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Ha too true, sometimes I see people answer questions by posting a line of script but those of us new to it have no idea what it means or what to do with it hehe. I even found that when Isaved my mission in the editor I then found 4 files in 3 different places and it took some experimenting to find which ones I needed to use. Also took me time to find out making my own init file wasn't working because it was saving it as .init.txt so I just copied an init file from another .pbo and pasted the script over it in the folder I needed it in.

So they are both wrong

Honestly, right now, no. People haven't had time to put out that many good pvp missions yet. I'd give it about a month if that is all you are interested in.

LOL indeed. I'm pretty much finished with this one except for issues caused by brainless AI that I cannot do anything about and trying to package the PBO with Overview and Init file (doesn't want to cooperate). It's not a pro job but gives me a jumping point to improve on and I intend to expand it to a MP mission later and still working on plans for a large scale project which the concept work is already near completion for. Being a combat veteran gives you no lack of scenarios to base missions off of :p Oh, and it's not a whine if it's the truth in regard to the shortcomings. Personally, when I get fed up I log off and chop down some trees (take that hippies).

Hell I've seen people receive combat awards that weren't within miles of combat. It's an insult.

Actually no, the US government does not dictate what the media reports, the shame of it is, they used to report the truth. You are being intentionally obtuse regarding the WMDs, and Saddam and the greater concern for them falling into the hands of terrorists. Mentioning that he had missiles that could reach Israel is not the same as thinking he would attack them. He showed in the past his willingness to use WMDs in his own country, at the time he was working to develop missiles with even greater range, the UN was screaming for them to be destroyed. Who was he going to use them on? Who can guess? Did you want to find out? Why do you guy keep posting links to things that are largely irrelevant to the conversation? What does this have to do with you calling yourself a pacifist? How is it I keep going back to the media when I haven't posted anything from them? This started when you began posting numbers of civilians killed as a result of the Iraq war, a number that was quite misleading and even a little dishonest and you continued that dishonesty when bringing up Vietnam.

Few times inspectors went over there? Oy vey. Let me just say this, WMD pale compared to the knowledge that countries like France were still selling things to Iraq, weapons. Nothing like watching your friends blown to bits by weapons sold to your enemies by your allies AFTER sanctions were in place. But then, maybe they were just stolen :rolleyes: Saddam attack Israel? WHo the hell ever mentioned that? ---------- Post added at 02:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:21 AM ---------- Everything went to Syria. Yea wiki is great, I was looking for some data on the .50 BMG a few months ago and there was a nice article there about 1337 pwnzers getting headshots with the .50 killing all the noobs. Gotta love the internet.

LOL don't even care about polish. You are mistaking the fact that I am saying that it isn't right to condemn people who are upset that they have been defrauded. You (well not necessarily you)are excusing poor business practice because you like what the product will be when it is working as it should have when it was sold. When you offer a product to someone and then fail, upon receipt of payment to provide that product, that's called fraud. Don't be so hard on people that are upset about it. Maybe I'm just old fashioned in believing that people and businesses should be expected to deal honestly. It is very possible that these problems are due to the publishers too so I don't give BIS 100% of the blame but this is where people discuss the game, the developers will always bear the weight of responsibility in the eyes of the end user because it is their name that people take note of. I see a multitude of people in this forum. 1. You have the Dragon Rising (or other twitch fest games) fans that come in and troll away because they want their game to be more popular and because they have no life. 2. You have those that can barely turn a computer on much less figure this game out. 3. You have those that are outright dunces that refuse to read the forums where they can learn that either they just need to use different drivers or that their computer is just outright trash. 4. You have the moderates like myself that, well, we can play the game in its current state and are willing to bash a troll here and there but at the same time understand that it shouldn't be this way in the first place. (I think you are here as well, you just gotta step outside of things) 5. You have the long time community members that have invested a lot of time and effort here whether it be mods, missions or simply helping others, that tend to get up in arms about anything they perceive as an insult to the game/developers/themselves whether it is intended that way or not. 6. You have the all out fanbois. These people you cannot reason with and their ultimate goal in life is to birth Marek's love child. 7. and then the moderators. ---------- Post added at 09:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:57 PM ---------- Xeno HAS done a great job nobody implied that he didn't except for him because he chose to take exception to my comment. ---------- Post added at 10:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:59 PM ---------- LOL that is what the box should say :D I don't think the game needs more pre-made missions or anything like that, they just need to ensure that what they DO provide, works. I have to agree too, leaving out things for the multiplayer which is probably 95% of the community is holding the game back. They made a lot of improvements with the modules but it still requires scripting knowledge or at the minimum cut&paste&tweak in order to produce something that people actually want to play.

I'm actually working on it right now, my first release will be a SP map simply because it takes time and experience to learn the editor and it doesnt help that not everything works properly, including some of the commands and scripting that BIS have provided already. I'm almost finished with it though and I have a big project in the pipeline waiting to be implemented once I discover everything I need to know to make it work. BTW my comment about ported missions was in regard to mission design, not the porting process which still, is just a matter of replacing the right items and transferring locations, hardly starting from scratch. So thanks for your whining too.

WHy would I bother with Wikipedia? It is rare that you find anything accurate there but that doesn't matter. Did I say you were wrong that Saddam gassed the Kurds? No. You can point to the Gulf of Tonkin incident as if that is the definitive moment. If you isolate any one event then you are being intentionally ignorant of the bigger picture and the many other events that occurred in order to bring things about.Do we have to go into specifics? Want to talk about WMDs and how we knew they were there and how we know where they went? Before I'll discuss any of that with you you will have to explain to me how the UN inspectors had so much listed WMDs that Saddam had for all those years since the first Gulf War and how they suddenly all disappeared prior to the US invasion, and explain where all of that brand new manufacturing equipment came from that was found buried in the desert (things not accounted for by UN inspectors). Then also explain to me how now that the British, Americans, Canadians and Australians are all occupying the country they are still able to smuggle in all sorts of weapons into the country but people think it is a stretch that an insane dictator with full control over his country and borders could possibly transport such things in and out of the country at a time when we weren't even looking that close? ---------- Post added at 09:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:03 PM ---------- I Think your brain is frost bitten---------- Post added at 09:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:07 PM ---------- Not true at all. I would say it is in the tiniest minority of attacks caused by this against ANY country.---------- Post added at 09:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:08 PM ---------- The UN is inconsequential and outright useless. Nobody lied to them either. Allow others to reconstruct Iraq? Why would they want to do that? Why would they want to assist in the reconstruction? They wanted oil, oil for nothing. It was a ploy for power. The Coalition did what had to be done and began to rebuild and then they want to step in as if they are heroes? I think not. ---------- Post added at 09:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 PM ---------- Because I'm bored and cannot resist a good argument :P

Well, I get a lot of my facts by having been to places and in situations being discussed as well as paying attention to the world around me rather than sitting with my head in a hole taking spoon fed info from liberal or conservative lunatics. I'm leading off from what he is saying and the logical conclusion which can be reached following his lead.

yea the issue with paa is all mine, not an issue with the game.

That's called realism, friendly fire happens. If it happens constantly, the player is either blind or he is lying.

See. there is no point arguing with you. For someone who calls himself enlightened, your grasp of the 'facts' is frighteningly naive and uninformed or perhaps even wearing a politically motivated blindfold.---------- Post added at 12:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 PM ---------- That video is a political hack job. Why do they hate us? Simply because we exist. Certainly we know there have been many things that governments do in secrecy that have caused conflict but that video is based upon a false pretext, implying that terrorist attacks come as a result of our government's interference in world affairs.

I agree

Score keeping tends to attract idiots.

I see many areas on the map that are suitable for this.

No you can't compare it to a car, but in terms of providing a customer what they think they are paying for, the analogy stands. ---------- Post added at 11:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 AM ---------- I'll have to check this out a bit more, so far my experience on that server has been less than promising despite the fact it was well Administrated.---------- Post added at 11:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:28 AM ---------- Because BIS has consistently failed to provide a finished product to their customers despite it being advertised and sold as such, doesn't excuse that behavior in its continuance. So calling a person spoiled for expecting to receive what they are being told they are paying for is just stupid, it's how the world actually operates. I don't see it as a matter of liking the product overall, we all at some point have to try something to see if we like it or not, it is a matter of the product working as promised. I'll use the car analogy again. It's like buying a Ferrari except it only drives in reverse and having someone say, "Quit complaining, they will eventually fix it. In the mean time, I'm loving the hell out of driving backward and it looks and sounds awesome." I'll be honest, this is becoming a trend in the gaming industry and before long we will be paying years in advance for sub par gaming experiences. Simply because as gamers we tolerate it and with these kinds of statements even support it. This has pretty much guaranteed I will never purchase a new game again, not from BIS or anyone else, if I do purchase them it will be from the bargain bin. ---------- Post added at 11:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:42 AM ---------- Almost forgot, in regard to the Coop servers, it is simply because they have imported missions from ArmA 1, so there isn't really a lot of work that went into it. The server lists are inundated with Domi and Evo maps, all of them poorly designed despite incorporating some handy scripts. We are seeing a few more PvP servers cropping up and I hope it continues to grow, simply for variety's sake. Coop can be loads of fun and I enjoy it but it also pales in comparison with competing against actual people that are unpredictable and assuming the mission is designed properly, cannot be exploited.

I think it is useful to use the civilian vehicle module also to prevent being stranded at objectives. No transport available? Everyone pile in a civilian truck and roll out. ---------- Post added at 11:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 AM ---------- @Galzohar I think it is important to remember that the majority of combat is not vehicle centric and the goal is to prevent the user made mission from becoming so. Vehicles are made for support and any mission design that enforces that aspect takes a great step toward realism and just plain good game play.

That is a question for any war, past or present, what is the reason behind them sending troops, it is not just a modern dilemma, or are you thinking if we went to Darfur that it would be a politically or financially motivated decision?---------- Post added at 11:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:02 AM ---------- LOL that's a good one :p

Babies being born deformed have nothing to do with our DU I mean would it be a stretch to assume it is from the chemical weapons that Saddam used on his own people? What does Vietnam have to do with Iraq? Or friendly fire incidents have to do with civilian deaths? Nothing. Your comments about Powell lying just show you have a bias based on media representation and not facts, so to further discuss it with you is a moot point as you have made up your mind already.

Look at it this way, BIS is fortunate to have people willing to buy their product when they know it will be below industry standards and barely working when they purchase it. You won't find many people shopping for a car willing to do that. Now me personally, I made the purchase with the knowledge that the game was broken but fully expecting it to be fixed upon its full release or shortly thereafter as many were led to believe by assurances in the forums. Of course it was patched, but still broken. Now I don't know anybody that purchases a product because they plan to enjoy it a few years after their purchase when they decide to open the package. You wouldn't wait 3 years for the plumber or the electrician or the mechanic, etc., etc. and most especially not when they were just there and failed to do the job right the first time round. So to tell someone that has purchased the game to have patience is flat out wrong unless you are referring only to community made content. Now, I've said before that I see BIS has a long record of supporting and improving their games and for that reason alone, I'm still hanging on, but some people will not be that way and they are fully entitled to their outrage. Imagine going to the Cinema to see the latest new release that has been hyped for months and then you purchase your ticket and they say go home and we will call you when it's out of production. If you got your money's worth then you would have no problem if you were never able to play it again? Compare it to going for a concert and they cancel the show because they didn't have the correct color jellybeans back stage. ---------- Post added at 01:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:37 AM ---------- You may not agree with it, but that's the reality, there are very few pvp servers online and playing something is better than playing nothing while you learn to make your own missions.

Just don't put your email into the info slots on the xml file @victor yes they show up I'm having a hard time with the paa files but jpeg works fine

*facepalm*

What would be the point? The map isn't really large enough to get up to that speed before you've crossed it.