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Considering the amount of explosive it takes to get that effect, they're either in the river or in orbit.

First thing I did was open the editor, strap on a Hokum, and fly under the bridge On my system (800mhz Duron, 288meg, TNT2 64M) cranking some of those settings up where they belong (maximum) made it unplayable, but with more juggling, it achieved better graphic quality than OFP. Experiment. I'm more than happy. Again, on my system, it revealed the muzzle flash on most of the unofficial addons I have installed, even though T&l is not enabled, making them all but useless, Adios to some fine work by respected modders  But the quality gained gives me hope for the future. Bite the bullet; This addon is a must! Edit: clarifying a point

First thing I did was open the editor, strap on a Hokum, and fly under the bridge On my system (800mhz Duron, 288meg, TNT2 64M) cranking some of those settings up where they belong (maximum) made it unplayable, but with more juggling, it achieved better graphic quality than OFP. Experiment. I'm more than happy. Again, on my system, it revealed the muzzle flash on most of the unofficial addons I have installed, even though T&l is not enabled, making them all but useless, Adios to some fine work by respected modders  But the quality gained gives me hope for the future. Bite the bullet; This addon is a must! Edit: clarifying a point

I'll tell you tomorrow God! Would it were day! (That's Shakespeare, that is. Though I'm not quoting in context, you understand, because that's what the Dauphin was saying all night before Agincourt and then went on to get kicked out the window. I hope for a bit more success with OFPR)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (walker @ June 27 2002,01:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Spam? What ever are you talking about? Trotters Independent Trading Co. does a very nice line in weapon accessories I will have you know. Look out for their genuine fake fur trimmed all vinyl AK47 Stock covers available available in a range of bright modern fluorescent battle field colors. The Spam is ex army bully beef tin style Spam that our MOD contact got for us special from Caterick via a captured Argentine fishing trawler. Its the genuine real deal War Booty I will have you know. None of your foreign rubbish here people. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just want a 1967 Shelby GT500 Mustang!!!! <span id='postcolor'> No mate you want one of our genuine Trotters Independent Trading Co. Robin Reliant stretch Limos  <span id='postcolor'> Yes, but the bloody Argies nicked all the keys! (joke of the British proletariat)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (walker @ June 27 2002,01:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Spam? What ever are you talking about? Trotters Independent Trading Co. does a very nice line in weapon accessories I will have you know. Look out for their genuine fake fur trimmed all vinyl AK47 Stock covers available available in a range of bright modern fluorescent battle field colors. The Spam is ex army bully beef tin style Spam that our MOD contact got for us special from Caterick via a captured Argentine fishing trawler. Its the genuine real deal War Booty I will have you know. None of your foreign rubbish here people. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just want a 1967 Shelby GT500 Mustang!!!! <span id='postcolor'> No mate you want one of our genuine Trotters Independent Trading Co. Robin Reliant stretch Limos  <span id='postcolor'> Yes, but the bloody Argies nicked all the keys! (joke of the British proletariat)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (walker @ June 27 2002,01:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Spam? What ever are you talking about? Trotters Independent Trading Co. does a very nice line in weapon accessories I will have you know. Look out for their genuine fake fur trimmed all vinyl AK47 Stock covers available available in a range of bright modern fluorescent battle field colors. The Spam is ex army bully beef tin style Spam that our MOD contact got for us special from Caterick via a captured Argentine fishing trawler. Its the genuine real deal War Booty I will have you know. None of your foreign rubbish here people. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just want a 1967 Shelby GT500 Mustang!!!! <span id='postcolor'> No mate you want one of our genuine Trotters Independent Trading Co. Robin Reliant stretch Limos  <span id='postcolor'> Yes, but the bloody Argies nicked all the keys! (joke of the British proletariat)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (walker @ June 27 2002,01:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Spam? What ever are you talking about? Trotters Independent Trading Co. does a very nice line in weapon accessories I will have you know. Look out for their genuine fake fur trimmed all vinyl AK47 Stock covers available available in a range of bright modern fluorescent battle field colors. The Spam is ex army bully beef tin style Spam that our MOD contact got for us special from Caterick via a captured Argentine fishing trawler. Its the genuine real deal War Booty I will have you know. None of your foreign rubbish here people. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just want a 1967 Shelby GT500 Mustang!!!! <span id='postcolor'> No mate you want one of our genuine Trotters Independent Trading Co. Robin Reliant stretch Limos  <span id='postcolor'> Yes, but the bloody Argies nicked all the keys! (joke of the British proletariat)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ June 27 2002,02:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They'll never replace Angelina in my eyes  /Me bows down Kamila you are so yummy  <span id='postcolor'> Truely, the face of an angel. Unfortunately, BIS saw fit to put her at the top of the body of a Black Watch Higlander. Now Angelina/Kamila' face where it belongs..... . . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. What was the question?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ June 27 2002,02:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They'll never replace Angelina in my eyes  /Me bows down Kamila you are so yummy  <span id='postcolor'> Truely, the face of an angel. Unfortunately, BIS saw fit to put her at the top of the body of a Black Watch Higlander. Now Angelina/Kamila' face where it belongs..... . . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. What was the question?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ June 27 2002,02:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They'll never replace Angelina in my eyes  /Me bows down Kamila you are so yummy  <span id='postcolor'> Truely, the face of an angel. Unfortunately, BIS saw fit to put her at the top of the body of a Black Watch Higlander. Now Angelina/Kamila' face where it belongs..... . . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. What was the question?

Map... Map.. Map? What map? Check out the fox!! And about time too!

Map... Map.. Map? What map? Check out the fox!! And about time too!

Map... Map.. Map? What map? Check out the fox!! And about time too!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MIG-29 @ June 26 2002,20:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes and no...yes it would be cool, but if I remember correctly after a few hundred feet in OFP you go into the clouds and you can't see a damn thing. Â So I don't think the gun turrets would help too much there. Â Â Maybe those bombers used in Dolittle's low level raid on Japan might be doable in OFP, but not high level carpet bombing unless it was the AI doing the bombing...but you'd never see the bombers. Â <span id='postcolor'> I think your talking about those modified B-24 liberators , but you were right about carpet bombing at a high altitude being a pain in the ass, but a B-24 would be cool, except that it doesnt have many turrets, oh well beggers cant be choosers <span id='postcolor'> The Doolitle Raider's aircraft were B-25 Mitchells. B-24s were America's other heavy bomber. There were actually more Liberators built than B-17s.

:raisesbeerinsalute: FYI, Prof. Wizard; try the A10 in Ash's Realism Pack; not only does the avenger have a more realistic sound, the damage model appears to be meaner, too.

Okay. But the engine deck should do it every time. Sorted. Now, world peace...

True, getting the rounds to follow 1 on 1 would be all but impossible. but even if only 25 percent of thise rounds hit the target, thats still 30 very lethal projectiles. Say 5 of the leading rounds in the burst hit ERA; what do you think of the chances of those rounds clearing sufficient area of the surface for the other 25 to do their thing?

"Assuming the use of Semtex for the interlayer, I found that the configuration was most likely a 15 mm plate up front, backed by 35 mm of explosive, and then a 20 mm plate. This assymetrical configuration had improved effectiveness because the APFSDS rod could still 'catch' the retreating rear plate while the front plate would retain a charateristic high velocity. This is completely opposite to the model that the US Army used in the late 1980s to discribe 'heavy' ERA. In their model, the front plate was on the order of 60 mm thick and the rear a standard 5 mm plate. They thought that the thick plate simply moved up into the path of the incoming long rod and forced it to make a 'slot' (thickness x height) rather than a hole (thickness). This is bogus; the front plate would tamp the explosive and would be barely set in motion. Anyway, back to the point. Without getting into the actual math, after a couple of analyses, we arrived at our conclusion as to what defeat mechanisms were being imployed. These conclusions have not yet been conclusively proved and we hope to do that soon. We assumed that the massive areal density of the long rod perforated the thin plates with relative ease. Actual ablatic penetrator mass loss was set at about 2%. What we found was that we had these two plates, each individually with about 60% the momentum of the long rod penetrator, were moving oppositely up/down to each other, and that the path of the penetrator was such that it was moving between them. The forces exerted on the penetrator are apparently very large, so large in fact that they were in the region of plastic failure for most (read: all) metals. Essentially, when the penetrator touches the rear plate, the front plate guillotines off the first 5 - 6 cm of the rod. For a round such as the 120 mm M829A1 this represents a loss of about 8% of the total mass. More importantly, the nose is blunted. You would not believe how important that sharp point on the penetrator is. The difference in penetration between an equivalent hyper-sonic spike tipped penetrator and a blunt nose one is at least 20% (to a maximum of around 30%). This is mainly because a blunt nose is very inefficient in the initial phase of penetration before the ablatic shear phase can begin. The penetrator has to actually sharpen itself to the optimum Von Karam plastic wave theory shape for penetration of the target material before it can begin radially displacing the target material. This resolves itself in the form of a lot of wasted work and thus penetrator mass. The blunted penetrator also suffers structural damage and more mass loss as a shock wave travels down its length and blows spall off the tail. The main secondary effect of Kontakt-5 EDZ against APFSDS rounds is yaw induced by the front plate before contact with the rear plate is established. The total is about two to three degrees of yaw, which suddenly becomes a lot more in a denser material such as steel. Reduction in penetration due to a 2° yaw is about 6% and it grows exponentially worse from there, and on the 67° slope of the front glacis of the T-64/72/80/90, this is increased to about 15%. Total loss in penetration amounts to about 2% + 8% + 22% + 6% = 38%, or in other words the penetrator is now only capable of penetrating 62% its original potential. Conversely we could say that the base armour is increased by the factor of the reciprocal of 62%, which is - surprise! - 161%. " That's an intact cell Vs. a sabot round. Fair enough. but with the GAU-8,  the tank is showered with penetrators. the first rounds to  hit would detonate the explosive component, a second would destroy the remaining armoured cell, the third an subsequent would be hitting the tank's own armour. But that wouldn't be necessary; is the rear deck covered with ERA? ripping up the engine would be more than enough to get the crew walking. Edit: just adding more details

Rate of fire is 4000 rounds per minute. The longest burst that can be fired is 1.5 seconds; The recoil of the GAU-8 is actually higher than the engine thrust. any more than 120 rounds in the air, and the aircraft isn't. Even so, that is a HELL of a lot of heavy metal. Even an advanced ERA pack would add no more than millimetres to the top armour. Make a nice light show when it cooked off, though.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (InqWiper @ June 26 2002,00:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Someone said that the A10 was built around the gun. It says here that its a joke(big surprice). If you look here you will se that the armour penetration at 500 meters is 69mm and at 1000 meters its 38mm. It says here that the gun could take out heavy tanks. But that was in early 1970s so they probably arent very "heavy" compared to modern tanks. Here you can find pictures of tanks getting shot by the Avenger. They dont really look like modern MBTs..but looks like one tank gets the whole turret penetrated in one side and out the other.<span id='postcolor'> Well spotted. The side armour is even stronger than the roof, but that is a good illustration of a what DU round launched from a GAU-8 will do to a tank. Not waving a U.S. Flag, just accepting the laws of physics. My dad rode tanks in WW2 (showing my age ) and from his description, if something like an Avenger hit that Vehicle ANYWHERE, the crew would be getting out, if they were concious or alive.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S.F.F.R @ June 22 2002,15:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Facts ? Screens ? GAU-8/A armor penetration , DU ammo - 69mm at 500 meters 38mm at 1000 meters<span id='postcolor'> And what is the roof and rear deck armour of a T80? It will be nothing like the thickness of the frontal armour. I would be very surprised if it's more than 38mm.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Darkhawk @ June 23 2002,04:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sweet it would also be cool to see all of them:<span id='postcolor'> Interesting scenario: The Invasion of Tracey Island...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (peeps @ June 22 2002,23:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">also, now i have your attention! where do you weapon modelling folk get the plans for your guns that you use as your background? i've looked all over and i can't find any<span id='postcolor'> In my case, Anywhere I can. Without knowing specifics, all I can tell you is keep looking.

:embarrasmentmode: Evis, you were right first time with the tail rotor, I've been checking. Every bloody mark before the N built in the USA had the rotor on the left, then one day some designer says: "Hey, let's switch the tail rotor over to the right side while Wardog ain't looking, that way he can make a real prick of himself insisting it's on the left side for US-built hueys!" I hate being predictable. Nice work on the skin, BTW.