannot handle the work-out source. Its not rocket science. Yes I know about Black Element but I only saw civilian stuff. Boat wrecks. huts etc. VTOL...jury out on scope and angle of this. Modernised V22 Osprey or Osprey mixed with Spooky gunship? This is Military LSV...would like to see an armed variant.. Again waiting to see scope and angle of what it can do. Tanoa...tropical island. You maintain only BIS can pull off an awesome island. True. Its their Engine. But there are already awesome Islands. CUP terrains porting over a lot of older terrains. More bang for your buck and its again free. So an Island isn't for me a good enough reason I want Apex. Here is more context if Dice did Battlefield 5 and the rest of their DLC's were civilian packs...cars boats helicopters. Would they sell? I doubt it because it doesn't support its premise. Blowing Sh!t up! Lastly if they are banking on the confirmed stuff...I wouldn't call this a major expansion. I would call it a DLC. And not some cool name like Apex. I would call it The Tanoan DLC.

If only I was a fly on the wall...may as well say palm tree and boat wreck confirmed. Or nothing confirmed confirmed. Perhaps someone close to the BIS Czech office can gate crash. Corporate espionage! Pizza delivery... Even if the "for yours eyes only" is a valid technique to mitigate damage. There will be disappointed people. Unless suddenly before Q2 they have a huge change of heart and go into crises mode coupled to overtime and sum up the sum total of our wishes and crank out everything requested. I doubt at this stage much will change. If the Q2 deadline is to be stuck with. That is end June. If you want to see Q2 through to its very end. 5 Months is what we have left including February. I don't think 5 months will be much time to make significant drastic changes. If any its likely rush to crank out more models. Or refine what they started on. So if they worried about lose lips. They will still get a proportion of upset Gamers if they wait for the last day anyway. Unless they banking on pre-orders to rake in the revenue and when it drops its too late. Money in the bank. Then again we now have Steam refund. But the pre-order runs through the BIS store so if you or can you request a refund since inherently it wasn't technically bought on Steam? Here is another worry. What happens if Apex is lack-luster. BIS will likely support ArmA 3 another few years marginally. I doubt we can expect another last kicks of the dying horse massive new DLC/ Expansion post Apex. So this is the swan song. After that is stability tweaks and maybe the odd lite feature but no new content. Again Mooders unite. Is it fair to judge ArmA 2 and its Operation Arrowhead with all its DLC's against ArmA 3 with two DLC's and Apex?