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OFPElite on the original xbox was advertised as a military sandbox game (iifc), due to the editor and the possibility players could make their own missions/scenarios or indeed war gaming worlds. Obviously using the maps available. I think many are thinking more about the later console release, that was a different game.

It wouldn't remove the editor or mods. The editor in OFPElite was quite a nice editor, not as good as the pc version obviously, I also messed around with that two. But of the two, the xbox editor was a very good straight forward editor that most every player could use, therefore very suited to the console. I would imagine there were players that came into the pc game after their xbox experience. It had plenty of things in there to make some very good scenarios/missions as I said before. Of course this is not to be confused with the codemaster Operation Flashpoint that was released with no editor at all (iirc). With consoles getting more powerful, I can't see why the consoles today couldn't handle mods. I do think BI will look at the option..

I agree with you. BI already went down the more mainstream path with A3. But they won't take A3 to console this late (imho). But including a console release for A4, would be a logical next step, sales wise.

To be fair, OFPElite was a very good solid editor and the amount they got in there was pretty amazing. Players could make some nice little missions/scenarios in there. But I can't see BI going that route again. Although the way consoles are coming on, A4 (if there is one), well you never know.

Are you running any mods ?

Well hello there. 😊

I get that you like A2OA, it is the best of the series, A2 or A2OA + all dlc's. Of course us saying that, doesn't make it the best, everyone else will decide theirs, but for me it is the best & for you too, it seems. I would suggest you join a group perhaps, have your own server. The game isn't dead by any means or dying, certainly not for me and people I know that play the game. We all tend to be just as enthusiastic as we ever were. Lets be honest, some bugs we'd miss, like clipping through things etc. If it didn't happen we'd have to check the game we're playing.. 😉 was the right game. As for A4, don't hold your breathe for it being as good as A2, maybe A4 will top A3, we'll have to wait and see. If A4 does come out as good or better than A2, then it will bring me away from A2. But it would have to be one hell of a game, well simulator really, to do that. 😉

Might not work for him in A2 😉

I don't think there is, certainly not T-14/15. The T90 is obviously in there but can't remember seeing the MS version. I'm not well up on tanks, so would ask, what is the difference between T-90 to T-90MS ? Welcome to the forums. 🙂

Hello @greywulf58 Let me first say I'm glad your older than me, not by much it has to be said, but it's nice to have someone to call 'old geezer'.. 😉 I saw on the A2 forum a few weeks back, that you were asking about A2/steam etc. I'm not sure what the steam issue was/is with A2. You can run A2 without steam easily, I do, even though it is from the steam folder (BAT file). But that is by the by. With A3 you have to have steam, can't play it without (IIRC). A3 runs better than A2 imo, performance wise. It's better optimised I think. However, I play A2. The rig there looks o.k for most games nowadays, however I'm not so sure for A3. It will play o.k. but if you are against many ai or indeed other players, then you will be turning the settings down, imo. That said it 'will' play A3, but it won't breeze through it, so just be aware of that. Keep the VD down to around 2-3km's, should be o.k. Plus, turning some settings down, doesn't always mean better performance in many cases either, this series is odd like that, trial and error really, same with A2. Anyway, enjoy A3 when you get there. Oh, just to add, I've never been sold on SSD's. I guess I'm a little old school and like my HDD's. I can load up and run A2 from a HDD (external), but there you go. 🙂

Neat. ;)

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You've chosen the best game in the series, or those that bought it for you did. I hope you have many hours, 1000's most likely. Plus, get many of those hours in the 'editor', which is the best thing about the series, it's where dreams are made.. :)

Go on then.. ;) Happy New Year for 2019. :)

No, not much experience in A3 playing wise. But I tested a few ai mods from A2 in A3, they crossed over, but not very well, unfortunately. One mod I was testing for A3 would have been very good, but the devs discontinued it, which was a great shame really, but probably understandable. It's easier to mod a game that is more or less finished, don't have to worry too much on game updates spoiling your work. Testing different mod setups is the only way you'll get good results really. But it can take quite a while. They are there though.

A really good modded A2 ai, is way ahead of A3. Even ai mods that are publically available for A2, do a much better job than the A3 ai offer. Flanking better, rearming, dragging and carrying, calling in support, splitting groups, working together, reacting to suppression, laying down suppression etc. The only thing that A3 offers, other than graphics (and who cares about graphics, we need game-play), is better ai character movement. Although with SMK_anims you get a little closer to that in A2. :)

Great looking Tank's there. Good to know your still into A2, I never really left. Just too good to leave behind. :)

I don't think the pc will make it look or run much better than it does now. But.. we will be able to map/macro controls, because I'm not that great with the xbox controller, I'm so use to pc. I would love to play it again with better controls. Yes, I agree the day cycles and weather are spoiling it a little, but I think I forgive that, because it is an outstanding game for any platform.

Should always leave time for playing. It is playing really, mod making or mission making, but in a hobby sence. I call that playing, as do you "I had a wonderfull time playing around with Arma". If you don't leave time for actual playing of the game though, well I think you miss out a lot.

The 'Editor' is king in this series, always has been. I think every player that really plays Arma, or indeed OFP/Elite, know that. Without touching any of the campaign's I've managed to play for, well regularly, since Arma, every week for several hours per week making missions for our group/friends. I dabbled with ofp & elite on the xbox. Its the editor I found in ofp (pc) that decided me on getting my mates to play the game, which started in earnest at Arma launch. Moving from hex based wargaming really. Took me a few years to convince them that it was a very viable option/alternative to the type of gaming we had been playing for a few decades at that point. But A2 + all the dlc's remains the King of the series, just for me that is, not for everyone. Every player has their own fav game in the series and rightly so. Believe it or not, I loved the xbox (ofp-elite) version too. The editor in that was amazing for an early xbox machine, when compared to pc's around at the time. BI did an incredible job making that work so well on the xbox, big achievement.

I would probably put Red Dead Redemption 2 in this catagory. I bought a Xbox One X to play this and frankly, its incredible. The detail, world, game-play and existence within that world is very immersive and a big plus for a console game, looks amazing, feels amazing too. Maybe coming to pc in a year or two, I have heard. I would buy it for that too.

Really what it boils down too.. In 20yrs time, it will be the AI playing the game..;) Humans will watch on and think 'err' why didn't we think of that. Just a matter of time. Modded ai, certain mods anyway, are very good at doing what soldiers & the military as a whole do, which isn't necessarily human nature. But trained behaviour. Its all trained, not human nature or human behaviour in general.

Yep X4 Foundations. I will be playing that for sure, when released. Looks good.

I don't play A3 much, well not at all now. But I'm still very much into A2 + all the dlc's. The series has given me more hours of fun than I can remember. A4 (should there be one) will be where I depart from the series if they don't have decent vanilla ai, which I doubt they will. But A3 will be, to many players, what A2 still is to me, a game that has years more play left in it. That is the way I feel about A2, will still be playing in another decade probably, provided I'm still here, that is.

I loved 'Armed Assault.Info', it was a great place for mods, news and stuff. Thanks to @oldbear for having worked on and done that, and it was unfortunate it ended. Now when I go into AA.info, my 'malwarebytes' just pops up a warning, so I tend not to use it as much, I do occasionally, taking care of course, but not much. These are great loses to the series, AH being one of the only hosters now for most mods or large numbers. There are, of course, mods all over the place/internet, but even these are getting fewer. Steam has been good for A3, but I still don't use mods from steam for this series (I don't play A3). I do use steam for other games and it is convenient, but I still like the old way.. Nevermind. @Easyman.. 50kb is pretty slow, lets be honest. :( For anyone else looking, a few maybe to look at: ofpec moddb Kronzkys PMC Nexus Also there is another I got 'kju's' mods from, can't find it now. It may have closed too. I have a HDD with links on to a few others, but you'll have to wait until I use that HDD again, means digging it out of the cupboard.. ;) AH has most of the popular ones there though. Edit: Just thought, I have a few HDD's full of mods for this series, covering all, right back to ofp. Maybe in the future I'll get some on dropbox or somewhere, have to check size limits etc. Something for me to think about. Whatever happened to devheaven !!