BadMamaJama
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My recommendation for you for starters would be to get your hands on the following missions:
- Capture & Hold
- Advance & Secure
I have to agree with Tom here, if your coming from BF2. Look for HOLD "Type" games listed and with AAS in the name. They are pvp and seem to focus around team play more than other non pvp game types if that's what your looking for.
http://www.sbs.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Arma2_Advance_and_Secure
This explains the basics of AAS, which usually about half the guys in the server don't understand. But, thats to be expected being public.
- Capture & Hold
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This is an issue with any mission that involves any playable vehicle which isn't strictly limited to transport capabilities. A single tank, attack helicopter, or jet can nullify the effort of 20 infantry. Not that their existence isn't already a problem with the bickering, whining, rank farming, and teamkilling which typically occurs among allies over acquiring and using these. Some players seem perfectly okay with wasting bandwidth by camping the vehicle spawn or otherwise simply refusing to play if they can't use their favorite toy. I'd rather they grabbed a rifle and started playing the game with the rest of us, or they could just as well fuck off because we could certainly use the extra bandwidth and roster spots for more useful players.Public gameplay in general is garbage. People find ways to be insipid little dicks even in rare high quality missions on quiet little low population servers off someplace away from the Evolution/Domination cesspits.
Can I have your babies? :clap:
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ok,now im confused,when i hit the button that says status,there is a button that says drop crate,or drop boxes or something like that.it appears on the blue box,just like when airlifting a vehicle.im not using any mod as far as i can tell.unless it downloaded from steam or something without me knowing,i could swear it was a game feature,maybe someone can confirm this.im very confused.:confused:Maybe this question could be better answered in General Discussion?
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Yes, pointing out that you are behaving like a prick is a clear indicator of our favorite type of game play :rolleyes:Personally I'm getting frustrated with trying to find alternative play types in MP right now. I've managed 1 or 2 CTF games and 1 or 2 TDM games but not many options. Occasionally you find a decent round of COOP and the only HOLD mission I have found when I was on was a beta test with 3 other guys.
Pretty much just waiting on the community to come up with stuff. I'm really tired of games with impossibly difficult to use editors. BIS is on the right track with their modules and I hope they continue to improve on this idea. Some people like myself would like to throw together missions with the elements they desire without waiting for someone else to do it or spending frustrating hours pouring over documentation and learning to write scripts.
Awesome, thanks for your imput. I'm really sorry the AI are not smart enough to come here and address your concerns. Keep checking back though maybe BIS will add that to the "TA DO LIST"
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After playing in a lot of servers and talking to Admin's and players. I understand that a lot of Arma1 people are working on different versions of Capture & Hold, Capture the Flag and others. The Maps that most people seem to be enjoying are AAS "assault and secure" lumped under the HOLD classification. Uniquely different than other styles of play. Some AAS are different than others too depending who's tweeked them and the settings. It's a crap shoot depending on which one you join, they will eventually sort themselves out. Some you spawn only at Xray flag (horrible idea), some are bugged from testing beta maps. This link is very helpful describing how it works and whos running servers.
http://www.sbs.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Arma2_Advance_and_Secure
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wow, i' don't think i've seen such a retarded thread in a long time, the OP, complains about PvP maps not being PvP because they have some AI elements (CTI), a long standing member of the forums points out that CTI is still PvP since any AI are controlled by a human, he then also points out that CTF C&H are "pure" PvP and then he gets shot down because they are not the AAS maps.if you wanna rave about AAS thats great, i'm glad you found a playstyle you like, but to complain about people taking the thread off topic and they should get back on topic about AAS and how great it is?
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i've never played these AAS maps but i would imagine they should fall into the C&H map style, are the map naming conventions of old not adhered too anymore?
Have to agree Escobar, the OP was really misleading and for someone who claims to want to help the community by bringing light to a great style of play, he is particularly adversarial and just plain rude.Thanks for the free bump guys. Obviously two, Evolution or Domination fellas giving the thread some loving.
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None? Maybe you were playing different HOLD missions, but the ones that were on the servers I played definitely had most of those issues.Maybe you weren't playing Assault and Secure/HOLD. This thread is not about Team Death Match, Capture the Flag or what ever hybrid version someone has made. Look at what your complaints are.
*There are no mobile spawns in current versions of AAS yet, afaik.
*Zone sizes are more than suffiecient its the entire Island, granted the battle takes place around the AAS zones.
*You complain about TDM and CTF
*AAS you get every imaginable weapon class right from the beginning and customizalbe kits.
So, again I ask that you please stop misinforming the community.
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I didn't list the exact mission names, but I tried hold, DM, CTF and CTI/crCTI.Common issues:
- Bad respawn systems (Ignoring many bugs present with some respawn methods): Mobile spawns are bad. Spawning too far to require a vehicle every time is also bad. Which leads to:
- Zone size not suitable for number of players. Dying 2 seconds after spawning in DM is bad. Having 2 flags in CTF 50m from eachother with the spawn 10m behind the flag is bad too.
- Equipment choices often make it an even weirder experience, like having lightly armored vehicles but no light AT weapons, or having sniper rifles but no ACOGs, or just having weapon supply limited in some odd way.
All of this turns the should-be-awesome PvP experience into something that's edging unplayable.
None of this has to do with Assault and Secure/ HOLD mode of play. Please stay on topic. It would be appreciated.
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The purpose of this thread is......?Whatever, I like coop more than Pvp, i just couldnt really get into Hold,or bersek.
You should give coop a shot, let the new AI challenge you.
The purpose of the thread is to enlighten people about HOLD/AAS. Which you obviously understood, because you gave your 2 cents about it. But, I don't see how you saying I don't like it benefits the thread? AI are not more challeging, I'm sorry to say. Go find a "we are uber we really f'd up those AI" thread and support that. I am posting in this one to help the guys out there who are new to the game and looking for PVP.
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I played a few CTI games and they were fun yes. But then I ran across a HOLD server. that is all I play now.I usually play on the ATOW server or on the other i forgot the name, but it has map markers off, i love that, its silly to look at a map and know where the enemy is. It also has FFP on (force first person) which I am starting to enjoy alot as well.
Hopefully more simular pure pvp game modes come around, and hopefully more hold maps are made, and servers opened. this is a great game mode for squad vs squad.
oh what fun !
Yes, ATOW and 1Para are the only 2 to date running nice maps/veteran settings. Forgive me if I missed one and again I'm talking about purely AAS.
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I agree on the hold maps. I've been having a blast on the ATOW server. Playing defense in that heavily-wooded map with a heavy MG spraying blindly in the direction of an incoming squad (of real, thinking, plotting players) hoping to tag a few of them.I also enjoyed the hardcore version that doesn't show if you hit your target. It keeps you honest and raises the bar on the immersion factor a bit.
I loved A1, and although I second-guessed A2 at first, I'm loving it more everyday and I'm even considering joining a squad for the first time to increase the opportunities for teamwork.
I have to agree that hold is by far the best that ive played.Also ive played some really good ctf.These are purely pvp..that ive been on.Hold is the best.The dm for arma 2 is such BS.The only thing i seen in dm is you have an auto weapon and map is tiny...GAY!Now hold you get to customize your loadout and theres teamwork involved who want to play that way and then theres the loners that do well on there own.In my opinion i think hold is the best,and look forward to playing it alot.Thanks guys, Keep the comments coming. The community deserves to know about this game mode. I've heard that with A2 it is a whole new experience playing AAS/HOLD over A1. I hope it gets some recognition and takes root in the community. I've noticed that some other PVP play modes are beginning to be lumped into HOLD mode now. I join some german servers and they have their own UMPC or some other modified stuff. It is nothing like AAS. Don't discourage, keep looking for the right servers.
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AAS of SBS is pretty nice and fun. :DMore info here:
I endorse this! I have not played Arma before. I enjoy PVP and not all the other stuff. This mode of play will feed all of your needs if your craving PVP. Hang in there guys once the N. America release comes out things will get flowing I'm sure, don't get discouraged, I think it has potential to be something really cool. The game mode is called HOLD on the server browser. It is being run in Veteran mode with none of the nub assistance's on some of the servers. Read the wiki Kju posted it will help.
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I'll take a note next time I kill players in the end of a CTI map that in fact, I'm not killing players :)Can you, please, accept that some form of PvP are not exactly like what you want them to be, and still be a player facing a player? I'm not dissing pure-PvP and C&H, I love them. Show some respect yourself.
That said, your question/concern/demand is what, exactly?
PVP with AI is co-op, it has AI in it. At the end of your game where you "PVP" you still have AI in your squad please stop trying to redefine something. Please don't call TDM or Hold Pure PVP and call what your doing "PVP lite."
I go back to my original post since you feel I have demands, questions and concerns. Just call a spade a spade. But, I mostly came here to bring light to a game mode that is awesome for PVP, no AI.
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So your point is?The only full PvP is going to be deathmatch (and team DM). Coop is quite obviously the Human team against CPUs. And CTI is an objective-based game mode (similar to BF's Comquest) that is human squad leaders with AI squaddies, versus humans SLs with AI squaddies.
Soon however, you're going to see lots and lots more missions pop up as people start making them.
Oh, and what is hold? I've never seen it on the server list.
You are obviously one of the people I was talking about. You're not helping. I don't need a explanation of what each is, as your definitions are inaccurate. I've played TDM. It wasn't that fun. I've been playing HOLD matches and they've been awesome. Taking sometimes 30 minutes to assault a single checkpoint. Everyone who's playing is loving it. Some playing on Vetren level with no enemy icons on maps or no third person view. And, the end game CTI is not PVP.
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I'm completely new to BI games. I love team work first off, strategic minded when it comes to FPS'ers. I've been playing for a few days and notice a lot of people are misrepresenting game types for what they are. In Multiplay list the only ones that show up so far are Unknown, Coop, CTI, Hold. Of those 4 the only one that is actuall PVP is HOLD
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in ARMA 2 & OA - MULTIPLAYER
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Nice website. I see only 2 servers actually populated atm. Is the AAS community thriving? I used to play when A2 first came out, stepped away from the game. Thinking about buying OA/BAF, but it would only be for AAS. Before when I played there was only 1 server usually up. Is this the current situation with the game?