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That is not a fact, in fact every fact we ever knew about history doesn't have to be true. People will believe what suits them the best. Please do check some things out regarding the historical facts (you will find that 8000 is a way exaggerated number) but not just regarding this. It's the same with Ukraine events today. Thinking that your (who ever you might be) news are 100% true is foolish. Question some things. I can imagine that what you just posted is backed by Croat general opinion and not actual research.

You can maybe read some more historical stuff than that. For example Srebrnica, where no orders from any higher directive was given, where corpses of soldiers and civilians are collected together to make the body count higher, and still couple of thousand are added by imagination to justify any action. Please, there are now movements to uncover the historical truth, and what has been spread until now is a far cry from the truth.

Wait, mass-executions, thousands of civilians, mass rapings? Where are you getting your info from? Could you please show anything to support that claim? If you're saying that Milosevic was a terrorist, then what is terrorism? Sure Milosevic was bad, but not a terrorist or a greater terrorist than UCK or ANA. UCK was responsible for mass murders and other horrific acts against civilians (that is terrorism - targeting civilians). Following that logic, one could also say that NATO is the greatest terrorist organisation in the world.

You didn't prove anything, except your naivety. Before you pop out some wikipedia articles, please do some thinking and decide if you want to stick with NATO being independent from US.

Ah, you poor naive people.

NATO is governed by the US. NATO goes to war where US tells it to so it is not that different. As for examples, someone already posted a list. You have it couple of pages back. Libya is my favorite apart from Serbia.

NATO is a terrorist organisation basically. Their operations are aimed to scare people into influencing government which is the definition of terrorism. Their operations differ from Russian because they don't fight for territory or honor or justice (as some want you to believe), they fight for export market. The tactics where they destroy your economy and then you pay them to rebuild it. This is being spearheaded by the US. Being a soldier is just being a pawn in a much greater chess game. An expendable puppet. Not just in NATO but on all sides. It is not justifying NATO when saying that their methods are modern. It is doing the same evil thing just presented nicer.

The referendum then like now was not legal, but some chose to ignore the fact. It was not an attack it was an "anti-terror" operation as some might put it today. But that's all offtopic. In short NATO is a much greater aggressor than Russia.

Yugoslavia --- WAR ---- Yugoslavia + Croatia + Bosnia + Slovenia + Macedonia. Ergo it was a rebellion. If the excuse was the "oppression" (which is ridicules) then why doesn't it hold water now? HYPOCRISY! ---------- Post added at 08:41 ---------- Previous post was at 08:39 ---------- NATO=USA. Come on, you don't know that by now? ---------- Post added at 08:42 ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 ---------- Would you care to wright them down? ---------- Post added at 08:50 ---------- Previous post was at 08:42 ---------- Of course that this referendum is illegal now, but when it played in favor of the west it was legal. Example's are referendums of 2006 and 2007 on the Balkans. The west decides to back some rebels and condemn others. Why is that? Oppression? No, they don't giva a f*** about others, it's only their political interests.

It was unneeded extensive use of force, with no legal backbone. So yes it was an aggression (1992-2007), with effects still felt today. ---------- Post added at 18:01 ---------- Previous post was at 17:59 ---------- None, but it sure created couple of new ones, and destroyed some economies. If the war was provoked it sure wasn't by Serbia since the other countries separated from it.

How? With what?

Serbia. Or are u not counting it in Europe?

Yes in Europe and elsewhere. Not saying it is an excuse, just pointing out western hypocrisy.

It is a change of pace, because the west was the aggressor until now.

This doesn't have much to do with Putin or his ideas, as someone already said, there is a web of interests around every ruler.

I don't think the situation is comparable to that in 1939. It is very unlikely for Russia to mount a full scale invasion, and even if the rebels win it is also unlikely that they will join RF (they would also only control a small part of Ukraine which is ruined by the war). After all things can't be done today as they could back then.

But fairly useless though.

How is that?

Yes it does. The only difference are those thin plates hanging of the ERA.

Putin probably won't attack anything. More possible is NATO attacking Russia for whatever reason.

Don't know, but if it starts the NATO bases are going to be targets no. 1. ---------- Post added at 10:31 ---------- Previous post was at 10:29 ---------- The Washington posts report is full of stuff that has been taken out of context and twisted to produce hysteria. 1st the statements of Vladimir Zhirinovsky who was being sarcastic by the way, then scaring people with genocide.

Well yes. But rulers don't need to act willingly when acting on behalf of a stronger country if they do it out of fear. Self gain is another thing. ---------- Post added at 10:16 ---------- Previous post was at 10:15 ---------- So let's say you install a NATO base. It won't protect you from Russia as much as make you a primary target.

Not save themselves from Russia, but provoke it on behalf of others.