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"How might you have figured it out then" The answer to that question is what I am trying to figure out! "Just because the author was on something that was like an LSD trip gone wrong does not mean that there is any special significance to it." Have you ever even done LSD, or even shrooms or any kind of hallucinogenic? Â When reading Revelations, be it the King James version or the actual hebrew texts, we have to realize that if in fact these people were shown something, they would explain as best they could with their knowledge. Â How would one describe Helicopters attacking infantry in the time of revelations? Â How would one describe a meteor shower...or an LGB falling from the sky? btw, there is no such thing as "an LSD trip gone wrong".

No man will ever know because men are too stupid to pay attention to what is going on around them, what has gone on around them and what will go on around them in the future. As revelations and all the interpretations have shown, you can relate past events with what is in the book and it is all happening all over again, history is repeating itself and everyone is standing around dismissing that it is happening because locusts arent flying everywhere and the stars havent fallen from the sky...but in fact they have and ARE. Oh well. Oh freaking well.

"I put as much faith in the bible's ability to predict the future as I do in the muppet show being able to do that, and that is the basis of my dismissal of your theory." Good, lets leave it at that. My purpose of this thread was not to prove or disprove religion, the bible, etc, it was simply to see what in revelations could be associted with modern times, THAT IS IT, be the associations fact OR fiction, I DO NOT CARE, I am simply curious of what others could come up with. Is that such a hard concept to grasp? Placebo, could you jsut lock this thread and let it die, since it apparently already has due to the fact that people can not comprehend the words that they claim to have read and would rather put in their .02 about how they feel about religion vs athiesm, which this thread had NOTHING to do with from the begining. My thread got 9/11'ed, oh well.

Son of a..... THIS IS NOT AN " atheism vs. religion debate" and your $.02 is NOT welcome unless it has to do with the threads subject. placebo, could you remove that comment for the sake of this thread? I really dont want to see it locked because of a zealot war.

but....but....the space pig is my hero...

OK STOP NOW. STOP WITH THE WHOLE RELIGIOUS ZEALOT VS ATHIEST ZEALOT CRAP. JUST FREAKING STOP.

What part of NOTHING GETS PAST THE SPACE PIG! can you not seem to comprehend?!?!?!?

What if it gets past the space pig? NOTHING GETS PAST THE SPACE PIG!

Call me a Jedi and ill leave it at that  You sexy Jedi, you. Can I take you home and do nasty things to you?

lol @ the comic, Tovarish

Lies. Â All that is needed is for 1 person to be miraculously healed in a controlled, verifiable setting, and that has never, ever happened. So if a person has been deaf his whole life. Goes to a meeting, is healed and can hear perfectly well afterwards it's, according to you nonsense? I survived ingesting well over a cup of antifreeze when I was 19, without having my stomahc pumped. I think thats pretty damn miraculous!

Al Queda, easily. The bow represent flying projectiles, such as airplanes. They started their world tour by attacking USA and went on waging war on the western world. USA of cousrse. "Was given" refers to Bushs belief that it his his god given right to start wars. He took the peace from the earth when he started the Iraq war. Capitalism OBVIOUSLY. Pay as low as possible. Fixation with materialistic items. China of course. It holds about 1/4 of the world population. Their 'cultural revolution' killed caused a famine that killed roughly 30 million people. They're no strangers to weapons and war. And "wild animals" refers to the dragon which is the traditional Chinese symbol. Now let's start a war over this and continue the good human  tradition of irrational religious hysteria. This is what I am looking for here....opposing views that make sense.... Al Queda, easily. The bow represent flying projectiles, such as airplanes. They started their world tour by attacking USA and went on waging war on the western world. The arrow, I think, would represent the actual projectiles. Also, Al Queda, last time I check, isnt wearing a crown of victory. USA of cousrse. "Was given" refers to Bushs belief that it his his god given right to start wars. He took the peace from the earth when he started the Iraq war. Bush didnt actually proclaim that "God" has given permission to kill, unlike Al Queda. Also, lets not forget that the weapon carried, the machaira, was that of sacrifice. Capitalism OBVIOUSLY. Pay as low as possible. Fixation with materialistic items. I can see that but Capitalism doesnt cause famine like communism has. Well, in its way it has, I guess, but that is a COMPLETELY different discussion. China of course. It holds about 1/4 of the world population. Their 'cultural revolution' killed caused a famine that killed roughly 30 million people. They're no strangers to weapons and war. And "wild animals" refers to the dragon which is the traditional Chinese symbol. Good point. I am going to look further into this. The 1/4 of the worlds population is a good factor but who is to say that the Baath party, when you actually get into the dirty global politics of it all, didnt have 1/4 of the world under their power? Now let's start a war over this and continue the good human tradition of irrational religious hysteria. That is exactly what I dont want to happen.

wow, you registered just to insult me. I feel special!

If you think that your interpretation of that part of the Revelations is correct, why not try to interpret the rest and come out with a plan to avoid the apocalypse? Well...ya, thats the point, sort of. When they said repent, I didn't know what they meant. Exactly. Â Maybe "repenting" isnt so much asking forgiveness of our "sins" as it is "realizing" our "mistakes" and making sure they stop happening.

but a believer of what? what is it that I am trying to explain logically? Im trying also, to be literal in the current world.

But who is to say that art can not be real, that art can not become science fact? Science fiction is proof that art and imagination can become reality. From Leonardo Da vinci to Jules Vern to even Star Trek, the concepts came true. Who is to say that science fiction can not also predict what will happen in the science world. Around the World in 80 Days is a great example of this. Now, why shouldnt religion be any different than science fiction when it could in fact BE sicence FACT.

I dont have an agenda, really. All I am doing, is asking myself this: Could the Four Horsmen be REAL people and not just a form of symbolism, and if so, who could they be? These people would have to be powerful people in their own way. All four of the listed people are very powerful people on a global scale. I wonder if Putin could be placed alongside Jong, being as both countries are...struggling. All creative speculation for now, though but...what if. How would we handle that and what does it mean? Â How could we intepret what we have to prepare for what it is to come, seeing as this could in fact be The Revelation, The Apocalypse but the revelation of what? Â What do we have to prepare for? I dont think it hurts or is a waste to think like this and have these kinds of discussions. Even if one could see it as being overly ridiculous, it could potentionlly be entertaining at least. I admidt, though, that I lean more toward "What if" Obviously there is still much room for interpretation, but in my opinion at least, it should be taken much more literally than most people do. ~Big Dookie

Great! BAS' Navy Seals addon will soon be out! lol I dont know if seals like to be opened though, seems liek it would get in the way of finishing the mission

If I want to post about something then I need to find a thread that already deals with that? Hey, i think Ill say something about cars GO TO THE CAR THREAD Hey, I think Ill ask a question about computers GO TO THE COMPUTER THREAD I guess having a thread on a specific subject isnt allowed. oh well.

As some of you might know, a dummy warhead was found in Alaska back in March that was shot from North Korea. Apparently, they have not only the technology but the ability to hit us with missles. My question, is what do you think would happen if North Korea launched a missle with a nuclear payload at one of the port cities, say my home town of San Diego or Seattle but for whatever reason, be it intentional or not, the nuke did not go off. What do you think would happen?

Ya know, this is a very good question. I might jsut have to go spend the $$$ to find out sometime...

See, people, this is what I am talking about. It is VERY possible to play without crosshairs and IMO, adds that much more immersiveness and that much more need to think and not twitch as you would in CS.

Why, for the "persons whom do not play OFP to its fullest challenges" of course!