Innomadic

And that right there is the problem...the "don't like it don't buy it" mentality...

Indeed it was only a few months ago that EA was toying with the idea of making you pay for ammo in Battlefield. And thats not a joke.

Day 1 DLC doesn't extend a games lifetime at all. Its not an incentive as its DLC, available so long as PSN/XBL/Origin servers support it. All it is is content that developers left out of the full game to increase the rrp without actually increasing the rrp. You may say its a choice, but whats the bet that the vast majority of consumers will buy it? We're spoiled by BIS who don't fall into the trap and actually do release DLC that does the job its intended to, extend the games lifetime. Indeed, this will go some way to convince me to get the game, however that does depend on whether is still have to install Origin to play MP.

You would do well to google it, the issue has got nothing to do with the space it takes up on a HDD.

Doesn't make it right.

Not that this was unexpected...but i have to say it, dick move. Make the DLC before the game is released, instead of putting it on the disk, sell for extra dosh...

What? Also i never disagreed with the sentiment, only that DICE's game is so small in comparison and their budget is huge, given EA's backing, that stuff like this should be minimal at best.

Two big differences between DICE and BIS. 1. Scope. Arma is bigger in practically every dimension than BF. 2. Studio size and cash. And while i agree with the sentiment, i just don't think the comparison is valid in this case.

I know what it is, i'm just astounded that its not supported. They've invested too heavily in it. Pull the plug now, major embarrassment on their part.

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/general-discussion-1335/471001-no-more-ofp-17.html No comment.

Can we please stop the "CoD kiddies" crap. Wat. They won't, EA are evil and want ALL of the market. This pretty much. edit: derp

Played it on console (both) because i'm not installing Origin just to play a Beta...wasn't exactly blown away, felt very run of the mill. Just another twitch shooter.

Oh yeah i totally understand that (and in some ways i don't think it would be well received on PC). But for a console shooter in the absence of my broken PC, its brilliant. If anyones got a PS3, get KZ. Its awesome.

Thats why i've converted to Killzone. Seperates the men from the boys.

Wait, you had these simply lying around? They're awesome!

Totally agree, that and after they give T10 rights to Porsche again. BF3 requires you to install Origin. If you don't want Origin, you can't play BF3.

They did update the EULA....but that doesn't change a thing, after the initial, i don't trust them one bit.

Whats the bet that everyone in Europe already has high detail maps of everything of every country already?

I thought that was obvious from the beginning, just like the E3 2005 Killzone 2 vid.

Since i actually own both consoles, i do agree, the Cell architecture is terrible for making games, which is the reason why most early games have some major issues, for example Uncharted has massive horizontal tearing issues, massive slowdown around water areas and the PS3 signature "fuzz" around moving characters and objects. Its game breaking (but its Naughty Dogs first PS3 game, and since they're a fav dev of mine, i'll soldier on). However thats not to say that if a studio, say PD (GT) or Guerrilla (Killzone), put their resources to it it can't produce fantastic looking games with minimal issues. The problem is that most studios port over from the 360 to the PS3, leading to lower quality on average for the PS3. As a whole, when you count the best games and the best features, they are pretty much equal. Not that this has any relevance to Arma 3 AI, but i think it needs to be said.

Interesting...still doesn't mean faster than light speed is possible though...unless we have to rethink that area as well in light of this...if its true, as you said.

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/general-discussion-1335/471001-no-more-ofp-10.html, by Dnote Not even an official announcement to proclaim that RR has been dumped. Instead, a simple user post that was originally a tangent to the original conversation... ...just lol

Ever since GRID they've moved away from quality simulation to arcade rubbish. Its not just Flashpoint that people have issues with.