USSoldier11B

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i want this  <span id='postcolor'> LOL Does she come with ammo?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nah, slap on some Kontakt-5 ERA and you have a stronger armour then the M1A2's. <span id='postcolor'> Problem is no one that still uses the T-72 can afford ERA.

how do you do that Aculaud?

If you like the Cessna, dowm load Gimbal's planes addon. You get 4 modified aircraft. 2 East, 1 AA load out, 1 AT loadout. 2 Resistance, 1 AA loadout, 1 AT loadout.

Yeah, no kidding Aculaud, One 7.62 round center mass will put a man down for sure, even with level IIIA body armor.

What about the improved M1A2? The M1A2 program provides the Abrams tank with improvements in lethality, survivability and fightability required to defeat advanced threats. The M1A2 includes a Commander's Independent Thermal Viewer, and Improved Weapon Station, position navigation equipment, and a distributed data and power architecture, embedded diagnostic system, and improved fire control system. A radio interface unit allows the rapid transfer of digital situational data and overlays to compatible systems anywhere on the battlefield. International sales of the Abrams tank are strong. Egypt has purchased 555 M1A1 kits. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia purchased and fielded 315 M1A2 Abrams tanks in the Royal Saudi Land Forces. The Government of Kuwait purchased and fielded 218 M1A2 Abrams tanks in the Kuwaiti Land Forces. All of these nations are considering additional orders. Currently General Dynamics is engaged in competitions for the sale of M1A2 Abrams to Greece, Turkey and Qatar. Production of new Abrams tanks for the U. S. Army is complete. In lieu of new production the Army has a requirement to upgrade over 1,150 early model M1 tanks to the M1A2 configuration. A multi-year procurement for 600 M1A2 upgrades, awarded in July 1996, is in its fourth year of deliveries. Further M1A2 improvements, called the Systems Enhancement Package (SEP), are underway. These enhance the M1A2s digital command and control capabilities, and add a second generation forward looking infrared system to the gunner and commander thermal sights. An under armor auxiliary power unit, new computer mass memory unit, color maps and displays are included in the enhancement package. A follow-on multi-year contract to deliver an additional 307 M1A2 Abrams upgrade tanks with the System Enhancement Package (SEP) was awarded in March 2001. Contract funding will be awarded in three yearly increments with a period of performance from August 2001 through December 2004. -Courtesy of General Dynamics Land Systems- Plus the GDLS has already began a project to replace the Abrams line. Fact is, the U.S. has a bigger defense budget, and will continue to produce MBT's with better survivability and more lethality, while Russia can't even afford to dry clean it's officer's uniforms.

Sorry, Tex I was cranky that day. No LT's in my unit. Lowest ranking officer is a Captain. (Detatchment commander) SF unit are set up a little differently than conventional units.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OOh, hope Avon doesn't see that!<span id='postcolor'> Avon is my kind of woman. Too bad she is married. and didn't I say no offense? Snake my AOL identity is the same as my forum identity.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The USMC- of the five major tactical inovations of the 20th century groud war, panzerblitz, airborne insertion,<span id='postcolor'> The USMC does not, I repeat, does not have any conventional airborne units. The only units in the Marine Corps that uses parachutes is Force Recon and the Marine equivalent of Rangers (forget what they are called) Every Marine I know whines about how thier gear sucks and how underfunded they are. US Special Forces are the best equipped most trained force in the U.S. Takes approx 1 1/2 years to complete all of the training. I have to say that the British 22nd SAS is the priemer CT unit in the world though.

TOW stands for Tube Launched Optically Tracked Wire Guided Missle. When you launch a TOW you have to track the target with the optical device all the way to target contact. The newer Javalin system is Fire and Forget.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well as of 1999, and it is lower now, the US had 5.7 homicides / 100,000 peeps <span id='postcolor'> Uh, yeah what is the population of your country? More people means more criminals. Also take into account that we have more urbanized areas (inner city slums) than you do, hence more crime. Most of these crimes are commited with weapons that were obtained illegally. (Like Columbine) In the town I grew up in almost everyone owned guns. # of homicides in a 20 year period = 0.

If a woman can make it through Marine boot (no offense ladies) so can you. Army basic is less intense and shorter. Personally, I like my unit because I get to do cool shit, and still be a civilian and make more money. Where do you live? I can give you a list of options for your area if you are interested in a National Guard unit.

If someone would teach me how to skin, and tell me what programs to get to do it, I would help. I have the computer resources and the time. Two 1.5 GhZ, 500Mb Ram PC's and four moniters each with thier own graphics card sitting in front of me.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I hate to break it to you kiddies, but regardless of how many threads you start on the same topic, BIS will not add the C-130. First I doubt they'll release any additional unit addons to OF, but even if they do, trust me, the C-130 will not be one of them. Don't ask me how I know, I just do. So good luck finding a decent 3rd party designer because let me tell ya, making a well designed, textured and well handling C-130 into the game is no small task <span id='postcolor'> Did you not get held enough as a child? Do you need a hug? Cuz, dude you are one pessimistic guy. Every thread I look at it seems you post something that cuts someone down, ridicules thier ideas, or you make some snide remark. What's the problem? I thought the whole point of having forums was to make one giant think tank for new ideas. Sure, some are a little outrageous but at least these people are being creative instead of having a defeatist attitude. You need to cease fire. As for the rest of us trying to push this issue, we need not heed such rhetoric. FIDO (Fuck It Drive On)

I'm an E-4 in the Colorado National Guard 5th Battalion/ 19th Special Forces Group (Airborne) I'm reclassing to be an Intel Analyst while I go to college, then I'm going to try to get tabbed. My previous MOS was 11b (infantry).

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That is just a AH-64 Apache Longbow...the only physical difference is the huge great big millimetric-waveband radar and stinger missiles as standard. <span id='postcolor'> Yes, but the Stingers would give us an AA equipped helo. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Working on a F1 race car <span id='postcolor'> Hehehe cool. Better be fast.

Sweet!!! If I knew how to skin I would help.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think the resistance agains APFFDS rounds is a bit less. (armour-piercing-fin-folding-discarding-sabot?) <span id='postcolor'> Excellent, you've been doing your homework. But, it's only one F. (APFDS) Yes, APFDS (sabot) rounds are more powerful. They are basically a rod of depleted uranium encased in a plastic sabot that is dicarded after the round leaves the barrel. Rod length to diameter ratio generally determines the effectiveness of the round. The greater the differential the more effective up to the point at which the rod becomes to thin and bends upon contact. Length is also a measure of effectiveness up until the point at which the round becomes too heavy and loses energy on target. HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank) rounds are a conventional munition generally used for killing lighter armor.(like APC's) HE (High Explosive) are mainly anti-personnel. (like a big fragmentation grenade)

Personally, I prefer dropping LGB's on the LST. Or lazing it and watching it get bombed from the shore.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The M240 is very similar to an M60 with only a few alterations. It's originally meant as a vehicle mounted weapon<span id='postcolor'> B.S. I know both weapons inside out, the actions are nowhere near similar in design. Also, I know about all of the configurations for the M240 series I am in the f%&*ing army after all.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Those pictures aren't anything we haven't experienced ourselves. <span id='postcolor'> AdvocateXXX, you never really have anything nice to say to anyone. Quit being so sanctimonious.

Despite the fact that we disagree, I would like to thank you for a least being open minded and mature about it. Some of your points do make sense, but mostly in very extreme situation. Plus it depends on your shooting skills. Chances are if it were me he would be on the ground before he got his gun out of whereever he is keeping it. If there is someone behind me, well I guess I'm screwed. Muggers generally tend to be desperate people who lack the smarts to figure out how to commit white collar crimes. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Or the other guy in the bush behind you, draws his MP5 and mows you down? <span id='postcolor'>There are different kinds of criminals, and I don't think that you have the right to shoot somebody, just because he wants your money. That's alot of effort for the $20 dollars in cash that I carry. I prefer plastic it's safer. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are different kinds of criminals, and I don't think that you have the right to shoot somebody, just because he wants your money.<span id='postcolor'> I'ts not the fact that he wants my money, it's the fact that he is threatening my well being to get it. In 1999 statistics for armed felons killed while committing a violent crime in the U.S.: 75% were killed by civilians with legally concealed weapons,all ruled self defense (in the U.S. protecting others from harm also falls under self defense.) Now that's crime prevention.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> A) Give him your money B) Take out the pistol and make the situation extremely dangerous I think that A) is good, especially if you don't have much money. But this is more philosophic question then.. Personally, I would C) kick the bully's ass <span id='postcolor'> You must really be a bad ass to opt for C). I have seven years of martial arts, arrest control certified, Army combatives certified, and still would opt to shoot him first. I learned something called the 1+1 principle. If someone uses a certain level of force on you, you then step up your level if possible. A is foolish because many people who cooperate when they get mugged get stabbed or shot anyway. In the U.S. pulling a knife is considered a deadly force assault. The police will shoot you on the spot. As a citizen you have the right to defend yourself so shooting someone would be warranted. So how can "B" make things worse. Oh no!!! You might kill or injure the criminal scum. Consider the alternative, you are broke, dead, or hurt. I must be tolerant of European thinking though, our political left wing. is more conservative than your political right wing. I hope you respect my views because I am experienced in the field.

Thanks Wobble for the plans. This will be our summer project. We'll take it out to the Pawnee National Grasslands here in Colorado where there is no one for about 60 miles. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote  My roomate and I build a pretty good potato cannon Oh man, get a life. <span id='postcolor'> I resent that. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Finland has a quite similar system, and I think it's good. In bigger cities it's almost impossible to get a gun license.<span id='postcolor'> Fascist crap. It's starting to infect our country. All most impossible to get a concealed carry in a U.S. city. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wonder if she thinks the same way as USSoldier11b "True happeness is a belt fed weapon."  <span id='postcolor'> LOL! I don't really want to get into a gun control flame, but what good do making all these laws do? Then the only people who will have guns will be the criminals. All happy and good over there, but here we have a little problem with Constitutional law. See, the founders made sure that the people of the United States had a right to protect themselves. (See 2nd Amendment on the Bill of Rights, U.S. Constitution) So feel good happy Liberal gun legislation kinda tampers with the basic rights of Americans. Thank You </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is a good system I think. It reduces the access to weapons to serious people. Which in turn equals less guns for the criminals.<span id='postcolor'> What about the black market? So yes, as a responsible, voting U.S. citizen I am a little chapped by the rhetoric.

Two. I missed by three points the first time.